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cjc

cjc

I've been reading (or rereading) a few riding technique books while it is too shitty out to ride. Just got Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch but haven't cracked it yet. Am mostly through Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough. Some elementary safety ideas, but worth reading IMO as I tend to forget safe riding strategies and push too hard. From prior years I've enjoyed Keith Code's books (especially Twist volume II), but didn't find much meat in Lee Parks' Total Control. And, IMO, the Motorcycle Safety Foundation materials are stunningly boring. Sad but none of these books has enough pictures of naked ladies for my tastes.

Anyone else doing any reading, boring or otherwise?
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lobster

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I've read, or tried to read the Twist of the Wrist books and think that Twist of the Wrist II is the best choice. I've read Proficient Motorcycling and the Lee Parks book as well. I agree with your assessment that Proficient Motorcycling covers the basics and is a decent book to read, especially as a reminder for those of us that maybe haven't ridden all winter.

I honestly prefer Sport Riding Techniques over the other books though. If I had to recommend one book it would be this one.
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I've just finished readin the Millenium Trilogy. Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets Nest, excellent gripping read, plus you learn alot about Sweden! The film The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is very good too, one of the best films i've seen this year.
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12th planet -zacharia sitchin
supernature - lyall watson , reading now pretty good
fingerprints of the gods - richard hancock
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A break through in human Genome project. News released that there is evidence that there are two beings on earth with almost, I say almost the exact gene structure. In deep study it is found that the difference is enough that one being is considered different than another. News travels fast through the world that there are actually two different human looking creatures but one is not really a human it is a likeness to “Human” For the sake of distinction one is called a Human and the other a Person. This is in regards that they personify a human but are not actually one. News is met with little fanfare and most think that it is just splitting hairs. There is many a convention on the scientific understanding of this situation and much is postulated. Scientists study this, phenomena, throughout the world and are surprised at some of the findings. It does not appear that there is a region that is more or less affected by the difference and the mating between species has not created any hypothesis as to how the out come can be determined with regularity as to what species the offspring will turn out to be between two unlike mating. In other words two humans will create a human and two persons will offspring a person. But a human and a person have as likely a chance of producing either. Even from one child to another and even stranger, twins can be born, one person, one human. There are Darwinian theories that the evolutionary process is tweaking the human and that they are seeing a mutant strain in the genetic make up of man trying to evolve into something else. For the sake of argument the scientist state that the original form was the Human. Though this is just conjecture with no proof what so ever. They just need to start with the chicken or the egg. Well all is going slow until the church and some God fearing zealots decide to read biblical interpretations into the findings. The persons are quickly becoming Satan’s children and the Humans, Gods chosen children. It is becoming clear that whatever you are you are not the ones that are to remain on the planet. As the world starts getting confused as to whether or not they are human or person, scientists develop an over the counter blood tester that will answer the very important question. The extremes tout that it is of the utmost importance that the society knows what you are and private and public awareness becomes the motus operundy. Databases are formed and right wing organizations fuel the fires with lists of possible non human beings that are eliminated from fraternizing with their groups. By pure happenstance families that were of one gene pool have same offspring and families that are tested to have persons in their households are suddenly shunned. And removed. An organization is formed that is anti disclosure and state their ideals that if the beings are not informed as to their gene status they are much more likely to treat others the way they were treated before. There is a coalition of beings formed called the IIB and they espouse the ideal that Ignorance is bliss. They have a huge following and there are many members that get tested privately and many that refuse to want to know their personal affiliation to either gene pool. If it released that you have divulged your gene pool then you are invited to leave. People that were purebreds attack the IIB with information that the member that is their offspring is a particular Gene type and more huge databases are formed to track down every last purebred. Spies try to infiltrate each other’s camps to get information on the others goings on. Governments create the need for immediate recognition of what type of creature you are. Each side claiming that they are the chosen children that will inherit the world. In the mean time the IIB is persecuted from both sides and the only way for them to survive is through trickery by playing both sides and the help from the individuals that are sympathetic to their plight. Many a purebred cheats their way into the IIB through an “ underground organization put together by the leaders of the IIB. Many offspring from purebred families find that they some how are not sprung from the mom and pop. The milkman children. Wars break out and the total inhalation of the other is the only recourse. This leads the IIB in a peculiar position as the offspring from non-tested can lead to who knows what? Many an IIB abandons hope and tests themselves and leaves to their rightful place. They must choose sides out of fear that in the end the winning gene pool force a test on the IIB crowd and it is better to fight for a side and maybe come out on top then wait for the possible bad outcome that will surely end your life anyway. Many other tests by prominent genealogists are being conducted to try and see if there is a possible solution to this horendous situation. There is a test being conducted that shows a peculiar circumstance that keeps popping up in test with children that came from purebred parents. It is found that the milkman children seem to be able to change their genome make up almost at will. After much testing they found that if the fear that the gene pool of another is tested that reveals that they are not one with the milkman child the child who knows what the gene pool of the one being tested becomes the gene that the child posses. This is referred to as the sympathy gene. For the child sympathizes with the other being tested and can actually change the gene strand to match the sympathetic being. The IIB in the mean time has changed its stance on testing and is making testing mandatory. This is an outrageous proposition to many that have given their community the freedom that could only come from being undeclared. Meanwhile the wars have devastated the planet and the purebreds have all but destroyed each other. The ones that cannot bear the idea that they could take another life move to the IIB. Still testing goes on and the collective IIB is determined to find away to stop the senseless destruction of life. A new study finds that the milkman children seem to find a way to change the DNA to actually the opposite of the ones that they choose to mate with in an attempt to not predict the out come of the offspring. The offspring are there fore neither human nor person if the two that formed the child were milkman children. This is caused from the fact that the one mate changes their DNA to opposite of the other while the other mate does so also in a secret way to keep the offspring from being decided. This sympathetic gene is tricked into not being able to make a determination as to what the outcome from one try to another will be. A sort of Human Person is formed. As this unfolds more testing is done on the IIB group and a shift from one side to the other is prevailing throughout the community. Much discussion about the ability to change from one to the other determines that the only clear cut hypothesis is that every original test shows that if a person thought that the advantage was in the favor to them to be a human then human they became and if the advantage was determined to be a person then a person they became. The ones that showed a different result were the ones that determined that the advantage to another being was what determined the test result or what later became known as the sympathetic gene response When all was said an done the end was that Humans and persons were completely removed from a gene pool that did not have the sympathetic gene. These new beings were called humane persons. For they personified humane beings.
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Klincky:
I did not read Mr Dawkins book, The God Delusion. I watched the short video expose on his hypothesis. 45 minutes. It is not hard to come to the conclusion that his belief is that God worship and belief is rampant in the delusional mind. No one ,with half the brain function of his, should be able to come to the same conclusion. He is wondering wy people are so jacked up. Part of the theory he espouses is a poor upbringing and a brainwashing set out at an early age. If it is your belief that there is no god, it would stand to reason that your children will pick up on the belief, since they are in an environment that states that claim. The other side of the coin seems to be where he would like to see things change. A more perfect world would be left of such delusional thinkers and we could go forth and conquer more scientific endeavors. His first concern is that science is getting less than the full attention from a community, while the comunity is busy trying to figure out whos god is more bad ass. My statements were related to the evolution of man. I stated that as man evolves, the destruction of delusional thinking is bound to come forth. It appears that he sees the biggest problems coming from the west. His statement that 45% of all the peoples in the US think that the world is less than 10000 years old. Shows that delusion is running rampant from sea to shining sea. He was ready and willing to have a debate with a preacher in a "House of worship" on the delusional pronouncements such preacher was spewing. If the preacher had of been of clear mind he would have realised the error of his ways and pronounced right there and then, his evil ways. He managed to tie the passing of moneys as further proof that it is a money making venture that drives such delusion mind control. I did not hear him state that the collection of moneys are for altruistic idealls as well as funding science centers for the study of diseases. God institutions raise and fund many AIDS projects throughout the world , his statement that Catholics do not believe in birth control, causing many a poor African to die was all that came from his mouth. I am sure that he is preaching to the choir in the scientific-athiestic community. I can respect his ideas. He needs to get off the soap box and use those killer brain waves for scientific endeavors, leave the delusional lemmings that are so close to the cliff, alone.
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It's a shame Dawkins didn't pioneer use of paragraphs and carriage returns.
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Fatbob, when I said that we weren't special I meant as a species in the context of species that have lived over the ages. As people, yes I'd agree we are all special in our own ways.

It is the arrogance that certain religious institution's belief that we are some how special and set apart from every other life form that I was really referring to. This basically gives us carte blanche to do as we please, which in the long run will probably be our downfall. We've been around for a blink of an eye compared to most species and have a very long way to go before we could be seen as a dominant life form on Earth. I don't think we have a hope in Hell of making it either. Our intelligence has seen us rise to where we are now, I think it will be our downfall.

An interesting way of looking at history

If the history of the universe was condensed into a one year calender, it would look like this:

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Some dates:
January 1
Big Bang

May 1
Origin of Milky Way Galaxy

September 9
Origin of the solar system

September 14
Formation of the Earth

~ September 25
Origin of life on Earth

October 2
Formation of the oldest rocks known on Earth

October 9
Date of oldest fossils (bacteria and blue-green algae)

~ November 1
Invention of sex (by microorganisms)

November 12
Oldest fossil photosynthetic plants

November 15
Eukaryotes (first cells with nuclei) flourish



All of this happened on December 31:
Origin of Proconsul and Ramapithecus, probable ancestors of apes and men
~ 1:30 p.m.

First humans
~ 10:30 p.m.

Widespread use of stone tools
11:00 p.m.

Domestication of fire by Peking man
11:46 p.m.

Beginning of most recent glacial period
11:56 p.m.

Seafarers settle Australia
11:58 p.m.

Extensive cave painting in Europe
11:59 p.m.

Invention of agriculture
11:59:20 p.m.

Neolithic civilization; first cities
11:59:35 p.m.

First dynasties in Sumer, Ebla and Egypt; development of astronomy
11:59:50 p.m.

Invention of the alphabet; Akkadian Empire
11:59:51 p.m.

Hammurabic legal codes in Babylon; Middle Kingdom in Egypt
11:59:52 p.m.

Bronze metallurgy; Mycenaean culture; Trojan War; Olmec culture; invention of the compass
11:59:53 p.m.

Iron metallurgy; First Assyrian Empire; Kingdom of Israel; founding of Carthage by Phoenicia
11:59:54 p.m.

Asokan India; Ch'in Dynasty China; Periclean Athens; birth of Buddha
11:59:55 p.m.

Euclidean geometry; Archimedean physics; Ptolemaic astronomy; Roman Empire; birth of Christ
11:59:56 p.m.

Zero and decimals invented in Indian arithmetic; Rome falls; Birth of Islam and the Islamic Civilization
11:59:57 p.m.

Mayan civilization; Sung Dynasty China; Byzantine empire; Mongol invasion; Crusades
11:59:58 p.m.

Renaissance in Europe; voyages of discovery from Europe and from Ming Dynasty China; emergence of the experimental method in science
11:59:59 p.m.
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I don't see why believing in evolution or God are at opposite ends of the scale.
What was before the Big Bang? Could that not have been God creating not just ours but a multitude of parallel universes where every eventuality across the span of all space in all universes is played out for His curiosity, must be tough being the Supreme being, boredom is not a universally human affliction.
Evolution is fact. All current religions are human interpretations in text of what God wants. This is the arrogance that destroys. This unfaltering belief against all evidence would be regarded as moronic in any other capacity. I have no doubt that these religious historical figures existed in some form or another and that the texts were written after many centuries of being passed verbally from father to son but this is not proof. This is a story. You might as well argue the Greek Gods are real, or the Roman Gods who, let's face it were just the re-named residents of Olympus. Why not worship Poseidon if you're a fisherman with no knowledge of what causes the tides, big storms and the unimaginably weird sea creatures; it was a great way to explain what mankind didn't know or more importantly, understand.
We are however, thanks to science and the enquiring minds God gave us, a much more enlightened bunch now. We know the Earth was not created in six days. We know that almost all creatures on Earth share a common ancestry and are still evolving through the process of natural selection, Neanderthals as a recent Hominid example of 40,000 years ago and two very modern examples, Galapagos Finches....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin%27s_finches and more recently Bacterial Superbugs, bred through our lack of understanding about Antibiotics and over-prescription.
Evolution and God were not separate, mankind has made it so for his own purpose and the extremists righteously claim through superior knowledge that only they will bathe in His light, whichever side they're on, which makes for interesting conflicts.
Whenever I think of the Creator it always makes me smile to think of Him gazing at the Earth in awe of what became of a few amino acids and a pair of Levis and wondering why everyone can't stop second guessing His will and just get along....


I'm reading Earth, Air, Fire and Custard at the mo. (Tom Holt)
My reading list is pretty much like Stupid Luke's: Neil Gaimen, Iain Banks, most of the classics, try Jasper Fforde, Tom Holt, Christopher Brookmyre if you fancy brilliantly funny actiony type fiction. "The last English King" by Julian Rathbone is a great book about King Harold written from the perspective of a Housecarl..

And Gormenghast, if you haven't.....read it. Amazingly descriptive..

Now all this talk of God has taken me back to my schooldays, 7 or 8 years old being read to by Beefy Davies, a giant of a man and ex British Lion who just happened to be our headmaster. Being sent to boarding school at 7 is hard on you as a kid and Beefy was a fantastic Headmaster, very fierce discipline resulted in the slipper, the sandal or the hand but more often than not my memories of him are of his extraordinary kindness and good humour and one of my favourite times apart from the hour of telly per week, (BBC Wildlife on One, then Blankety Blank with Terry Wogan: Still love Terry..lol), was him reading to us, a group of entranced little boys sat on his study floor on Sunday nights. He read a wide range of books and short stories but the only ones I remember are the "Don Camillo" stories and I absolutely loved them....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Camillo
Sooo..why the ramble down memory lane....That's my next set of books. I'm going to try and get the original 1950's translations and I'm really looking forward to re-living them 33 years later...
motoronin

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I did put paragraphs in there, didn't work...
Colonel_Klinck

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I keep promising myself I will read more books again. That's the only problem with the internet, it can suck you in for hours when you could be doing other stuff. At the moment I take New Scientist to bed with me every night and end up falling asleep after a few pages... then next weeks copy is delivered

I'll try and check out a few suggestions for you guys.
DribbleDuke

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Okay, ye drew me in... the skinny,

THE SANGCTUS GERMANUS Phopecies

Michael P. Mau PhD

My daughter gave this to me and I should read it, but as Shade (Conrad) has so pointedly explained in the prior quotes, I am very hard to please or even to give recognition, we shall see.

motoronin, It did work, it is paragraphs.
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To state that the use of anothers emotions to produce a result that the user finds productive is hijacking the emotion, lends itself to a responce that is in itself manimulative of mans emotions. You could show me the imaging of the brains electrical and blood flow stimulus, you could show me data that confirmed that the brain functions, to outside stimuli are simalar throughout the world. You could show how a diabolical plot to control a societies whole frame of refferance is not only possible but the only reason that, that frame of refferance exists. You can tie it to the need for that biological entity to continue through its evolutionary proccess and therefore make it a survival mechanism which was profound in its success. You can postulate that this "idea" or structure is no longer needed due to our understanding of how the brain functions, through the advent of magnetic resonance imaging.

I apload every scientific endeavor that brings an understanding of every and all biological structure from the past and present. I apload the scientific endeavor that brings forth every item that has been revolutionized in the creation of the SuperDuke. I apload the evolution of mans brain function to the point that I can ride the Superduke.

What the scientist have not managed to produce or explain in a fashion that could hijack my brain is where they have and will probably always fall short.
Where does the spirit of their intent lead.

It is the spirit, or sometimes reffered to as, the heart of man, that moves me.
Trust your gut. Matters of the heart, cold hearted bastard, he had a heart of gold, a mothers intuition, he wore his heart on his sleeve, That was a spirited ride out, out of the mouth the heart speaks, I Love You with all my heart and soul, you fill my heart with joy.
My heart is just not into MRI's But if you really want to see the light, check out the magnetic ressonance imaging in the form of Aurora Borealis. Now that will move the spirit.
With all my Heart and Soul, I move my brains intent.
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To be honest Klinck, I'm somewhat suprised you haven't taken up religion, more specifically militant Islam....


man, the thought of those 72 virgins waiting for you must be very tempting!!
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Yes Tulsa

you would need to elaborate further on the local.
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