Rossi you fooking Idiot

Stoner could not have worded it better "obviously your ambition out weighted your talent"
Those Spanish marshalls are a helpful bunch of c%nts too.

Or, on the other hand if Stoner hadnt been going so slow Rossi wouldnt have had to overtake him.

If Stoner was lying under his and Rossi's bike and the marshalls had helped Rossi get away first you and he might have something to bleat about.

Shouldnt have thought Stoner invented the line 'Your ambition outweighed your talent' either I imagine he has heard it said to him on numerous occasions when he has made an unforced error and crashed out.

Either way the big winner was that smug spanish spoilt kid Whoregay.

As Rossi was trapped under a running bike I can see why they went to him first, although the marshals did seem to jack on Stoner.

The whole incident did make me laugh!

I recon Rossi left his helmet on when he went to see Casey in case he did a Biaggi on him and gave him a slap!

TBH Rossi wanted to "stuff him" and he almost got away with it,,,, "THAT'S RACIN " he had plenty of time left to do it later however,,,and as far as "slap fest",, ,do Aussie's do that had thought that Ben would have a step,,,,but,,,,,attrition gave it to Hayden,,,,,all in all I think Casey should get stuffed

It looks as if Monster Energy is just a bit too much punch for a rain race
Rain being the great equalizer gave the Ducati's the chance to move up.
Cooler heads prevailed
If there was a moment that helped me feel vindicated for getting up at five in the morning, it was seeing Semincelli crash out of first place.
Racing will allways have contriversy but the marshalls could and should have helped both racers back to racing
Two Texans trying too hard and a Englishman who should know how to travel tenderly in the wet tragicly trips up.

Of the two bikes the Honda was less likely to have been damaged as it surfed along on top of the Ducati. If Stoner had done a bit less gesturing and whinging he could have got himself back in the race, even without the marshalls help. Rossi finished up in 5th and scored useful points so it is fair to assume Stoner would have been either in front or behind Rossi, assuming he managed to finish of course.

Perhaps he would rather have the excuse to get off a slippery track and someone / everyone else to blame than another 22 laps of wet tarmac?

Stoner's bike had stalled, Rossi's was still running.

I hope that clears things up.

BTW, given the minimal amount of damage suffered by the Ducati I'm removing my R&G bungs now.

The way forward is to have a Gangly Italian Homo strapped to each side.

If that's true Luke I retract my previous !!

stoner is a whinging little fook at the best of times. dont think i've ever heard him admit to being at fault at anytime.

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hope the linky workee

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ahhh fuggggit!!!

nope it don't work

It's a crazy, crazy world of advanced nuthuggery when Casey gets nurfed off and yet everyone still wants to have a go at the lad.

You'd think being a world champion and constantly one of the fastest riders in the world would be enough.

I guess he sleeps better knowing that while his army of internerd haters are jacking off over Rossi pictures he's banging his cute wife.

Don't get me wrong though, I'd have loved to see Rossi work his way to the front today for his first Ducati win, would have been great viewing.

Watchout here comes Rossi!!!
It was'nt enough to freak Casey out when he would look at his board and see the gap narrowing, causing the front end of his Ducati to suddenly act peculiar. He gets a whole new manufacturer and the gap is eliminated anyway, in the form of a known antagonizer. There may be many more races that a wet track may come into place. This will surely delight Rossi as the Ducati stands no chance against the Honda's at this juncture. Casey's biggest mistake was trying to settle the speeds down a bit and not staying in front. He is a little of a head case and Rossi can enter anyone's head at will. We may never know the full extent of this incidant, but we can bet that Casey learned a valuable lesson today. He is a great smart rider that seems to be his own downfall. The confidance that the Honda will give him this year will erase the Desmo disasters.
Clearly, Luke does not like Stoner and nothing he saus or does will ever swerve him away from the bitter taste he has in his mouth in regards to that. I too will never warm to Semincelli from his antics in the 250 days.
I will give him his due in that he rode that San Carlo Honda smoother than I have ever seen him ride.
I think that Spies had the Stoner head when he thought that he needed a pace that he did not need and put the Yamaha into the gravel. Spies wants to get on the 1000 cc bikes and will just hang out at the near top till next year and then watch out. He will be a force to be recond with.
I think that the nature of derooting for whom you dislike instead of who you like is stronger in the premier class of racing and brings out all the positive negative in fans.

I didn't expect Casey to suffer due to Ducati front end wash outs this year!

To be fair, Rossi could have been on anything and he'd still have fallen off - he came from another postcode to make that pass.

Rossi was on a massive charge when the incident happened. He was the fastest man on track and was carving through the field. Considering everyone from 5th back binned it today and most were front end tucks coming into corners, I don't see that it's much more than a racing indecent. Stoner did nothing wrong but these things happen in racing.
The marshals did seem to favour Rossi however when it came to getting then going again. He did however have 2 bikes on him when they came to a halt.
Semincelli was fantastic today all the way up until he lost the rear as well. Thought he'd saved the front but then it all went wrong behind. Great riding up to that point though. I enjoyed seeing some wet weather racing for a change.

I don't think going to 1000cc either helps or hinders Spies.

Seeing as no one else has said it - well done Dani

Rossi does desperate moves all the time, just that this one didnt work out for him, well it did as it took out one of him main rivals, it was an ameture pass, who needs to win eh race on the 4th lap? He would of crashed anyway, its just that he did it infront of casey and tok him out. Stoner was smart turning the engine of considering they only 6 for the season.

A personal risk fine... But not someone elses. If it happened the other way round I would be slagging stoner. There is a big difference between an accident and stupid pass.

If someone did that to me on the track I would have left the engine running to munch his hand up... Or beat the crap out of them with my now useless helmet as would most of you

So pull your heads in for slagging stoner you retards. As I said before, if it happened vice versa I would be backing Rossi completely

Not sure anyone is slagging Stoner off.. well Luke is obviously but that's just par for the course
Agree on the trackday comment but this isn't a trackday its a full on race. If the front hadn't slipped away it would have been a great pass. However it didn't today and Stoner came off a lot worse. A real shame though as the race was looking like being a classic till they all fell off

I don`t know were everyone is getting this "Stoner is a windger" from, he has conceded that the Rossi thing was a race incident (a stupid one at that) and had a go at the dickhead marshals that flocked to help Rossi (whos bike was running) and stood by until Stoner shouted for help to restart.
Simmochelli made the same compliant but no one is saying he is windging.

It's not often Rossi makes mistakes and lets face it without people like him and Simoncelli Moto gp would be a lot more boring.

Every year there is usualy one race that is awsome and lets face it, Rossi is normaly part of the scrap.

I think some of the lads on here need to sell their dangerous motorcycles and take up something a bit safer like cross stitch LOL!

Remember the 1993 British GP when Mick Doohan skittled Alex Barros and Kevin Schwantz by leaving his braking to late on the first lap. It was just a racing incident. I never thought the legendary Mick Doohan should ride safer as it was a one off incident.

In this politically correct world with all the worsening health and safety we have it's good to have something a little bit dangerous.
Last year Wayne Gardner said the Isle of Man TT should be banned as it's to dangerous (smart bloke).
It sounds like some of you would ban overtaking on bends!

Forget Rossi and Stoner! Did anyone see Moto2 and Kallio's speedway style save in turn 2!?

I think the whole apoligy thing was bullshit, just a show for the media, what was Stoner going to do when you have the whole thing on camera. Stoners crew knew Rossi was going to show and they would have advised him to keep it cool.
If Rossi was fair dinkum he would have approached Stoner alone away from the show without his helmet on, that is why he is a pussy

I had money on Stoner although the way the race was going he would have been lucky to make the top 5 anyway, this is made worse by the fact that when i put the bet on i thought it was for the 1st race in Qatar which he pissed.

the ambition/ability comment was bit of a silly statement as it could be said of any accident..... and many an accident stoner had on the duke last year. if this is a bad example of stoner being a whinger then there is an endless list of other examples. i admire the guys ability on a bike just wish he'd stop being such a child, ie, blame other rider/bike/team when things dont go his way. last year when he qualified back the grid he felt that the boys at the back of the grid we're a bit tough on him into the first corner.... this sort of shit does he's image no favours.

OK a few things here that I have to say:

I think Stoner has whined in the past no doubt, but I personally feel that he handled this situation pretty darn well. Trying to blame him for any of this is ridiculous. (If the same thing happened to me I would have kicked the Shit out of Rossi. Not because I dislike him or anything simply because i would be pissed.)

I am a Rossi fan from way back, but that doesn't preclude me from saying that he made a serious BONEHEAD move on Sunday. This doesn't mean he was "Unsafe" or "Riding Crazy" or anyhting like that, his bonehead move was pushing too hard when he really didn't need to. He was undeniably the fastest guy on the track and he had 20+ laps left to get it done. STUPID move.. But it truly was just a racing incident. No more no less. He also apologized for it afterward and all you Rossi haters wouldn't be satisfied with any apology whether the cameras were on him or not. If yes he is a media hound.. If in private he doesn't have the balls to say so in public. So give it a rest.

As for some of the statements about he was "unsafe" what a bunch of crap. I am the biggest proponent of safety in the world but the facts are that you have to ride on the edge to win 9 World Titles. You don't earn those titles sitting back waiting for a sunny day. And just to make things a bit more clear, Rossi's move, although not the smartest thing in the world, was NOT the same as Pedrosa's ill fated dive bomb on Nicky Hayden a few years back. THAT was unsafe and downright asinine.. This on the other hand was really hard racing... Please try to look at the situation and forget your biases before posting...

So to sum it up.
Rossi effed up. Yep really effed up. (And so did Simoncelli, Spies, Edwards, Depuniet, and Divisiozo...)
Stoner was an innocent by-stander.. Yep and if ANYONE had the RIGHT to bitch it would be Stoner. But he really didn't so kudos to him..

So how about everyone just enjoy the fact that these guys push hard enough to win and to continuously entertain us on a weekly basis and give them all a bit of a break?

Grendel is a little confused about the duties of track marshals. Are they there to ensure safety, clear crashes, work with emergency people, signal riders with flags, look for debris, or are they a motorcycle starting service? Grendel would not like to start these high compression bikes by push starting them, but expecting the track marshals to do so seems odd.

Clearly if you go down this route, they should not touch any rider's bike to start it, italian or australian.

Had anyone considered that the track marshals might not been thinking of giving the advantage to Rossi so much as disadvantaging Stoner soas to favor the local boy Pedrosa...? If they did then it worked.

1st off I'd like to say that although you've got people on here with very different opinions there's some really good comments unlike the mad raving you get on places like 'Crash'.

I've got to say that for me although I was disappointed to see both Rossi and Stoner crash you can't say that the race got boring!
As for the apology and the actions of both riders; I think they handled it very well and what's wrong with a bit of needle anyway?

One little observation though: when a GP bike crashes the engine is supposed to automatically cut out (its in the rules) but many bikes don't and Ducatis never do (even is WSBK) ; clearly the Hondas do.

Rossi and Ducati now have a month to fix his shoulder and make the bike more ridable for him. Personally I can't wait: I think we might have a really competitive championship on our hands.

I could be very wrong about this (or out of date) but its my understanding that all GP bikes and WSBK/WSS bikes are supposed to have a cut off switch in the event of a crash. The exact wording escapes me but its something to do with in the event of a crash and the rider becoming separated from the bike etc.
Of course you could argue that Rossi at no time was separated from his bike!
It is notoriously difficult to police and I understand that, although the rule exists it is not enforced in WSBK because Ducati twins can't be bump started.

The best video of the weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSzQ2DHzGaM

And this weeks prize for keeping a clutch lever pulled in above and beyond the call of duty goes to....

Toby Moody just retweeted this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNe6VzhNo0

Seems to show Casey getting more help than we thought and Rossi less than we thought.

That is indeed a different angle on things. I can't see Honda can have any complaints about not getting enough marshal help looking at that clip.

Since when has it been in the Marshals job description that they must help riders?

They arnt contracted to it, they do it cuz there race fans! How many marshalls have been maimed or killed because thevye been stood on track for gods sake!!!!

The Aussies will now say those marshalls werent running fast enough or they were all holding Casey back.

They were doing so because every spaniard loves Rossi err except for everyone at Jerez the year he duffed Sete up at the final corner.

Or maybe they were planning to hold onto Stoner until Lorenzo had won because they wanted whoregay make a twat of himself again doing a victory celebration and nearly drowning?

Or maybe the spanish marshalls didnt want Repsol, a spanish petrochemical company to win?

Stoner is just a whinge waiting to happen. I bet anything he got bullied at school, probably by the very same aussies that think the sun shines out of his lactose intolerant colon now. He is just the sort of snide, scrawny, buck toothed, spotty, snot nose that even the teachers secretly want to give a wedgie to.

If he wasnt a motorcycle racer he would still be getting bullied now by all his colleagues at MacDonalds and Adrianna wouldnt look twice at him, even if he had 3 stars and free chicken nuggets.

I want marshals to restart bikes that are still functioning and safe for track reentrance.
Corner workers are under the control of the marshals and a yellow flag at the place of danger should be waving anyway so I hope this does not mean that engine cut off switches will be ignored due to lazy
track workers. Stoner should have stepped on Rossi's head, he wasnt using it anyway.

the circumstances had more to do with it than anything deliberate by the marshals, but be honest, if you were in stoners position you would be well pissed off too!
yeah they tried to get him going, his bike had obviously stopped running, rossi' ducati was still running and a quick push got him on his way, to fifth no less! while stoner couldn't get his to fire. rossi at fault yet they helped him get back in the race first, maybe rossi tosses more memorabilia the marshals way than stoner.........

This is Rossi`s official take on the whole incident.

In da beginginga, i makea
very gooda starta
So i push an push an pusha
My speed isa very good and ima very appy
Then when i stick it upa Stoner, fungulo,
Da bastardo Ducarti front end, ita slide,
Isa a shittaboxer, ciao.


Not my words but thought it was worth posting