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Cornering...Left or right. Good side bad side?
17 posts · Started by Gillberg · 08 Jun 2008
Post 2 by cjc,
#2I am exactly the same way. I've been told - speculation really - that it is because I am less relaxed when turning right as going wide can have bigger consequences (i.e. into traffic), but I think you guys ride on the opposite side of the road from us so that explanation seems weak. I've hurt my right shoulder several times in sports so I'm stiff on that side.
Any theory about why you have trouble? Do you feel equally planted with pivot points on both sides? I often feel like I'm not as attached to the bike when off the right side and that makes me grip harder which makes me fight the steering.
Hope some of that helps.
Any theory about why you have trouble? Do you feel equally planted with pivot points on both sides? I often feel like I'm not as attached to the bike when off the right side and that makes me grip harder which makes me fight the steering.
Hope some of that helps.
Post 3 by cjc,
#3many philosophies on this topic, any whare from the drive chain to the hand you use primarily, We all seem to be at ease more on one type than another.
I have spoken to experts on this subject, Hatha yoga (Sanskrit हठयोग hʌʈʰʌjo:gÊŒ), also called Hatha Vidya (हठविदà¥
I have spoken to experts on this subject, Hatha yoga (Sanskrit हठयोग hʌʈʰʌjo:gÊŒ), also called Hatha Vidya (हठविदà¥
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Post 8 by lobster,
#8Varies. On the SD i'm happy either direction.
On the last 05 R1, i was happier on right handers for a long time, but near the end preferred left handers.
On the last 05 R1, i was happier on right handers for a long time, but near the end preferred left handers.
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Post 13 by Chris,
#13Try This -
Left or Right?
This month's article from California Superbike School looks at how a fear induced Survival Reaction may be hampering your riding.
It seems that every rider on the planet has a good side and a not so good side when cornering. Some of us prefer rights, others lefts. We often get asked at the seminars and CSS courses - what is the ‘cure’ for one side or the other?
The reasons for having one side better than the other isn’t because you are left or right-handed. It isn’t because one side of your brain is bigger than the other. It’s because at some point in your riding you had an incident that, at a sub conscious level, has given you a fear induced Survival Reaction to that side. Maybe you had a crash on that side; maybe it was on your pushbike when you were seven years old. Maybe you had a bad experience trying to turn one way when you were learning to ride. The incidents that could create this reaction are numerous and far reaching.
Andy Ibbott [email protected]
The results of your ‘fear’ of one side or the other can create a couple of tangible results:
We try and keep our body and head more upright on the weaker side than on the strong side. This in effect makes us a bad passenger on the bike and the bike reacts to this. Liken it if you will to the difference between the good and bad pillion rider. One goes with the bike, the other tries to stay upright.
We don’t steer as well on the weaker side. We steer slower on our weaker side giving us a different arc through the turn than we would like and therefore not getting to the place we would like to be at the apex or exit of the turn.
Thankfully we can do something about this as we understand the Survival Reactions associated with a weaker side. You are either not at one (going with) the bike in the first case or not steering the bike because of stiff arms in the second.
The Cures: First you need to identify which of or both of the problems you have with your weaker side.
Solution 1. Relax your inside arm. Get some bend into that inside arm so that, in turn, it will bring your upper body forward and in line with the bike.
Solution 2. To steer the bike well on both sides you need to be pushing through the bars not down on the bars. This means you need to get your arms parallel to the ground when you steer. This is the most efficient way of getting the bike to turn. Make sure your arms are in the same position for left AND right turns.
Left or Right?
This month's article from California Superbike School looks at how a fear induced Survival Reaction may be hampering your riding.
It seems that every rider on the planet has a good side and a not so good side when cornering. Some of us prefer rights, others lefts. We often get asked at the seminars and CSS courses - what is the ‘cure’ for one side or the other?
The reasons for having one side better than the other isn’t because you are left or right-handed. It isn’t because one side of your brain is bigger than the other. It’s because at some point in your riding you had an incident that, at a sub conscious level, has given you a fear induced Survival Reaction to that side. Maybe you had a crash on that side; maybe it was on your pushbike when you were seven years old. Maybe you had a bad experience trying to turn one way when you were learning to ride. The incidents that could create this reaction are numerous and far reaching.
Andy Ibbott [email protected]
The results of your ‘fear’ of one side or the other can create a couple of tangible results:
We try and keep our body and head more upright on the weaker side than on the strong side. This in effect makes us a bad passenger on the bike and the bike reacts to this. Liken it if you will to the difference between the good and bad pillion rider. One goes with the bike, the other tries to stay upright.
We don’t steer as well on the weaker side. We steer slower on our weaker side giving us a different arc through the turn than we would like and therefore not getting to the place we would like to be at the apex or exit of the turn.
Thankfully we can do something about this as we understand the Survival Reactions associated with a weaker side. You are either not at one (going with) the bike in the first case or not steering the bike because of stiff arms in the second.
The Cures: First you need to identify which of or both of the problems you have with your weaker side.
Solution 1. Relax your inside arm. Get some bend into that inside arm so that, in turn, it will bring your upper body forward and in line with the bike.
Solution 2. To steer the bike well on both sides you need to be pushing through the bars not down on the bars. This means you need to get your arms parallel to the ground when you steer. This is the most efficient way of getting the bike to turn. Make sure your arms are in the same position for left AND right turns.
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Post 15 by Gillberg,
#15superdude, very good point I skate too, have since 8 yo, have not done any snow boarding ..I need to fore it's too late?...twisted jester is cool..
joe has even wondered if the pull of the earth or cosmic wind has something goin here? is it a power that influences us from in side us and/or outside of us?..
the earth is spinning and so are our wheels and engines, all of these materials are spinning round and round, even our blood is spinning, thare are so many
things doing the same thing it is only natural to have a polar or magnetic side of your self, but a strong immeasurable small force.
(other than our ability to use more tyre from one side of the bike to the other),or just not reaching thare limits.
I just love the new close up camera shot of casey stoners tyre being scrubbed like gooy fish scales as he leaned to the max! Loved the camera shot.
joe has even wondered if the pull of the earth or cosmic wind has something goin here? is it a power that influences us from in side us and/or outside of us?..
the earth is spinning and so are our wheels and engines, all of these materials are spinning round and round, even our blood is spinning, thare are so many
things doing the same thing it is only natural to have a polar or magnetic side of your self, but a strong immeasurable small force.
(other than our ability to use more tyre from one side of the bike to the other),or just not reaching thare limits.
I just love the new close up camera shot of casey stoners tyre being scrubbed like gooy fish scales as he leaned to the max! Loved the camera shot.
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