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Ducati Streetfighter revealed
78 posts · Started by Millar · 04 Nov 2008
Post 2 by Millar,
#2Not sure about the headlight and mirrors...I think I know where they got their inspiration
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Post 4 by fredrik,
#4it looks a lot better in this video:
Post 5 by Twisted Jester,
#5It does look better in that video but I'm still not convinced.
Looking forward to the details of the RC8R from Milan though.
Looking forward to the details of the RC8R from Milan though.
Post 6 by fredrik,
#6how about this video, this convinced me, love it!
Post 7 by topendz,
#7The jury is still out for me too. It's growing on me though and the spec is impressive. There is no one touching Ducati right now. Looking forward to news on the RC8R too.
I'm also loving the 1198 in white, wish it had the traction control though. The S model I don't like the wheels as much as the standard 1198 10 spoke.
I'm also loving the 1198 in white, wish it had the traction control though. The S model I don't like the wheels as much as the standard 1198 10 spoke.
Post 8 by frankpgh,
#8Judging from the general shape of the headlamp area, the tail and the chin cowl I can't help but think it's inspired by the SuperDuke.
As with most Ducati models I'll wager the gas tank is undersized and the "racing" dry clutch is far too noisy for a modern street bike.
There that's my 2 cents.
Frank
As with most Ducati models I'll wager the gas tank is undersized and the "racing" dry clutch is far too noisy for a modern street bike.
There that's my 2 cents.
Frank
Post 9 by fredrik,
#9I just paid the deposit for one of these, can't wait
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Post 14 by superDUKE220,
#14This looks quite different from the ones on streetfighter.ducati.com
reminds me a lot of the mv brutale:
reminds me a lot of the mv brutale:
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Post 21 by topendz,
#21why does the rake look so chopperish, this is starting to look like a naked sportbike but the front-ends seem to have too much rake... am I getting old?...
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Post 28 by Captain Pugwash,
#28I wonder were they got some inspiration from? hmm?
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Post 31 by Pig Benis,
#31You've got to compare the S model to the SD or SDR, because both KTMs come with WP suspension, and the S model has the nice Ohlins bits. The "base" Streetfighter has marginal suspension, which is nothing like WP.
Many people don't realise that WP is one of the top 3 suspension makers - period.
Many people don't realise that WP is one of the top 3 suspension makers - period.
Post 32 by Pig Benis,
#32err...... many does not live here fella......
not one (1) small... aka... (white Power) me likey.
not one (1) small... aka... (white Power) me likey.
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Post 36 by Stupid Luke,
#36What a shame
I think the 1098 is easily the best looking bike on the road. This could has been equally as good with very little effort.
Hate those exhausts. Frame is too busy. Everything else looks like Halfords stuck on bling.
But, if it goes better than the SD with a similar riding position I will buy one in an instant.
Bikes are for riding not looking at. It took me a while to get into the SD. I used to think a streetfightered 2003 R1 would be the ultimate.
I am still tempted to buy a 1098s and try to do better myself though
I think the 1098 is easily the best looking bike on the road. This could has been equally as good with very little effort.
Hate those exhausts. Frame is too busy. Everything else looks like Halfords stuck on bling.
But, if it goes better than the SD with a similar riding position I will buy one in an instant.
Bikes are for riding not looking at. It took me a while to get into the SD. I used to think a streetfightered 2003 R1 would be the ultimate.
I am still tempted to buy a 1098s and try to do better myself though
Post 37 by fredrik,
#37sorry its crap its a ducati !!!!!!
Post 38 by topendz,
#38I agree that it looks a bit weird in a few of the photos while it looks great in others. But I don't care. I certainly didn't buy the SD for it's looks, think they are ok but nothing amazing.
Anyway, I'll trade looks for better handling and more power any day (not that they need to be mutually exclusive). My first experience of a proper motorcycle was driving my friends Kawa 250KX when I was 15. My own "bike" at the time was a tired Yamaha DT50 moped (1hp) and I'll never forget the happiness I got from riding the KX -such an adrenaline rush, made my knees shake and put the biggest grin on my face for a long time afterwards.
When I first drove a 1098 my knees did shake a little coming of the bike and it reminded me of that day with the KX (not as big of a rush though, -unfortunately I doubt I'll ever get back to the same level of excitement I got from the KX 16 years ago).
The 1098 engine is far superior to any other bike I've driven, the gearbox is near perfect and the sound with termis rocks! So if the Streetfighter is that but in a form that I can use around town then I couldn't care less what it looks like.
Anyway, I'll trade looks for better handling and more power any day (not that they need to be mutually exclusive). My first experience of a proper motorcycle was driving my friends Kawa 250KX when I was 15. My own "bike" at the time was a tired Yamaha DT50 moped (1hp) and I'll never forget the happiness I got from riding the KX -such an adrenaline rush, made my knees shake and put the biggest grin on my face for a long time afterwards.
When I first drove a 1098 my knees did shake a little coming of the bike and it reminded me of that day with the KX (not as big of a rush though, -unfortunately I doubt I'll ever get back to the same level of excitement I got from the KX 16 years ago).
The 1098 engine is far superior to any other bike I've driven, the gearbox is near perfect and the sound with termis rocks! So if the Streetfighter is that but in a form that I can use around town then I couldn't care less what it looks like.
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Post 44 by topendz,
#44This bike will be my 5th Ducati, I will be putting down a deposit as soon as I can, and probably make my Super Duke into my track bike.
I rode a 1098s on Saturday. Absolutely ferocious. Explosive power, yet the bike was so controlled and precise, it was amazing.
The Streetfighter has almost the same motor in it, but with a more comfortable package. Can't wait!
I rode a 1098s on Saturday. Absolutely ferocious. Explosive power, yet the bike was so controlled and precise, it was amazing.
The Streetfighter has almost the same motor in it, but with a more comfortable package. Can't wait!
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Post 46 by Twisted Jester,
#46I think it looks OK, and I'm sure the power will be good, but as stated before the seat is tipped too far forwards, so you will end sitting on yer nuts [boys only] and my other concern from looking at the pictures is the raked out fork angle, it looks like it will turn about a fast as a bus..
Post 47 by fredrik,
#47streetfighters do have tipped forward seats. i dunno why.
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Post 55 by topendz,
#55Joe sorry mate I didn't know there was moderator etiquette
By the way I know what it means mate us British invented etiquette
I see nothing in my post to get your knickers in a twist about. Rolling eye normally indicates someone thinks whatever is silly, frustrating, annoying or not true, so I was just calling you out on it and wondered what you mean, it's my time of the month, no one said I signed up to take crap. I call it how it is sir.
By the way I know what it means mate us British invented etiquette
I see nothing in my post to get your knickers in a twist about. Rolling eye normally indicates someone thinks whatever is silly, frustrating, annoying or not true, so I was just calling you out on it and wondered what you mean, it's my time of the month, no one said I signed up to take crap. I call it how it is sir.
Post 56 by topendz,
#56joe was not trying to give you any crap KIND SIR, Please accept my most humble apology.
(to look up is only to wonder, Not what a girl does when perturbed). after all we are men here.
(to look up is only to wonder, Not what a girl does when perturbed). after all we are men here.
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Post 69 by Ducati Pete,
#69shoddy handling? no, of course not.
Point i'm making is that the superdukes' strength is its fun factor and cornering ability relative to the type of machine it is.
As the other fella said some will love it on looks alone and for the average rider it will be of little relavence.
I'm coming at this from a performance orientated point of view. I can ride at a respectible pace and appreciate bikes at the more focussed end of the spectrum.
But going back to the average rider point of view, engine, chassis and how the package gels is just something to talk about at the pub. objectively assessing different qualities of different bikes is not within the grasp of your average rider.
As for ducati making awesome machines.....no arguement on that one.
They are however, much more difficult to ride at anything approaching 8 or 9 tenths and as a result less enjoyable and ultimately slower in all but the most talented hands.
Point i'm making is that the superdukes' strength is its fun factor and cornering ability relative to the type of machine it is.
As the other fella said some will love it on looks alone and for the average rider it will be of little relavence.
I'm coming at this from a performance orientated point of view. I can ride at a respectible pace and appreciate bikes at the more focussed end of the spectrum.
But going back to the average rider point of view, engine, chassis and how the package gels is just something to talk about at the pub. objectively assessing different qualities of different bikes is not within the grasp of your average rider.
As for ducati making awesome machines.....no arguement on that one.
They are however, much more difficult to ride at anything approaching 8 or 9 tenths and as a result less enjoyable and ultimately slower in all but the most talented hands.
Post 70 by Ducati Pete,
#70I know 3 guys that have near new 1098's and we all ride together street and track, I thought all 3 of them would surpass my expectations in the corners...
NOT, so far.... I have seen not a tail lamp in my front view. I like the sight of that sleek headlamp in my rear view, thus far I have not noticed how stellar they are,
none of the 3 doods are bad riders... just the opposite ... they are all accomplished riders but did not feel comfortable at moderate speeds in the tight stuff,
one of the 3 immediately sent all of his suspension parts off for further development. He has spent many $$ getting the duc dialed in but is very happy with it.
NOT, so far.... I have seen not a tail lamp in my front view. I like the sight of that sleek headlamp in my rear view, thus far I have not noticed how stellar they are,
none of the 3 doods are bad riders... just the opposite ... they are all accomplished riders but did not feel comfortable at moderate speeds in the tight stuff,
one of the 3 immediately sent all of his suspension parts off for further development. He has spent many $$ getting the duc dialed in but is very happy with it.
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Post 72 by couchcommando,
#72joe has rode many a steed capable and true,
in the end in large and small the choice is up to you.
need to say a bike with a 58.1" wheel base will be a cruiser,
not fit for the likes of me. any lump won't make up the difference of that.
in the end in large and small the choice is up to you.
need to say a bike with a 58.1" wheel base will be a cruiser,
not fit for the likes of me. any lump won't make up the difference of that.
Post 73 by topendz,
#73that quoted weight figure for the ducati will be dry, i promise.
That in turn will make it heavier or on par with the duke when fuelled.
We are comparing dry weight to dry weight. KTM lists the Super Duke at 186kg dry. That's 41 pounds heavier than the Ducati. you have to add oil, coolant and fuel to both bikes, so while they will both gain weight, the Ducati will remain about 40 pounds lighter than the KTM, and that is a huge difference.
On the engine power advantage......what good did it do for the monster s4rs?? A bike with fantastic specs, componentry etc......just unfortunately fell short underneath a spirited rider. Fantastic for posers and straight line heroes.
The Monster is a 15 year old design. It has been updated a few times, but it is still from the early 1990's. The Streetfighter is based off of the 1098 platform. Again, big difference!
I would wager that with a control rider (a sport orientated one at that), for comparitive purposes, an sd would be quicker over a given section of twisties.
I guess time will show whether or not you are correct. However, I expect that the comparison tests will include things other than the tightest mountain roads. If all I rode on was the Tail of the Dragon, and I was Rossi, perhaps the KTM will prove to be the "better" ride.
But by and large, as a street bike, and one that might see some track use, I am putting my money on the Ducati.
Ducati's, by and large, are owned and ridden by those more concerned with image than performance. And in road legal trim, like for like they dont perform as well as their direct competitors......that goes double for their 1098 model. and no.......the 20k R does not have a direct rival.
A Ford is probably easier to drive then a Ferrari, I don't know that it makes the Ford a better car.
If all we cared about was the best performance, we would all buy a 2008 Fireblade and call it a day. But Ducati and KTM owners alike do care about image, and they do want something difference from the "unwashed masses".
Believe it or not i dont hate ducati. And i dont own a superduke.
Perhaps if you did own and ride both you would be better prepared to discuss the differences?
Experience however, has shown that on the road and in road legal trim at least, ducati's have tended to look better than they go.......
I don't have the same experience. It all comes down to the rider and I have seen some wicked fast Ducati riders up in the mountains. I do think that they may be more cautious and responsible and less "squidly", as they tend to be more expensive and all that.
Not sure what you mean by road legal trim. Here I can throw on whatever exhaust and stuff I want. My S4RS had an exhaust that was over 125dB. LOL
That in turn will make it heavier or on par with the duke when fuelled.
We are comparing dry weight to dry weight. KTM lists the Super Duke at 186kg dry. That's 41 pounds heavier than the Ducati. you have to add oil, coolant and fuel to both bikes, so while they will both gain weight, the Ducati will remain about 40 pounds lighter than the KTM, and that is a huge difference.
On the engine power advantage......what good did it do for the monster s4rs?? A bike with fantastic specs, componentry etc......just unfortunately fell short underneath a spirited rider. Fantastic for posers and straight line heroes.
The Monster is a 15 year old design. It has been updated a few times, but it is still from the early 1990's. The Streetfighter is based off of the 1098 platform. Again, big difference!
I would wager that with a control rider (a sport orientated one at that), for comparitive purposes, an sd would be quicker over a given section of twisties.
I guess time will show whether or not you are correct. However, I expect that the comparison tests will include things other than the tightest mountain roads. If all I rode on was the Tail of the Dragon, and I was Rossi, perhaps the KTM will prove to be the "better" ride.
But by and large, as a street bike, and one that might see some track use, I am putting my money on the Ducati.
Ducati's, by and large, are owned and ridden by those more concerned with image than performance. And in road legal trim, like for like they dont perform as well as their direct competitors......that goes double for their 1098 model. and no.......the 20k R does not have a direct rival.
A Ford is probably easier to drive then a Ferrari, I don't know that it makes the Ford a better car.
If all we cared about was the best performance, we would all buy a 2008 Fireblade and call it a day. But Ducati and KTM owners alike do care about image, and they do want something difference from the "unwashed masses".
Believe it or not i dont hate ducati. And i dont own a superduke.
Perhaps if you did own and ride both you would be better prepared to discuss the differences?
Experience however, has shown that on the road and in road legal trim at least, ducati's have tended to look better than they go.......
I don't have the same experience. It all comes down to the rider and I have seen some wicked fast Ducati riders up in the mountains. I do think that they may be more cautious and responsible and less "squidly", as they tend to be more expensive and all that.
Not sure what you mean by road legal trim. Here I can throw on whatever exhaust and stuff I want. My S4RS had an exhaust that was over 125dB. LOL
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