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From Monster/Brutale/Tuono to Duke anyone?
21 posts · Started by Superdan · 21 Oct 2007
Post 2 by DukeKook,
#2Read lots of articles in relation to the duke, started off wanting a used old style tuono, then decided on a new shape tuono, was just about about to go buy one when a duke came along (really wanted the duke from the start but none around when I wanted one and had the money to buy one) travelled 170 miles to get it in the end!
MV agusta could not afford the 910 and did not think the 750 was gutsy enough but I do like the looks. Never ridden one though
Ducati, reliability, service costs and the fact the looks were not that great compared to the SD.
Never even test rode the SD knew it would be great and it is.
MV agusta could not afford the 910 and did not think the 750 was gutsy enough but I do like the looks. Never ridden one though
Ducati, reliability, service costs and the fact the looks were not that great compared to the SD.
Never even test rode the SD knew it would be great and it is.
Post 3 by Bodge,
#3I had an 03 aprilia Touno befor my SD ,for 2'1/2 years absolutley loved it after some expensive tweeking Pipe ,pc111 ,Air box mod ,difrent gearing , but I will say this iff you are eney good at rideing a bike farst rownd twistys and like to relax , buy the SD , iff you like comeing home absolutley fook't after 200'miles ,day out ,sort of thing , then buy the Touno
I have been out with my mate on his 07 facktry Touno to day and he can hussel it and was pushng it, and he is a bloody good rider ,and he was werking it in the wind ,I just sat there grining becose Iknoe what he was going through and Ilarphed even more when he cept opening it up 120'140,mph to see iff he coud loos me the duke just toodeld alng nicley and mached him evry time ,
the SD is not top hevey like the aprilia
the SD is lite and nimbule compaird to the aprila
the SD dose not have the top end of the Touno ,but who the hell whont's to be doing 165,mph on a neckid eney way not comfy at all, I must be getting old .
serviceing is cheaper on the SD ,
bild qulity is beter on the SD ,
parts are cheeper on the SD,
over here parts tern up within too days .
aprilia parts you can whate up to four munths for parts and thats in the UK,
SPEED whise theres nuthing in it iff eney thing I think the SD gets the jump on the Touno becose its lihgter ,but they are prity well mached parformence wise up two arownd 145'mph ,but you can push the SD rownd some big bends at that speed and not get out of shape ,try it on a Touno
The Touno is a choped up RSV , the SD was loveingley spornd properley from clay and papermashay to do a job rownd twisty roads ,and mowntins ,and to piss of sports bikes rownd town and in the twistys ,
onley a man with a small dick and an uggley wife buys a shit handerling MV.
I have been out with my mate on his 07 facktry Touno to day and he can hussel it and was pushng it, and he is a bloody good rider ,and he was werking it in the wind ,I just sat there grining becose Iknoe what he was going through and Ilarphed even more when he cept opening it up 120'140,mph to see iff he coud loos me the duke just toodeld alng nicley and mached him evry time ,
the SD is not top hevey like the aprilia
the SD is lite and nimbule compaird to the aprila
the SD dose not have the top end of the Touno ,but who the hell whont's to be doing 165,mph on a neckid eney way not comfy at all, I must be getting old .
serviceing is cheaper on the SD ,
bild qulity is beter on the SD ,
parts are cheeper on the SD,
over here parts tern up within too days .
aprilia parts you can whate up to four munths for parts and thats in the UK,
SPEED whise theres nuthing in it iff eney thing I think the SD gets the jump on the Touno becose its lihgter ,but they are prity well mached parformence wise up two arownd 145'mph ,but you can push the SD rownd some big bends at that speed and not get out of shape ,try it on a Touno
The Touno is a choped up RSV , the SD was loveingley spornd properley from clay and papermashay to do a job rownd twisty roads ,and mowntins ,and to piss of sports bikes rownd town and in the twistys ,
onley a man with a small dick and an uggley wife buys a shit handerling MV.
Post 4 by DukeKook,
#4The sd is lighter ,more nimble ,more focused, than the tuono ,the rear brake doesnt work on the tuono !! ,benelli tnt a rare beast though....
Post 5 by baggieman,
#5Ummm hello.... I dont think you all are giving the Tuono a fair shake.
No doubt I prefer the SD but some of the stuff claimed in this thred are funny... The Tuono will walk away from the SD on really fast sweeping corners and streights.
In the US parts are easy to come by for the Tuono, and near impossible and more expensive for the SD.
Service cost is very similer, but compare 1st service on the Tuono and the SD the Tuono is MUCH cheeper as no valve chk/adj needed at 600 miles
Warranty on the Tuono is longer.
Build quality on the Tuono is second to none. Dont get me wrong the SD is very good as well, but to say it is better than the Aprilia is wrong.
The Super Duke is not faster than the Tuono, it is lighter, it is more fun to ride, but it is most definitly not faster nor does it handle high speed corners better.
The bottom line between these 2 bikes IMHO?
If you do alot of track days or like to go really fast 100+ everywhere the Tuono is the better choice, plus it is just complete eye candy.
If you are commuting, riding really twisty bits, or just raising hell around the country side, there is not better tool on earth than the SD
No doubt I prefer the SD but some of the stuff claimed in this thred are funny... The Tuono will walk away from the SD on really fast sweeping corners and streights.
In the US parts are easy to come by for the Tuono, and near impossible and more expensive for the SD.
Service cost is very similer, but compare 1st service on the Tuono and the SD the Tuono is MUCH cheeper as no valve chk/adj needed at 600 miles
Warranty on the Tuono is longer.
Build quality on the Tuono is second to none. Dont get me wrong the SD is very good as well, but to say it is better than the Aprilia is wrong.
The Super Duke is not faster than the Tuono, it is lighter, it is more fun to ride, but it is most definitly not faster nor does it handle high speed corners better.
The bottom line between these 2 bikes IMHO?
If you do alot of track days or like to go really fast 100+ everywhere the Tuono is the better choice, plus it is just complete eye candy.
If you are commuting, riding really twisty bits, or just raising hell around the country side, there is not better tool on earth than the SD
Post 6 by Dr F,
#6The Tuono is a cool bike, but I'd take my SD over my'03 Tuono any day. Way more fun and nimble. For a lot of high(er) speed riding, I'd stay w/the Tuono.
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Post 12 by Captain Pugwash,
#12I sat on a newer Brutale and it seemed very tiny. Can you compare the seating positions between it and the SD?
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Post 17 by Dr F,
#17I think that's one thing (at least in my neck of the woods) that Ducati has over KTM. My local Ducati dealer is one of the top 5 dealers in the U.S. They have a very good OEM parts stock and plenty of apparel and aftermarket parts. And I know they'd go to bat for me if I ever had a warranty issue w/ Ducati NA.
I have 3 KTM dealers within 50 miles of me but none of them have a very strong commitment to KTM. In all of the shops I've visited they support KTM like a second tier brand. They're all Japanese bikes shops. What KTM needs to do is align with other European brand dealers as imo potential buyers would cross shop between any of the Italian brands, and BMW. As it is right now the dealer support is so weak in my area that it's actually a deterent to buy a KTM.
I have 3 KTM dealers within 50 miles of me but none of them have a very strong commitment to KTM. In all of the shops I've visited they support KTM like a second tier brand. They're all Japanese bikes shops. What KTM needs to do is align with other European brand dealers as imo potential buyers would cross shop between any of the Italian brands, and BMW. As it is right now the dealer support is so weak in my area that it's actually a deterent to buy a KTM.
Post 18 by DukeKook,
#18I had a Brutale 910. It was VERY fast and remarkably torquey for an I4. I really miss it......but I kept having all sorts of little issues that turned me off of Cagiva products. Weird electrical gremlins, the headlight lens falling off and then Cagiva taking over 2 months to send a new one, and so on. At the time I worked at a Duc/KTM/MV shop, and nearly every MV came back with some issue. The F41000's would melt the cheap plastic radiator fans. We'd replace them with Muzzy aluminium units because Cagiva wasn't about to change the design. The Brutales were known for an odd ECU issue that I never fully understood.
I traded my Brutale in for the SD. It isn't as fast, but its much more comfortable, easier to ride, and it has been completely problem free.
I traded my Brutale in for the SD. It isn't as fast, but its much more comfortable, easier to ride, and it has been completely problem free.
Post 19 by collyer,
#19Yes--I ended up drinking the orange kool-aid--I like the v-twin (or Triumph I-3, for that matter) better for midrange street riding--less hornet's nest-like (tingly/buzzy).
Post 20 by Skavitch,
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Didn't someone once say that the motor on the Tuono looked like the back of a washing machine?
(Thanks Capt. P for photo)
Post 21 by Skavitch,
#21I think if you look at te motor closely ,you can see it is almost identical to the SD
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