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25 posts · Started by OldSlowSteve · 26 Mar 2012

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Ok. So, just quickly. I've owned an R1, GSX-R1100, GSX-R750, RC51, ZZ-R250, RGV-250, CBR900, CB1300, Speed Triple 1050, RC8, Superduke-R... I've ridden for a long time. I've recently started scratching up in the hills again after taking a few years to do all my hooliganism on the track. The Superduke-R is the most fun thing I've ever ridden in the hills. It's bullshit fun.

But, everyone tells me "You're ridding it wrong!". I sit up on the SD-R and ride it like a Motard. I drag the odd knee on it but generally sit up on it and pin it into turns like a mad fook.

I'm not riding it like I do the RC8 - like they teach you to ride a sporty.

I ride it like a dirt bike. Is this wrong?
nope, you're doin it right!
Ride it like a motard as in with your leg out?

If the answer is no, then its just your riding style.
sounds like your mates are jealous tell them to sit up like in school, if they slouch over there tank they will get a hunch back
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i can't attest to the "R" but certainly ride my SD that way ....
there's some tight stuff out here "Tunitas Creek Road" and i definately get into dirt bike mentality while rid'n it....

Long sweepers of course i hunker down and think smooth ....... Otherwise the bike's a HOOLIGAN and begs to be ripped Dirt style.
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Whatever works for you.
Personally I hang off whilst sitting fairly upright.
Kinda a mixture of the two.
I tried putting a boot out but with the lean angles you can carry on these things it doesn't seems to work for me.
These guys seem to have the right idea for a Supermoto stylee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... eUK6aOEJKo
Keep your feet on those pegs. Itaint a motard, only a tard would ride it like he/was some kinda XGames hooligan.
I seen some yahoo at a Lee Parks class actin all Fillmoreish and he looked the total MoTard.
We had two Ron's working for a company I was pounding nails for. One was Ron and the other was More Ron. It fit better than one could imagine.
Dont listen to people tell you to ride your bike in a way that will keep others from wanting to stop at a watering hole with you on a ride out.
If you feel the urge, have someone duct tape your feet to the pegs, that will cure you.
Feet off at the stop on on all other situations.
Coarse you could add the Rossi move at entry for a total cool look.
I agree with most of you guys.I have been ridding for 40 years I have read books been to the schools etc. I say what ever makes you go fast works.
There is an old story about a flat track racer that used to tuck his head under his arm to look back.
He only did it because he was blind in one eye.But he won a ton of races.all of a sudden other racers started to do the same thing. even if they had two good eyes.
The duke can be ridden anyway that you want I have ridden it like a MX bike and I have hung off they both work.
Go have fun track it. It's a gas.When you pass a guy that is hanging off while you are sitting up. it will be cool.
Must say, coming originally from moto/enduro to supermoto to the Superduke sometimes I feel like throwing my foot out in a tight corner. If you can back it in by all means do so!
I wish I could slide it around like Nicky Hayden on a supermoto.

...which ever way works for you...I seem to do a bit of both.....I think it has both sets of Genes.........(thats my excuse)

The only thing to be aware of ...on the right hand side the engine cases touch down after you wear about 1/2" of the foot rests......
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Thanks all.

I don't get the foot out, I'm more elbows and knees out. Still, I'm keeping up with the kids on their Rice rockets. So they can get fooked.
Watch the Indy and Daytona races (if you can find them) of the HD XR1200. The bikes have a similar riding position/handlebars, etc. They clearly know the fastest way around the track. As for riding like that on the road? For wankers methinks. There is no way that you can judge the surface, tyre grip OR oncoming traffic enough to warrant that kind of riding.
I used to be quite a stud in the mountains, or so I thought. Found out I knew shit about riding once I hit the track. Amazing I ever survived on the road.
MY style at the track was probably a mix of both but I found myself upright unless I consciously made my self ride more road racing style. The latter definitely got me around the track faster.
It's pretty hard to get your head over the mirrors when you have handlebars that are damn near a meter wide though.

I would say that if you have owned and ridden all of those bikes successfully, you know what you are doing.
The foot out thing you don't get is a MX or flat track steel shoe support carry over technique. All it will do for your SD street riding is wear your boots out. It's much cooler to drift the corners with your feet on the pegs.
You have power steering with the wide SD dirt bike bars. Use them.
Wait till you pass a sport bike on the outside corner sitting upright thru the corner looking down at them. I did that on a right hander. It was so cool when the guy had to look up at me as I passed him. He thought he was really going. It made me sit up straighter and grin ear to ear. That was moons ago on my 82 750 GPZ but one of thos moments I will never forget.
Go to about 6 mins on this video and watch the guys in front, this is generally how i ride mine on track. Bit less hang off on the road though

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First, I have to agree with all the guys who said to ride it as you feel comfortable.

I rode mine in every configuration imaginable: bolt upright, full cheek off (never got a knee down, my legs are too short and stubby), upper body hanging off, pivoting around the tank and about a 1/2 cheek off. I found I was fastest on the track with just the 1/2 cheek off. On the street (and during the first few track sessions), I didn't trust the front and so I hung off more and that slowed me down some.

I've recently tested a GSXR 1000 and it was amazing how different it was to ride. It didn't like to be ridden bolt upright at all. It fell in corners, and I found myself hanging off as a natural result within a few miles.

Prior to that, I rode an '12 BMW S1000RR. It was the opposite of the GSXR. I never hung off it at all. It barely leaned in corners, but that wasn't a bad thing. It didn't run wide or do anything untoward. It went exactly where you wanted it to go, but required very little lean angle to accomplish this. I think you'd have to be going Mach Schnell before you'd have to lean it very far and Uber Schnell before you had to hang off. (As I recall, the first gen S1000RR was more like the GSXR).

So, the bottom line is ride it as you want. The SD allows many riding styles. Find one that's comfortable for you and do it.
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Yeah you have to wonder which book/DVD/Race school the likes of Rossi, Dunlop,Roberts,Doohan learned their stuff from
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