KTM Superduke 1290r exhaust options

Thought it would be good to have a thread showing all the new exhaust options available for the 1290 Superduke R.. Without further ado:



http://www.austinracing.info/mall/depar ... /_500293/1

SUPERDUKE 1290 GP1 HI SLUNG DE CAT EXHAUST SYSTEM. THE AMAZING ALL NEW GP1 HI SLUNG EXHAUST SYSTEM COMING VERY SOON WILL BE AVAILABLE IN DECAT & FULL SYSTEMS. (headers available later in year will fit to de cat systems)





GP3 LOW LEVEL. ALLOWS REAR PASSENGER PEG USE. NOW Available to order, please allow 2-3 weeks for delivery from the very first build batch. The GP3 is a decat system, when we release race headers later this year they will fit to ytour GP3 exhaust.







Full system



Slip on





http://wingsexhausts.com.au/new_1190_nos_carbon_11.html



The Wings 1290r is a short exhaust, built to the same unmatched quality as all the other WINGS exhausts. Available for delivery at the end of February 2014, we are taking pre-orders now. While the manufacturer continues to include 2 baffle sizes to his European customers, We have chosen to keep the price as low as possible by only having the larger "EU 40mm" baffle included in the 1190 exhaust kit. Any other additional baffle can be requested at an extra cost, or as a substitute for the "default EU 40mm" item at no extra cost.




Can be found on Ebay





Can be found on Ebay




Post up any more you guys find and I'll add it to the OP.

Cheers,
Jem

And if anyone finds an underslung full system like the rc8. .. You will be my favourite person and will be the thing that tips me over the scales to buy a 1290. So far the gp1 full system is the winner by far

I've tried loads of different exhaust systems over the years... D&D, Arrow, Remus, Yoshi etc, but every single time I've switched back to Akrapovic.

Nothing comes near them in terms of quality.

The bonus is, with the KTM it means warranty is unaffected and the kit comes with air filter, sas removal kit and the correct map.

Dread to think what the AR pipes do to fuelling...

Leeroy

I remember seeing an rc8r race bike with a fully custom 2-1 header with a tiny collector. It might have been a tri-valley bike. It had the tuned length headers that looked so stupidly mean it wasn't funny. That being said it was pretty much just a proper header system that didn't really have a muffler.

As for the akra gear. .. For once they made the worst looking system available... and want to charge the earth for it. Their ti gear cracks like a mofo too.

Agreed that it could be prettier..!

Never had an issue with them cracking. Always found them to be perfect.

My old Mille had a Colin Edwards SBK engine in it and I had to get Akrapovic to custom build me some headers... They were a complete work of art... A complete work of £3500 art..!!!

The AR high level pipe is £1100 for an end can. Hardly cheap, and nowhere near Akrapovic quality.

Leeroy

I'm hoping Competition Werkes makes an exhaust for the 1290r. I had a set on my R1 and 1098s and loved the sound they produced to bits. Love the welding they do too:

Works lovely on mine. Thank you very much.

leeroy is just a fanboy, cut em some slack ktmguy

Guy. . You are completely correct. The most stupidly rich map available was the akra map. So much so that it can cope a host of mods including motobox, removal of secondary flies, modified intakes as well as a straight through system.

In fact, even after all these mods, the map can be further leaned out.

Just a fanboy...???

FFS.

I haven't knocked anyone else's systems or approach...

Just said that in my opinion, Akrapovic make better quality systems than any others that I've tried. And I've tried many, but, sometimes reluctantly, end up going back to Akrapovic.

Some of the ones listed above look great (Werks, AR), but they're all only end cans and therefore not really relevant to me... and all potentially void your warranty. I had a good look at the AR cans last week and the quality, for me, isn't up to Akrapovic.

Each to their own. Whatever.

Thought I'd share this with you. Mivv didnt show any interest back in October and I havent seen any further news on their website....


> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: R: Richiesta di informazione del Sig. david munday inviata attraverso il sito MIVV.it
> To: [email protected]
> Received: Friday, 4 October, 2013, 8:03 PM
> Hello,
>
> unfortunately we don't make any exhaust system for the the
> new 1290
> Superduke R and there are no plans in the short period.
>
> Any future update will be published on our website
> www.mivv.it
>
> Cordiali saluti ------ Best regards ------ Mit
> freundlichen Grußen ------
> Meilleures salutations ----- Saludos
> cordiales
>
> MIVV S.p.A.
> +39 (0)861 8120237
> +39 (0)861 8120240
> [email protected]
> http://www.mivv.it
>
> MIVV Official
> http://www.youtube.com/mivvexhausts
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> >
> Inviato: venerdì 4 ottobre 2013 6.02
> A: [email protected]
> Oggetto: Richiesta di informazione del Sig. david munday
> inviata attraverso
> il sito MIVV.it
>
> ATTENZIONE: EMAIL INVIATA DAL SITO IN VERSIONE INGLESE
>
> Per agevolare le risposte alle tue richieste riportiamo di
> seguito un elenco
> degli argomenti maggiormente utilizzati. Ti preghiamo di
> cliccare
> sull'argomento che riguarda la tua richiesta:
>
> Cognome e Nome: david munday
>
>
> Richiesta: Hi, I have MIVV suono titaniums on my 2010 model
> KTM Superduke R
> and love them. I will be buying the new 1290 Superduke R
> from the first
> batch that comes to Asia. The road version of the bike will
> have an Akra
> system for the road buy the prototype launched at EICMA last
> year has a
> straight through open system. I wont be riding this bike on
> the road and
> want a MIVV system as close to the design of the Akra system
> that was on the
> prototype at the EICMA launch. Please could you let me know
> if there is an
> exhaust system in your range that I can install on this new
> bike. Thank you.
> I look forward to hearing from you. David
>
>

Akra, graves, Arata, LV, Harris to name a few, are names I trust and respect. Sorry to say but all the AR's look like cheap shit and visually devalue the appearence of the bike imho, I mentally associate them with 2bros spontainously combusting slipons, cheap imitations.


The best isn't cheap.

ebags sounds like the type who just buys something because of the brand and how expensive it is, lol, I bet he hangs out at starbucks

Seems odd to me that Akra could provide two cans and a Y piece for the 990 bikes for $A1100 and yet a single for this bike is much more expensive and doesn't even include a decat pipe go figure that. I guess it is what they think the market will tolerate.

Also seems odd that AR Racing advertise the GP3 from GBP599 because people like us in Oz don't have to pay the VAT. What they don't seem to have realised is that the GBP599 figure takes us over the $1k import limit so we do have to pay the import and any other charges. They could win a lot of friends by looking closely at that.

Been promised a bike in Hong Kong within the next four weeks so looking at this post with a lot of interest. After looking at the available options I will go the full Akra system. Cost here is around HK $28K/ US $3,700 / UK 2,200 / AU$ 1,000,000. Does that sound in line with what KTM is charging in other countries?
Out of curiosity someone did mention earlier about pulling apart the existing can and taking out the cat and baffle. is this really feasible and if so would you need to also do some remapping?
thanks

Morning...

Could murder one of the best coffees in the world.

Better go to Melbourne.

The frustrating part is that I'm in qld. .. About 2000km away.

The areas with all the Italian dudes. .. they know how to make a great coffee... bellissimo.

I guess it comes down to your taste... im not into sweet coffees, bland coffees, bitter coffees. .. coffee with burnt milk or beans.

Just a good full bodied Italian coffee. .

Mmmm coffee... this was the first and only time I've ever ridden for the sole purpose of coffee. Note there are two helmets, the lesser of the two belonging to the Mrs... good excuse as any for a coffe run. We had juat aquired the short lived Dorso Factory 750 which was flipped along with the R1 for the 1290.

Coffee club made great coffee until they employeed Asain barista's. Absolutely no offense to Asians, I love you, your women and food but ffs you guys have no idea what (good) coffee is!!!!




Note: is this even classed as thread jacking or inadvertant bumping of thread with the exhausts I detest toping the page?? Any publicity/bumping is good publicity/bumping no?

Honestly the main point of this thread is the first post that will be updated with any new exhausts that are added. everything else is technically fair game. Cool helmet btw.

Had anyone tried to see if an rc8 underslung pipe will fit the 1290?

Racefit had a new can on display for the 1290 at the London bike show.

http://store.racefituk.com/

The bloke there could tell me nothing about the noise level and even told me that the can was designed to be taken off and the original put back on for trackdays???!!!

Hi, does anyone have experience or opinion with the IXIL exhaust ?

http://www.sc-project.com/ktm_1290_super_duke_e.htm
One option more

I still haven't seen what I want to see. .. underslung like an rc8. . Has anyone got an rc8 and a 1290 sd? Wanna see if the headers can swap over?

Just found this vid of the full Akra system. Good speakers needed!

I had pulled the cat off with the hope that the can would fit direct to the headers. But no, the cat has female flanges on both ends, and the can is a bit too long to fit in front of the rear tyre. And I'm not chopping up standard parts just yet.

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As I'm not an expert in exhausts....

If the main damping is in the first section of the standard exhaust (and I assume the effect on power), what is the effect of the second section on performance? I.e. is it possible to use an exhaust like a termignoni or akrapovic for a bwm s1000rr for example, which uses also a similar primary damping system?

I ordered my full Akro exhaust end of January when I got my SDR, and they keep saying it's been delayed, now talking May!! Has anyone else in Australia got a full system yet?

Don't rely on ktm Australia. .. They are completely useless and because you cannot order from ktm over seas due to supplier rights you can't even go anywhere else.

You are better off going aftermarket as has always been the case. It's part of the reason why ive never bought the latest of anything. .. gives the aftermarket time to catch up.

Wait for the air boxes, exhausts and how to break the ecu , then it will be fun

Local dealer took his demo bike to an exhaust shop and fitted a link pipe to replace the CAT and then gutted the stock can. Just heard it briefly in his shop and not on the road yet but it sounds seriously wicked. I have the Akra end can on and am now seriously considering removing the CAT and having a link pipe made up for it.

if this has been run before then I apologise. Pretty raw tho eh...

You guys with the Akro slip on, are you getting popping on decel? I am getting a considerable amount on my bike on decel only which can be normal after hard acceleration. Anyone getting popping on decel on stock can?

My Akra end can is stock so still has the DB killers in it. I did the 15 minute idle reset on it as it was popping badly when I got it back from the dealer where it was fitted after the first service. After the idle reset I would say it popped less but it definitely still pops a fair bit.

I am now trying to find out if it needs to be remapped if I fit a link pipe, does anyone know?

Glad its not an isolated case at least

Removal of the SAS will get rid of most of the popping.
Anyone done this yet?

The popping always sounded great. .. sas for me, was to remove clutter. .. not the popping.

Must admit I do like the popping. Would hate to lose that after the SAS.

Received a pic from the dealer of their link pipe. As per them they just did the 15 min reset and they gained 10 hp with the Akra slipon and the link pipe. No software update done.

Can someone explain to me why there seems to be an assumption that the 15 minute reset will be the the same on the 1290 as the 990? It always was black magic bullshit so why would anyone start doing it on a bike that has had its fueling fixed and presumably had the software rewritten.

Has anyone seen it in a 1290 manual? Has anyone seen a 1290 repair manual?

Thanks for that but I am a sceptic. Time will prove whether what the dealers say is based on fact or bullshit so I will reserve judgement.
My problem with the 990's was that if the 15min reset was actually changing anything that was used by the ECU why didn't they just map it into the ECU and make it so that the values could be reset. Why would anyone in their right mind design a system that took 15 minutes to accomplish when it could be done in seconds? If such a system has been migrated then I think I need to apply for a job at KTM designing their software for them In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm a Dinosaur I think I should tell them what they need to do How about a setting in the multi-function menu that just says "Reset rider parameters". This bike has so much to offer and so many hurdles BUT "we will overcome" comrades...

Actually, letting the bike run for 15 min to do the " reset " makes sense. Consider that the engine needs time to stabilize temps and measure values over a certain amount of time before recalibrating certain parameters, it wouldn't be enough simply to clear already stored values, you also need a new baseline.

I have done a very basic SAS blank job by fitting thin blanking plates under the stock SAS flanges on the motor. I have not removed the valve or any plumbing yet and I have not done the "15 minute reset".
Interestingly I have not noticed any change to the amount of popping on closed throttle. I run 95 RON, stock pipes and have 650 Klm's on clock.
Over the weekend I will do a 15 minute reset to see if there is any change. One thing I have noticed is that my header pipes are more discoloured from heat than others I have seen on this forum which doesnt make sense because you would think that any unburnt fuel in the pipes would act to quench the heat of the exhaust.
Dont ask me for pics because I cant figure that shiet out

Ok, so thanks to Jmann and his informative link I hope I have this right and can now post this pic of an Akrapovic exhaust with a home made link pipe. Not my bike but one where someone sent me the pic of their bike to show how they did their link pipe as I want to do the same. Really hope the pics work, I am not as much a teenager as Jmann

That looks awesome!!

That Akra is a short one and is shorter than mine, my link pipe will have to be a bit longer and my pipe sticks out more over the rear wheel. Will see if I can get the pic I have of my Akra with the CAT still in on my phone onto my PC and then onto the forum.

Ok, so this is what the standard Akra looks like with the CAT still in, definitely not as good as the shorter one but still better than the standard pipe. Apologies for the quality but have a very cheap phone that I used to take the pic and as I am not at home to take a better one then this will do for now.

Comrade: This is cool what Akra can is it? What bike is it from?

[quote="jmann"]Comrade: This is cool what Akra can is it? What bike is it from?

Jmann, it is on a 1290 Superduke R and not 100% sure of the part number for the can but seems to be the Anniversary Edition. I can find out more if you want but will take a few days to get the info.

Nah I'm an Ozzie born in London.

He has a limp and a Titanium rod in his leg from a motorcycle accident years ago. He went there because he was interested in Sartrean Existentialism which is named after Sartre much less interesting that CanBus just idle curiosity on the Can - at your leisure.

Would be interesting to hear from the exhaust design guys as to the use of a ZX10 Akra. Whilst HP is similar, the pulses from an IL 4 to a V2 are very different and will have a different effect on scavenging. Would be interesting to see if that would be affected and how it would be affected by the wrong exhaust.

That looks amazing... I wonder how loud it is?

I ordered myself a racefit growler carbon exhaust today. Probably going to take a couple of weeks but i will post pics and video as soon as i get it fitted to the bike.

Have a look at the web page of sc-project, they are due to release one and looking at thier other products and cost it could be a good option

Comrade: Thanks for that.

Emailed bos exhaust today to find out when their going to bring out the decat link pipe they have shown on youtube.
replyed back saying it should be out at the end of this month, but couldnt say on price yet!

Akrapovic Slip on...

Is the slip on a sealed unit or can you remove the db killer/baffle?

The KTM importer said the slip-on is a sealed can.

I was at the dealer dropping my bike off for 1st service and sussing out some parts and I asked about the full system and slip on so she called KTM Aus and said all the full systems are all accounted for in the May shipment and the next shipment in june are going up 20% including the slip on. (maybe aus dollar )

I'm not saying that akrapovic stuff is not good, because it's very good. I'm just saying that because of the deal with KTM all their stuff costs a lot more for KTM bikes compared to other brands.

A full system for a 899 and 1199 is $4500 US so the 1290 full system is cheaper

I guess it's just here then.

BMW oz were including the Akro with the purchase of the S1000RR, cant see KTM doing the same.

How loud?

Looks like the CAT is still in?

Does it affect the engine when you remove the muffler like this?
I have a small exhaust like the picture that I would like to test drive, but will not risk ruining the engine.
I tried my exhaust today, just to hear the difference between idle and some revs..

^^^ haha Supercheap Auto, nice work.

Akra before and after

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=48 ... =2&theater

I really hope this is the Akra system - have commented on the video but no response as yet.

I've had to listen to it a few times now, sounds incredible!

1. Looks better
2. Sounds better
3. Just because we fucken please

Very doubtful

I misunderstood. I though you were implying a 4 kg gain for some reason.

For anyone still looking, sc project now have the sd done, 390 euros and a month the link pipebto decat shall be out

Can one of you rich guys with a new 1290 do a proper fly by video with your after market exhaust?

All I can find on youtube are people revving it in neutral, which doesn't sound nearly as good as the engine under load.

Sincerly,

A 990 peasant.

not sure if repost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odVwap71YE

new option from sc project


http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ktm/ ... xhaust.jpg

Im sick of waiting for the full system plus the price has been jacked up again . I have gone with the Akra slip on and getting a link pipe made with a Rexxer map .

I'm having one made . Got a zaust guy coming around to measure it up . Will let you know how I go .

Off the shelf decat pipes available:
http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/IX ... 2RpKVdWitZ

Think it has been posted before, but looks to me like the bodis version shown here is more properly tuned with the proper length.

There seems to be option out there for owners who want something bigger and uglier than the standard muffler .http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/POT-DECHAPPE ... JG_Moto_Pièces&hash=item58af1bf2ef&_uhb=1

I agree . I would say possibly losing a little torque with the straight pipe ?

Two heat cycles though it, no riding yet sadly.

Bloody awesome

You can tell the pipe Joins are done in a machine and the sensor plate done by hand - cant wait to hear what a difference it makes once its mapped and filter installed. Something to look forward too

And the sound?

Nice to see they fitted 18mm to 12mm O2 sensor bungs, this will make it easier to single cylinder map the bike with a PCV on the Dyno or Auto Tune.

The headers look soo tough. Love it. Can't wait to see the ones Austin Racing come up with.

I bet the AR headers dont have as many welded pipe joins on the front cylinder - its no wonder they cost heaps.

Ebags - you mentioned you have heat cycled the system twice, is there a recomendation from Akro that you do this to condition the materials or have you just done this yourself?

They look fat mate

Thanks Lads, she is rather magnificent!

The sound is really something else. Very ferocious, deep & LOUD without the baffle. Not sure what its like with the baffle in and don't care - I wear ear plugs anyway.

Akra do recommend the following: " when you first use the main silencer. keep the engine speed low for about 5 minutes to warm the main silencer evenly. This will ensure that the rick wool will have full effect and keep noise down to the required level."

And trust me you DON'T want it louder than was it is lol! It's also a good time to check for leaks etc.

WORD OF WARNING. I'm very mechanically minded and removing the "old" exhaust and refitting the new Akra only took me 50 minutes but I forgot one CRITICAL STEP! WIPE DOWN THE ENTIRE EXHAUST WITH METHO/ISOPROPYL/BRAKE CLEANER BEFORE PUTTING HEAD THROUGH THE PIPES.

If you don't like me you will bake in all the little grubby finger prints you left fitting the pipes. I got lucky and the rear header was the only section affected so I removed it and with a scotchbrite pads rubbed it back with WD40 and re heated.

Also if you rub down the exhaust with WD40 on a rag and run heat through it you get a better/stronger colour of blue. First heat cycle I did was 5 minutes at idle, second was also 5 minutes with WD40 and from minute 3-4 I held the revs at 5k to get some heat really happening.

Oh, for the price you think they would include a spring puller (mates of mine have bought several Akras and they were included I've always bought second hand so didn't know any different), the K&N air filter and the SAS block off kit.. but NO they don't. They do however point you in the right direction with the product codes and tell you that you must have the filter and kit to use the exhaust. Thieving kents that they are!

So if you are awaiting you Akra and want to save time order the filter and SAS kit. K&N product code is 'KT-1113' and its also listed on Ebay.

I would like to do sound comparisons but contrary to popular belief reving the shit out of a motor without load isn't actually good for it... who would have though. I would like to do some fly buys etc but honestly once I get around to it there will proably

Sorry for the rant here's some more pictures to make up for it. Oh and I have weighed each piece individually both OE and Akra I will endevour to post that up too. 6.3kg down with the Akra (so thats a total of 10kg down for me now )











And yes the center muffler is straight through

i do like a bit of popping tho!

With the bung in you get an almost jet engine noise from the exhaust gasses accelerating through the reduced diameter of the bung. It's a pretty cool sound! I hate riding with earplugs so I'll most likely have the bung in most of the time.

Must try your WD40 trick, mine's pretty blue already but there's a few bits not changed colour much.

Still undecided on my exhaust choice and even wether to decat or not.

I do like the RaceFit exhaust with Growler tip so i'm thinking of the bodies decat pipe and Racefit end can.....


Racfit do a decat version but their decat pipe is straight.

I honestly think after fitting the full Akra (that has a center muffler of sorts even though its straight through), having a straight through pipe in place of the cat would be obnoxiously loud.

Rear cylinder is easy to disconnect, front cylinder I had to turn the downpipe as the wiring is impossible to pull out without removing water pipes. The nut is part of the sensor so turns with the wiring.

Thanks mate
Also received your email about the bearing and appreciate you sending it to me. Would you believe the manual turned up two days later - typical ah!
Cheers.

AND - are the threads tapered or parallel and do you apply any teflon sealant on the threads or assembly them dry? And/or are there compression washers with the kit that seal the nuts?

Olden has reset the bar - fly-bys only permitted with wheelie control switched off
Some of these clips may end up in that other section of YouTube.......

Just a heads up guys that are fitting the full Akra. Please use NICKLE GREASE on the O2 sensor threads being VERY careful not to get it on the sensor itself. Nickle grease can handle up to 800C and will ensure the bungs dont seize up over time. The adapter bungs that come fitted in the headers already have a light coating but I added a little more just to be sure.

Tubes can be had for around 10-13 dollars.

Remus

What a weird and ugly shape.

That's what a lot of the Jap bike riders say about the whole bike

i'm weighing options for a full system and it looks like:

akra
austin racing
bodis

ill go with sas removal and high performance filter and tune for all (akra is already included apparently). does anyone have dyno's of these options compared to stock?

also, has anyone done the legwork an weight loss for AR and bodis (akra is -6 kg, thanks to one of you!)?

biggest saving is the cat, it weighs 5kg.

Full Akro went on yesterday, wow sounds amazing. Came with k and n filter, and SAS removal kit, took about two hours to fit at home, very easy fit. Weighed the bike before and after saved 6.2 kgs! Happy happy! Post pics tonight.

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Think i'm going to try this exhaust as something for now and i might get a bodies de cat after my Europe trip.

Here's the fly by with the Racefit growler. Did not come out as expected and the sound seems very different.

Yes, I have to admit that in the video it does sound like the stock exhaust, but in reality it's nothing like it. Gopro mic just ruins it.

Heads up that we have produced a bracket to allow passenger peg use with the GP1 exhaust.
Info on the gp1 thread.

I am trying to decide between the GP2R 110MM and the GP2 200mm exhaust for my beast...Just wondering if there is that much difference in sound? I really love the look of the GP2R shorty, but don't want open header loud!! Need help so I can put my order in. Thanks Scott

Ok, results are in. Fitted full Akro system, k&n, SAS removal, dropped 6.2kg on my scales. Had the bike flashed with the Akro map, 180hp at the wheel, fark!!!!

The mid range response has really picked up, huge torque to make for even easier wheel stands. And I thought it was good before!

Sound is deep and beautiful, sounds like the earth is coming to an end, just the way I like it.

I will order a Lithium battery this week, drop another 3.5 kg, making the total saving almost 10kg, that's got to make you smile

I will head for a track day next and try back to back with my RC8, actually exited! Any Brisbane bikes heading to Morgan Park at Warwick soon? Maybe Lakeside, if it's not to loud. The RC8 went 107db at Lakeside, they were not impressed, and I was rolling off a little.

Anyone tried the bodis decat pipe yet?

This is from an Italian forum, about Bodis decat :

Google translate:
Then I did the bike map for the Decat and silencer ..... result the bike is shit, does not pull and not good. Unfortunately, the mapping that the grant is made ​​for the complete exhaust akra, and everything has a to change the air filter, the test kit to remove the valves sas and then unloading has the largest diameter ..... about 13 mm. aspect O mappings that are issued other children (when they come out) or aspect of the power commander ( when it comes out). decatalizzata and I tried the bike with the original mapping is fine .... until it gets too hot, then after pulling less and crackles. ricatalizzato and I look And for now attack the siphon to the nail

Expecting mine in a few days, but won't be fitting it until the PCV (and A/T) are available.

I think in another thread neo from ar had said that this had happened in a race and was not to,pleased

The complete system look a little different from the normal akro because even the header pipes have different welded joins along the pipe length. Even the resonator material looks to be coated in something! I wonder if this is the new next generation Akro racing version. I dont think it is the AR can because it looks different, the one that Angus is using looks bigger than the AR can. I bet this is the new full race version. Nice looking system.
I had herd rumblings that there is a full race Akro map as well as the normal hooligan akro map - I wonder................

this would be good if it is from akra as it gives another option, at the moment i have not decided which one to put on the bike

Here's my full akrapovic system without DB-killer It's one hell of a different sound compared to stock!

hey, sounds just like my 990!

Rich from AR accused him of it in the GP1 thread . I figure he knows his product . Could be wrong I intend to agree it looks different from AR pipe.

I was at Mallala had a good look at the bike. looked like an A R can to me. the other 1290 there had the regular AR GP1 mounting position.

Anyone in OZ wants to part with the original 1290 cat? It is for a project and you wont see it back.
Don't need the end can just the cat box.
Will pay for shipping and a donation for beverages... (might regret that offer )
PM me.

Is Akra likely to have a full stainless steel system available anytime soon?

I wonder how loud that is.

I hope they plan to make a full system with resonator that's not too loud. So far i think it's the best looking one I have seen.

Ready for sale?

Looks great.. Having owned 2 bikes with CW systems this exhaust will be booming loud.

ktmguy, I like your thinking with turning the cat into a silencer. How are you making out?

OK all, I am a little embarrassed, help me out here please..

I have fitted the Akrapovic full system. Looks the must nuts, the bike handles and runs better but.........man it's giving me a headache....

Help me out here guys.....how do I make it a little quieter...

Ear plugs.

Between me bieng a lazy arse and tight arse i have not changed the exhaust but i am ready to get a sc project and link pipe that they now do, just have to decide which of the two to go for, the short one looks like it would be loud

What?

funny.

arrow now doing exhausts and link pipe

Correct it was, looks ok.

I give that zorst a solid "meh."

He's a bit grumpy coz he's on a Biafran diet....stripped the bike bare but still looking for a few more kgs
I get a bit that way leading up to a track day (got one tomorrow), so I can fit into the ever shrinking suit

Comrades: Nah he was just making explicit what to some might be implicit - that it helps everyone if a URL is provided.

The major distinction that Guy chose to ignore is that I when I tell people that "The search button is your best friend" they already know the URL (ie this forum) to search. I haven't been telling them to search the whole Internet. Indeed, to assist I'd need to search the threads in order to find the particular topic - some people are of course, generous to do this but after a while it can be tedious if many people keep asking the same type of things. In Gringo's case he probably had the page open in front of him so it may have been easy to copy and paste the URL - knows.

Bad day's? In my case Nah - the sun is shining, the back wheel ain't wobbling and it's one of my days off

good guys at colwyn bay ,was it ian you dealt with ?? i'll watch out for your comments on the end result !

Yeah Ian and Justin i deal with. Still not fitted it yet! as i'm using the bike for work everyday.

Hows yours running? any issues? rear hub etc etc etc etc etc....

fookin brilliant mate , no issues whatsoever ! the only thing that bugs me is the fookin stand , a pain to deploy lol oh yea and the way it handles , the way it looks , goes etc , it's too bloody addictive !! when you do get it fitted I will be very interested to see how much difference it makes , and is it worth the 2 grand ish , does the map come free with the whole set up ??

nice one i think you might be the only 1290 with no issues!

Yup the map is free part of the whole kit

job done mate cheers

competition werkes gp slip on I have been in contact with a rep from competition werkes and they are making a slip on with a cat delete and it looks sick. I don't know how to post pictures

Thanks man

I did do it. And it does make a difference. Subtle, but different.

Give me a shout if you decide to sell the Akrapovic.

Yep, I'm selling. PM sent.

Here is my set up link for the thread I posted about it.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=25220

Looks loud as hell!!

Is this your bike yohammer?

The wheel decals make it IMO!!

Yes,it's my bike with the ZX-10 exhaust.Driving it with DB-killer all times,without it's way to much noice.
This exhaust doesn't help you if you want extra preformance on your Superduke,but for the looks it's great.

Which decat link pipe was used to meet up to the muffler or was it a custom pipe made up for it?

Thinking maybe with an Akrapovic or similar slide in (200 cell) catalytic converter it will drop the noise considerably & give it the extra back pressure it needs which in turn shouldn't sacrifice performance & it might be possible to run the muffler with the DB killer out?

This should simulate the stock catalytic converter setup but weigh a lot less & flow much better which should equal better performance + the best part it should sound spot on, not too loud
Can you give me a rough ID of the baffle tube inside the ZX10R Akra muffler? just curious

Do you have anymore pics yohammer?

Superdukeinoz here some more pictures I went to mile pajic (former kawasaki racer) to let him make the link pipe,so it's custom made. I have looked for the catalytic converter but they are to big for the link pipe.
I have only see the m for cars. What do you mean with ID -inside diameter of the zx-10 exhaust?

Found it from akrapovic

Thanks for the pics yohammer, can you get a pic in the end of the muffler showing the inside baffle tube (with the DB killer out)? this is the size I was curious about (the internal dimensions of the muffler)

what size ( OD ) is the Akrapovic slip in catalytic converter in your pic?
I was just about to upload some pics of a similar slip in catalytic converter

Akrapovic catalytic converter P-KAT-011 ( 5545717-01 ) = 58mm OD
I cant seem to find these anywhere for sale?

Stole these pics from Kev, this is the slip in cat shown fitted in a Bodis link pipe so it depends on the link pipe or custom pipe (in your case) ID?

His one is from ducati and 72 mm I can't find a smaller diameter yet.You can find the diameter is in the approval
documents .
I will measure the size later today for you...

I think the slip in cat would get rid of most or all the nasty high pitch bark noise without being too restrictive, & it will keep the nice deep tone

There was one for sale on ebay last year that one was for a KTM.
The P-KAT-008 is 54mm in diameter and 57mm long according Ackrapovic website

On the internet I found this information;
P-Kat-008/2
Spare Part type Catalytic converters
Catalytic Converter D54/60 × 58
cells: 200cpsi / amount: 40g/ft relation: 4:0:1

P-kat-010/1 ;
Spare Part type Catalytic converters
Catalytic Converter D52/55(32,4) × 55
cells: 200cpsi / amount: 40g/ft relation: 4:0:1


http://www.ebay.de/itm/Akrapovic-Kataly ... 1729324842

Yep exactly the same info I found, wont work without a sleeve to space it for a tight fit + I would not want to restrict it more by doing that either
Seems like the KTM 61105099130 3 pack is non existent on this side of the earth? the EU etc prices I have found are pretty high too so it would make it pretty pricey just for the 1 cat, could sell the other 2....eventually I guess

Leo vince, Mivv & Arrow etc make the same type of slip in cats but it is just as hard to find the sizes & details etc for them also, if only they just listed a PDF file with the OD length & internal core types, would make it all so easy

Average price for the KTM set is 380€ indeed a lot of money if you only use 1 of the Cat's..

mmmm might have to look into some other alternatives? Im not having any luck finding anything with a 58mm OD though

Both the P-KAT-006/1 & P-KAT-006/3 are 58mm OD, the P-KAT-006/1 looks like it would do the job & from the pics I have found it looks as though it is 200 cell also

I have seen the same picture on Chinese website,are you sure it's the right part number by the picture....
Mine Chinese is not so good

Yes,it's 58 mm.. and a 60 mm flange



The P-kat-006/3 has a bigger flange 65mm

Yeah its hard to believe just one site especially in an Asian language so I will usually double check on a few sites to make sure, both the numbers I listed above will work, 006/1 & 006/3 = 58mmOD

I found this youtube video, I have seen the video before but now I recognize the bike, yours should sound the same>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h6m2RPbGIA

I have been in contact with them ,that's the reason why I'm having this exhaust now.
They are very friendly and helpfull.

But the 006/3 Kat has a bigger flance so I'm not sure if ot fits..

Yeah I mentioned the 006/1 would be a better option, the 006/3 would just need the extra lip skimmed down to make it fit, not a big worry

Thinking about the clearance as you mentioned, I joined pics to compare them both, gives us a bit of an idea but without physically having the bikes side by side its pretty much guessing, as mentioned both the S1000RR & ZX10R muffler body's are 190mm long & the shell for both is the exact same part number (I looked them up in the diagrams)
I prefer the S1000RR though purely for the internal & inlet size which makes fitting much easier, I am going to sacrifice a Mivv link pipe to make fitting easier
Unfortunately the S1000RR muffler is a bit more expensive than the ZX10R, gotta find a good used bargain

Looking at the pic the bends on the ZX10R muffler setup look to hang down in one spot but overall I think they would both be fine

I think they both look good! it would be a hard choice just on looks alone

Ok,I will keep my eyes open for your S1000R muffler,and I will try to fine a 006/1 kat for my system .

Geee thats nice of you to offer to buy me a muffler, yeah they are pretty damn pricey too only because they are for a BMW, the near identical muffler for the ZX10R is quite a bit cheaper & there is another from Akrapovic also very similar for the Yamaha R6 part number S-Y6SO9-ASZ but again I am not sure of the internal & inlet dimensions, it does have a DB killer available & it is nearly half the price of the S1000RR Akrapovic muffler, funny how they can be a near identical item yet the pricing is lightyears apart??? looks like the reduced clamp section could be cut off the R6 muffler for a closer fit on the 1290 60mm link pipe?

A bit of a comparison of the 3>

R6 S-Y6SO9-ASZ

ZX10R S-K10SO7T-HASZ

S1000RR S-B10SO1-HASZ

I think the straight end of the R6 muffler is to long ,it will be coming to low to the ground.
Maybe you can check this website for a BMW muffler.They are going second hand for around 500€....

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-akrapovic-bmw/k0

P-KAT-005/4 is the one you will need then, it is 48mm, 200 cell hi flow, just what you need
(At the top of the list in my post above)
Also seems to be another one that is hard to find, I think it is mainly because they are 200 cell hi flow catalytic converters but I wouldnt use anything else other than the 200 cell cores, it will restrict it too much using the typical 400 cell cores I think

Found a other link with sizes....
https://www.partsworldshop.com/lightvie ... s_2014.pdf

Yeah I used that PDF to quote some of the sizes originally, its not real accurate though, the P-KAT-006/3 actually has a 62mm lip on it that is not shown on that PDF, the pics with the dimensions show more detail
I will have it sorted in a few weeks one way or another

Do you have any videos of yours with the ZX10R Akrapovic muffler fitted Yohammer?
Guessing it is pretty damn loud, you should be able to run it without the DB killer when you fit the catalytic converter hopefully?
I imagine it will be a big deep sound without the high pitch bark at high RPM

Just bought the 005/1 catalyst on moto24.de.It was the cheapest one I could find include shipping.
Now wait until I got it,I will make a video for you before and after installing the cat.

moto24 .de or .it? got a link?

They got one website for 5 countries.Here is a link from there website,in the right top corner you can change the country
http://www.moto24.org

Whereabouts are you actually from yohammer? how much was it incl shipping?
They have the one I need ( 006/1) too so it might be an option for me? depends on the conversion to Australian dollars?

Shipping to The Netherlands was 4,99€ with DHL.But wen you take a subscription on there e-mails you get a voucher
from 5€.So shipping was actually free for me..

Just received the Akra S1 muffler, waiting for the Mivv link pipe to arrive hopefully in the next few days
Should have a 006/3 catalytic converter on the way in the next few days also, couldnt get a 006/1 unfortunately

Mivv link pipe was thought to be MIA but all good, found it today
The catalytic converter has just been sent so it may be a week or 2 before I receive it

I am now on the lookout for a 58mm OD DB killer to suit the BMW S1000RR muffler???

Closest I have found that I actually like is the Arrow 11007db, it has a 58mm OD but it is a curved configuration so the bend will need cutting out & re-welding straight, no big deal though as I like the design, I think it will work well to quieten it down if need be, would be better to run it unrestricted without a DB killer & it may be quiet enough just with the cat fitted hopefully but I think it might be just a little bit too loud still, will find out very soon!

How are you going with yours yohammer? any news???

Little bit of progress today! Looking at the first ever OEM BMW S1000RR Akrapovic shorty muffler fitted on a 1290 Superduke

I cut the Mivv link pipe & found I had to make 2 small wedge cuts in the tube & re-weld it to correct the bend a little bit to get it sitting in the right spot, trimmed the carbon clamp cover to blend it in nicely with the little link pipe

I fired it up couldnt believe how awesome it sounds, very VERY deep sounding due to the 60mm ID muffler outlet, not as loud as I expected but it is still pretty damn loud, the catalytic converter might reduce the DB's down enough to not even worry about a DB killer in the end of the muffler....hopefully???
Very happy with it so far, have not had a chance to test ride it yet, would like to get the catalytic converter in first but I cant wait that long so I will see if I can get time tomorrow for a quick test ride, cant wait

That is the best looking I have seen, and it won't collect water, like others.

Thanks Harold
Being the black logo muffler it seems to blend in better for an almost factory look, there is not a lot of room to work with in terms of positioning the muffler, I aimed to have it as high as possible for clearance but I did not want it kicked up at the end of the muffler more so for looks (not a fan of the muffler pointing up into the air on any bike), I think the muffler position worked out great, it is higher than the factory cat so all good there + it simply flows with the lines of the bike too
The rain getting in is a good point I never really though about, I dont plan on leaving my bike parked in the rain at any time but you never know

Looping good,I'm also still waiting for my cat it's delayed from shipping.They didn't have it in stock.

I am not 100% sure if my cat has been sent either, I was told it "would" be sent, but I have not received a tracking number yet so until then......

Went for a bit of a ride today, all I can say is it is DAMN DEEP sounding, I gave it a bit on an on ramp onto a highway & holy jeebs it just sounded totally different, has a weird GP bike x almost Tron??? like sound like nothing else, it is a bit too loud, borderline obnoxiously loud but not too bad considering how short the muffler & overall exhaust is, I would not run it like that full time though
Want to hurry up & try the cat out, after riding today I think it will be just right with the cat fitted

I will take it for a ride this weekend if the rain stops falling down.Maybe I will notice the difference with more revs

Do you think btw there is a flow direction for the Cat? . There was no arrow on the Cat....

So I've read thru some of the posts and have a few exhaust questions as I'm looking around at SD_R's...

Akra slip on- is there a db killer installed? is it easy to remove and can you put it back in? I have a 950 Super enduro with dual akras and it has db killers that you can bolt in and out. mostly out.

I saw a bike the other day that had the Austin Racing ti headers, the Arrow de-cat mid pipe, and the Akra slip on. thoughts on how this might sound? Looking for mellow at low rpms (like leaving my neighborhood early in the morning) but a bit more growl at high rpms.

I also looked at a bike with Graves, but didn't hear it running. looked better than I thought it would.

Ideally would like the Akra full system but they are pricey. I want deeper than stock sound but would rather spend my money on suspension and tyres. bike will see a decent amount of track use.

Finally got around to doing a quick video, need to sort out the wind noise issue for on board ride videos, this will give you an idea of the sound anyway>>