latest 2013 SD spy shots

darko

darko

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/ ... uke-spies/

MCN got their hands on some photos... discuss!!!

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They're obviously going with a super compact tail section, I likey. I'm a little tossed up on the exhaust, but that should've been expected. Single side swinger? fook yeah bring it on!

The front looks unchanged, I suspect they're using the current generation side fairing winglet things as well as the headlight assembly.

Looks fairly compact overall, and the same style & seating position as we all know and love. I'm gettin excited!
nampus

nampus

And that makes three!
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I suspect the headlight unit is just for testing, the actual 2013 sd, will probably have a different mask.
I like the low exhaust, not a big fan of the single sided swingarm, I would've preferred a rc8 style swingarm.
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Schnauzer

Schnauzer

Wow, that looks 5h1t + the rear wheel is a Ducati five spoker.
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darko

darko

nobody posted a thread in this section, I checked!
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jmann

jmann

Still not convinced this bike is for real. Clearly, the engine is and maybe the SSS but the rest is probably just smoke and mirrors.
IMO the shape of the tank, seat, shrouds, headlight, wheels Etc are likely to be just stuff from the parts bin. KTM are not stupid.
They wouldn't let the cat out of the bag unless they wanted people to see it. Perhaps they are testing the reaction to the SSS?
Certainly, the exhaust system makes no sense at all even from a styling perspective - its cobbled. Is that exhaust held on by fencing wire?

I'm intrigued by the sharp flat angle of the front header. My guess is still that this bike is designed to wear different clothes on
different days.

I agree that the exhaust makes no sense. If KTM/Akropovic are listening then an underseat option for boy racers (remember "Ready to Race")
makes a lot of sense in terms of minimizing damage. In fact, even the current twin systems get easily damaged. That's why I've admired those
centralised underseat systems for a long time - despite the fact that they are no longer de rigueur.
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Joker

Joker

Looks tight and compact. I like it!
I'm a fan of the underseat exhausts, but an Akrapovic will fix that ugly pipe problem nicely...
Oh and a tail tidy is a must. Love the single side swinger tough...
boysie

boysie

Looks like a 690... Not sure if any of you have riden one? I didn’t like it as you cannot move back on the seat... Your just clamped in place, and the bars are uncomfortable. It also needs a tail section maybe RC8 style? rather then a scabby looking piece of plastic... Just my opinion –]
Grendel

Grendel

[quote="jambox"
It does bemuse as I thought one of the pros for a SSS was easy wheel change, but you'll now have to remove the exhaust as well [/quote]

I've never owned an SSS equipped bike, are you saying the axle doesn't slide out allowing you to remove the wheel without removing the exhaust?

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wizzzard

wizzzard

Where's the radiator, oil tank and battery?
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

i don't like the exhaust this way
Stratkat

Stratkat

You have to wonder where the oil tank has gone. Do you think KTM might be going down a traditional sump route?
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Exitman

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A cool concept for KTM:
jambox

jambox

^^^ Been discussed before, and it's nothing to do with KTM.
Exitman

Exitman

Right then, I'll go back to looking at naked pictures
Danny_Two

Danny_Two

Pretty sure that's the 690, looks way to small for something that's supposed to have a 1200cc lump.
darko

darko

SD for sure, look how crammed that engine looks in there.
Joker

Joker

Just noticed this on the German Motorrad Online. Looks like their saying it will be a 1190 Superduke instead of a 1290. Same photos tough.

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tripoddave

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What concerns me, looking at the SD pictures is the fork rake. Looks far too stable for me.
Are we in danger of KTM dumbing down the SD? Is it, in fact, just going to be an Austrian take on the Dorsaduro?
Prepare to be underwhelmed people.
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Colonel_Klinck

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More of the photos above...



Pig Benis

Pig Benis

That does look pretty bad ass Please KTM give us something that is bad ass. Not a larger version of the latest 690 Duke as that looks fooking shite
SDNerd

SDNerd

suzook Gladioli...!!!
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Crotchrockety

Crotchrockety

Its that hardcore it does not even need footpegs just some guys mock up, nice though it is.
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tripoddave

tripoddave

Can't stand the single sides swing arm... I hate them.

It's gotta top the duc street fighter... Is it getting traction control? ABS? Map selection?
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SDNerd

SDNerd

I posted this elsewhere but I spoke to some people from KTM at the WSBK at Silverstone last Sunday and they tell me that KTM will launch the new Superduke in 2014 not 2013 because they are launching two new models in 2013.
They told me they haven't settled on an engine spec yet but it is almost certain to be bigger than the RC8R.
They also told me there would be no 'dumbing down' that the SD would retain its original character of being a hard edged radical bike.
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omky756

omky756

OMG it would be amazing news if that turned out to be a 1190 SD. TBH I'd kinda given up hope though.
blb

blb

sounded sweet..!!!
I'm very curious now...
and hopeful....
41KS

41KS

If it is the Superduke then there's a bloody good chance it will be at the bike show here a couple weeks after!

Fingers crossed, can't wait to see it..
omky756

omky756

Somebody from somewhere heard that there will be Superduke R production planned for 2013. And not Superduke. Does it mean new bike or continuing with good old - who knows, even dealers are kept totally in the dark. Marketing tools are sharp and releasing or not releasing any info, and how it is done may influence further sales results dramatically.

I believe we will hear about the new bike for 2013 during this month.
jambox

jambox

I've already got my tickets for the
Long Beach show in December...
smackman

smackman

The new Superduke will be shown at the EICMA
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jambox

jambox

That sounds like an smaller engine ... Looks like they will show Sd 1190 at eicma but it will not be for sale until 2014
Hope im wrong .
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41KS

41KS

It revs pretty damn quick whatever it is.
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jmann

jmann

I think the 1290 rumour was exactly that. KTM aren't going to build a 1290 engine for a SD. 1190 is plenty and they have it already developed. Most ADV riders already think 1190 is overkill so why would anyone want an even heavier 1290. 150bhp in a Adventure bike is more than they will ever need. I'm expecting a 160bhp 1190 SD/R. Just not sure when I expect it. Here's hoping its sometime 2013.
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

I hope we are right. I had given up hope TBH but this has got me raising at least a semi
41KS

41KS

KTM is well known and highly awarded company for its out of the frame marketing, advertising, design language. They are playing with your subconsciousness at the moment, so beware to be hypnotized before its any reason to be (exactly what they are doing is neuro-programming you all, by precisely targeted marketing scenario).

jmann

jmann

Ok. Tried to introduce a little science into this.

Took a few seconds of the engine at idle. Fed it it into a manipulation programme (Audacity) and slowed it down.
I could also see the sound spectrum. I'll put this up when Photobucket is back from maintenance.
When it is played at 1 tenth speed it sounds like a train over the gaps eg clicketty click, clicketty click Etc.
The sounds and the spectrum clearly shows 2 major pulses followed by a pause followed by 2 major pulses. Etc
I'm not a sound engineer so make of that what you will.
Interestingly, the spectrum also shows a series of little clicks between the major pulses which seems to number about eight.
Are these clicks the valves operating? Somebody else with a knowledge of sound might like to do the same and comment ...

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Davo-Singapore

Davo-Singapore

Two months ago I asked my dealer (who knows I am waiting for the new SDR) to give me a deal to think about for a new RC8R. He said no and suggested I hang on till after EICMA before making a decision. Just maybe he was doing me a favour... Fingers crossed.
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Crotchrockety

Crotchrockety

A prototype. Bummer. That explains why the exhaust is so loud.
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Schnauzer

Schnauzer

This is gonna kick asses!!!

But when is the real thing gonna be shown? Final product I mean.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

"At the EICMA show in Milan next week KTM are set to unveil a show-stealing prototype Naked Bike"

See the word "prototype" in the sentence? This ain't going to be forsale in 2013. The single swinger looks good, engine looks small for an 1190.
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Bert

Bert

Hmm not sure what to make of that. Very surprised at the 1290 so I'll take back my previous statement saying no way we will see a 1290. Going to be very interesting to see engine specs. Hard to put that sound clip to that engine. Not looking promising for a 2013 SD release though
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Will they be able to race a 1290 RC8R anywhere? Can't see them being allowed to race with 1ltr IL4s with that displacement.
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Diamonddog

Diamonddog

I'm ready Bert
fazer_1000

fazer_1000

fooking bullshit, ktm teases us like this. Just show me the damn thing already. I highly doubt it's even coming stateside, never mind to Canada. Tuesday seems so far away.
Stratkat

Stratkat

exactly!
cdlabate

cdlabate

Hmmmm...
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Millar

Millar

I'll reserve full judgement till I see proper pics.
I like the wheels and the general look, however the headlight area looks weird and I don't like the way the tank spoilers splay out rather than curving inwards like our current ones.
Superdan

Superdan

This must be the new Superduke, the speil is:

"At the EICMA show in Milan next week KTM are set to unveil a show-stealing prototype Naked Bike. The special creation boasts an engine unit bored to 1290cc, has ride-by-wire, a new frame and swingarm, super-fine WP suspension, trick wheels and a throaty roar that you can already hear on this Blog."

Sounds like everything the SD will be, it cant use all the same bits as the Adventure, this will be the prototype as stated but will dumb it down a little for the production version. Also looks a bit like the MCN superduke pics,

My thoughts anyway, best start saving
jambox

jambox

Don't know what it is about the pic with the rider, but to me it looks like the headlight unit was an afterthought/just plonked on. Hoping I'm wrong and it's just the shadow/angle in the pic.
Superdan

Superdan

It doesn't have an instrument cluster. That must mean there is a wireless micro projection unit you hook into your helmet and it projects the readings onto your visor.
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MrZ32

MrZ32

Just reposting pics so peeps don't have to jump back a page to see em. Did notice no orange shock spring

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DribbleDuke

DribbleDuke

man that bike looks good. .. hopefully there will be an underslung exhaust though. as one out the side does not appeal ratio me in the slightest. otherwise I would have to get a custom one made up.

and how awesome are the forks with the remote reservoirs!!!

I'm glad it comes out in a year and a bit as that is when I would be adding another bike to the stable. plus I donth mind being a bit late so they can iron out the issues with the new engine.

but as nerd said before. .. I hope it's not one of the tanks that warp as all fuels are turning to crap with ethanol
Stratkat

Stratkat

What do you suppose"special creation bored to 1290" means?
I'm supposing that this is not what the size of the over the counter bike will be.
Why would the say, bored to?
why not stroked to?
SDNerd

SDNerd

I think it looks really tough in those teaser pics! I agree with those that have mentioned the tank material though, if it's polyamide then I want nothing to do with it. I will say though that my coated replacement tank on my current SD just hit the one year mark and it's still perfectly shaped with no mumps whatsoever so there are options for dealing with the problem. But then who wants to pull the tank on a brand new bike to have it epoxy coated. Even if you went to the trouble to do it I'm sure you'd void your warranty.
SDNerd

SDNerd

they must have addressed it, i cant imagine theyd want to keep giving replacement tanks away plus the labour of installing them.
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

This is the same bike that MCN posted.Look closely at the subframe,tank shape and rad shrouds.Looked ugly then but with some color everything changes.This bike is going to kill!
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Colonel_Klinck

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Tried to have a better look with Photoshop, they have done a good job at disguising the bike.

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SDNerd

SDNerd

....oh dear.....I was hoping that I would not like it.............. here we go again
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MrZ32

MrZ32

the bike they show is just a prototype, the final version will not get all the goodies they show here, at least i do not believe that. That fork allone costs a fortune. The sound of the demo bike is also open Akra and no Airbox so has nothing to do with reality. At least they know how to get attention
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jambox

jambox

You seeing something I'm not?[/quote]
Look at the pic with the rider, then look at the end of the forks, just above the caliper [/quote]

LOL - don't think a production version of this bike is going to havens enclosed cartridge N2-charged reservoir forks. I'd be happy if WP could just get the valving right on a conventional cartridge fork. Then again, nothing stopping anyone from ringing up Ohlins or Showa and ordering up an SBK or MotoGP grade of forks for their SD. OK - except maybe the 5-figure price tag. [/quote]

I don't expect our to be ohlins... I'm hoping wp have made their own... adds to the whole beast thing
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fazer_1000

fazer_1000

Can't wait for tomorow and pics to start being posted up. We are expecting big things from you Diamonddog, don't you let us down!
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

^^^^THIS^^^^
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

fook me look at the GP style double exhaust system :drool: No wonder it sounded so bad ass!
Stratkat

Stratkat

so much for the trepidation that is was going to follow the Diavel!
it makes the Diavel look like a sofa by comparison!!
fazer_1000

fazer_1000

I can't even see the R being that bad ass at the rear. I live in hope though
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Superdan

Superdan

I don't think it's a double exhaust, it looks like the OEM one goes under belly like the RC8 and they just left the hanger or something..
jmann

jmann

The pipes look amazingly small diameter to me. It's not a triple is It?
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

that really would be out of leftfield
Superdan

Superdan

4 posts in on this page and no picture of an unveiled or veiled superduke? What's going on?!
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Sorry Dan I dropped the ball there

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Superdan

Superdan

Better I have never yearned after a new bike..... Till now, looks like that duke 125 prototype on steroids.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

If it looks half as bad ass as that thing looks like its going to be and has 165+hp I might get sucked into buying a brand new one as well. Come on KTM don't let us down!
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Are you there yet Diamonddog? I hope you camped outside the venue last night and are first in that queue No pressure but just don't let us down
Davo-Singapore

Davo-Singapore

Ello ello. Come on guys lets have it....
jmann

jmann

By reckoning it's 9:08 in Milan. So where are the photographs?

Surely we don't have to wait till the 1:00pm session.
stel_0

stel_0

Well it's called 1290 SuperDuke R already!

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Really looking forward for the whole image.
jmann

jmann

If they are branding it a Super Duke R 1290 then it's a bit more than a prototype surely???
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Schnauzer

Schnauzer

I think the press conference is in about an hour.
SuperHoon

SuperHoon

Not the 1290, but a steer on their new design direction:
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Bert

Bert

surely we cant be too far from seeing what it looks like!!
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motoronin

motoronin

its stunning!
its got enough of the originals DNA to still keep it a SD.
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Superdan

Superdan

Omg I just shot my load!!
MADDOG53

MADDOG53

Pure sex, I soooooooooooo want.
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Stratkat

Stratkat

if they keep the exhaust like that it will be one of the first production motorcycles with a full access rear wheel!
(er... i forgot about the 916...)
i just love KTM design, they hit it out of the park everytime. nothing else comes close to my eye.

now im gonna have to figure out how to afford it, sigh...
whats the resale on a fully stock black tuxedo cat with low mileage?...
stel_0

stel_0

sooo massive
MADDOG53

MADDOG53

Ya ,,,where's the "road going" version,,,
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Text from the PDF Marco_RSA posted:

PROTOTYPE KTM 1290 SUPER DUKE R – EICMA 2012

Before glimpsing the fascinating future of the Super Duke, a short flashback: in 2005, the first pure street twin with the name Super Duke rolls out of the KTM halls and changes the world of motorcycles. Extremely agile and muscular, the bike lives up to its name – an unmistakable machine, with an aggressive sound, a bike to fit no pre-conceived notions and keeping out of no competitor’s way. Over the years, the Super Duke gets even hotter. Its power increases – as does its fan community.

The success of this uniquely dynamic motorbike confirms the veracity of KTM’s commitment to the Naked Bike, opening the door for further models. The merciless street fighter becomes the leader of a veritable pack of exhilarating bikes – all of them light, pure, top quality, and all without fairings. In 2011, KTM hits the bull’s eye of the small displacement segment with the 125 Duke. Almost 10,000 motorcyclists hop up, by no means just beginners. Just a year later, KTM stages another energetic escalation with the upgraded entry-level version 200 Duke, and puts the latest LC4 generation of the 690 Duke onto the grid – with well-known ingredients for maximum riding fun; with plenty of Single thrust at minimal weight; but also with more practicality, thanks to Drive-by-Wire and ABS. Another year later, there comes the athletic 690 Duke R, while at the same time, the brand new 390 Duke makes ready – a reasonable fun bike that will bring incredible enjoyment to riders all over the world.

Everything possible
So far, so good: 125, 200, 390, 690 and 990 cubic centimetres. But things don’t need to end there, even if nobody can make a case for more displacement purely based on rational considerations. Rather, it’s about enjoying power in abundance, about crazy acceleration, about tyres screaming for mercy, about pushing the limits of physics. Out of passion for the world of extremes. The world of KTM. The world of the new Super Duke.

Super Duke Onepointthree
At the EICMA 2012, KTM showcases the prototype of the future 1290 Super Duke R – a machine whose entrance needs no explanation and which shouts the very essence of the KTM philosophy unfiltered into the world’s face through two open megaphones. The creators of this concept are not about complying with regulations and legal provisions. They are about showing what happens when the best technicians, designers and riders are unleashed in Mattighofen.

The developers started with another hefty rebore of the RC8 R engine in order to give it maximum punch. Around this two-cylinder elemental force, they fitted a tight suit tailored from light steel pipes, completing the chassis with a single-sided swing arm and the finest suspension components from the WP Suspension prototype development, as well as racing wheels, racing brakes and racing tyres. To this they added the finest carbon parts, countless working hours, and spilled sweat by the bucket. More sweat, more commitment, then finally, cheers. Job done. Rollout in Milan.

Wide open throttle
The best news comes last: KTM is already working on the production version of the 1290 Super Duke R, with that same enthusiasm. A good reason to look forward to 2013 – to the first press testride on the new Super Duke R.

The specifications
- Engine: liquid cooled V-twin based on RC8 R with Drive-by-Wire
- Displacement: more than ever
- Power and torque: very, very much
- Electronic assistants: ABS and traction control – stoppie and wheelie protection disengageable (of course)
- Top speed: depends on the rider’s courage and figure
- Frame: Trellis frame made of chrome molybdenum steel
- Swing arm: single sided aluminium swing arm
- Suspension components: WP prototypes – upside-down forks with gas pressure reservoir, directly linked rear shock
- Wheels and tyres: aluminium wheels with slicks
- Brakes: front and rear Brembo racing callipers
- Weight: incredibly low
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Bert

Bert

Very nice, and very KTM!