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Riding better with the rear brake

18 posts · Started by Hotbrakes · 09 Nov 2011

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Thought I'd pass along a braking discovery I found a couple weeks ago after taking a road racing orientated dirt bike course. I knew of Stoner using his rear brake a lot and I've now figured out what he uses it for.

In this course we were riding mini dirtbikes and using all 5 controls (throttle, front brake, rear brake, clutch, and gear shift) all the time was the basis of the teaching and strictly enforced. Riding the bikes down 30' of 2x4 wood allowed me to discover the control and stability provided by dragging the rear brake. It's not just for slowing down or sliding the rear around.

After the class I began applying the rear brake while riding the SD on the street. Just a light drag smooths acceleration and low speed stability when crawling in traffic. And with practice I began using it to control entry speed into turns and acceleration on exit. Before I would roll off, apply the front brake, possibly downshift, enter the turn, and delicately roll the throttle back on. Using the rear brake I am able to stay on the gas entering, using the rear brake to control the speed and then, after apexing, use the brake to gradually release the power and acceleration. The benefit? There is no jerking or unsettling of the suspension or rear wheel traction when transitioning from off throttle to acceleration. The inertia from the rear wheel and drive train is essentially negated which prevents excessive wheel spin and uncontrolled loss of traction, basically manual traction control. My line can also be changed mid-corner without rolling off the throttle which minimizes weight transfer to the front and unsettling the suspension.

For many this is probably too advanced to completely understand and apply. But on an aggressive ride on good twisty roads the increased control is astonishing. I attempted this at the track on the race bike but without much practice and foot clearance/leg position issues I was not able to apply the technique with confidence.

Hope this helps.
i agree. its funny i started playing with my rear brake in parking lots trying to turn tighter with more finesse. we also have a stretch of road here with maybe 6 - 4 way stops in a row. and i find it easier to balance at a stop with my feet on the pegs using the back brake and loading it with the throttle & clutch. been using it on really tight slow speed turns as well.
If you had asked me 5 years ago if I used the rear brake ...I would have said yes a bit

When I started to teach the mrs how to ride...I had to evaluate what I did (as it was so automatic) so I could explain to her....thats when I realised the faster I went the more I used the rear brake on corner entry to right up to the Apex.....as it lifts the rear and helps turn in (easy to prove ...ride up to the lights and use back brake and front brake ..hold the rear brake lever down until stopped...then release the back will drop down a couple of inches.....
and that's the reason i feel more confortable going left turns then right turns...i guess
i read somewhere..kieth code i think ...that corner preference is down to our subconcious remembering a bad incident in a specific corner leaving us with a built in fear factor to that direction of turn...could be the reason, it does seem like a hidden thing to me but definatly there.
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probably, altough my worst near accident was on a lefthander...

maybe, but the rear brake possibility on the left hander sooths me when in doubt about a corner
I use the rear brake a lot - for lots of reasons - I think most people do ???? if not they are missing something pretty vital
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great tip! also works a charm for making sharp low speed turns in parking lots at full bar lock.

I have trouble using the rear brake in right turns at speed, however....hard to get my foot over the lever, apply smooth brake action while also staying planted on the peg. More practice I spose
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Cut the crap!

Rear brake is there. If it was uneccesary it wouldn't be there?

Front.Quickly followed by a little rear. Settles bike.

Depending on how deep you are into corner. Rear will tighten.

That's it!

Old school.

SDs are Old school.

More rear. More oversteer. You can run deeper and "Square the corner".

As for modulation and "Smoothing acceloration" Yes it will.

If you want to win SB/MotoGP races.

But on street?

Best used to control those "Wheelie Moments".

Cheers
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Sorry.

Thought it was an SD.
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