Spinning the 1290 on the kickstand

Of the 16 motorbikes I've owned in the 8 years, my 05 600RR was hands down the best balanced around the kickstand - that is to say, the easiest one to pull the bike's weight onto, and spin around with minimum effort. My 08 990 was fairly front heavy, but getting it around was do-able with only a small amount of fighting. (I should note that this is not something I do with any regularity, but it does make getting the bike into and out of tighter spaces (read: storage) a lot easier.)

For those of you who have the 1290 already, have any of you tried spinning it on the kickstand yet? Easy? Hard? Compared to the 990?

I bet when you were a kid you use to hang on the door knobs and swing a free ride.

Same as kitchen cabinet doors...

And another one...open the drawers and use them as steps so you can get into the tall cabinets.

Better be checking out the hardware prices / availably on the wear items.

I like the way Burt turned his bike around.

He was straddling his bike, picked the whole bike up by the frame, spun 180 and Bobs your Uncle.

No cos the kick stand feels like it's 1/2" too long and keeps the bike very vertical. It's also got a fair bit of flex in it, nowhere near as rigid as the one on my previous CB1000R.

I'd let you know but then I don't plan on stressing the metal of the very thing that holds my 25k motorcycle off the ground when it's out and about and not on the paddock stand.

Not really. The kick stand isnt the best if you ask me, it'll hold I lean them all the way over all the time but it's a struggle. I have to do it to many bikes a day at work and moving the 1290 around is never the easiest. Stand should have been like the 690 Duke R which is awesome. The RC8R isn't the best either but the 1290 is easier than that.

Somewhat related: Have any of you 1290 owners filled up the tank, and weighed "The Beast" yet?

Be nice to have an accurate idea of what the CURB weight of the 1290 is, before you all go bonkers on mods.

Be nicer still if more than one person measured it (market specific equipment effects - ?).

I would trust your guys' measurements more than I do anything I've seen published.

no point in , carbon this , carbon that if the rider is a lard arse , you would be better off losing weight yourself !!!

I tryed the bike on a weight today. It showed 0,21tons! Between 210-219kg fully fueled.
I have not tryed to spin the bike on the kickstand, but my previous bikes had no problem with this.

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

I've not gandered at one in person, and the pictures didn't give that much of an indication of how rigid the side stand might be or how much flex is in it.

Thanks for the intel Olden and RiderGary.

Olden's numbers are right in line with MCN's - and seems about right.

I'd like 190kg when I'm done. Looks to be very possible.

Ive seen people do this but have never been in a situation where I've needed to. Seems to be something the stunt generation identifies with.
Closest I've come is needing to lube the chain on my 900RR on a 1800 mile trip. I'd throw my jacket on the tank and lean it on the side stand and the front wheel till the tank contacted a pole or tree, when it was balanced right, I'd lube the chain.

This is the first bike I have had in a while with a kick stand . Can't wait to get home now .

Never thought of lifting the entire weight of the bike on a stand designed only to support the bike when parking

I simply sit on it and push it backwards

I guess if you had to squeeze it into a tight area to store over winter it might help,but other than that it sounds a little silly to put that sort of stress on the small bolt that holds the stand on......can't see anyone being very happy when you walk away and as you get a couple of metres away it lets go and your bike is left laying on the floor

Same as sitting on bike when on stand......bit of a silly thing to do, there is only a small bolt taking the load, not what it is designed to do

It's actually not silly at all.

Edit: I challenge you to find accounts of peoples stands actually breaking (and you can't include the ducati's that have their stands attached to their engine cases; not the same thing) because I can provide you with endless links to people doing it without issues.

At the end of the day all it comes down to is 10+ seconds of convenience saved. If you're too scared to do it, it's not that big of a deal. But please don't act like it's something that shouldn't be done.

On the same Honda '96 XR400R I posted about...it took a bit to get the drill down starting a cold 4 stroke coming from a 2 stroke 430 Husky.
Me being short legged, I was starting the bike with the kick stand down and me on the pegs to get up high e-nuf to get some weight b-hind the kick.
I was at a Dual Sport meet kicking it on the side stand in the cold am trying to warm it up. A guy came running over to me. WTF....just about that time, I felt my bike starting to lean over to the side..another WTF....I ripped the kick stand mount right out of the frame. WTF..the guy who was running over to me, stopped and and went back to where he came without saying a word to me. He was trying to warn me...but too late. I reached down and ripped the stand the rest of the way off the bike and threw it in the back of my pick up. Completed the event without a stand.
Same bike, at a ISDE qualifier near Bend Oregon....very cold am dead start from over night impound..KIcked my ass off trying to start that cold beast......finally started in my time allowed but what a way to start a race.
Got that 4 stroke starting routine down now tho....

I guess I am just a bit of a dickhead.

Still, it is not "something that should not be done" just because it is not covered under warranty

It clearly states in the user manual to not sit on the bike while it is on the kickstand as it can reduce it's integrity and cause it to fail. I can imagine spinning the bike on its kickstand is 100x worse than sitting on it while it's down.

,Like I said, dont do it if youre scared. Ill keep on doing it like I have been for years, just like a shitload of others without fail.,

Dammit! The first ever proof and I can't see it because of TapaTalk!!
I believe ya mate, well done. I'm also a kickstand spinner, but not on the SD as much as it feels a little off balance and I have heaps of room.
But I don't flinch if I have to.

Geez, that's a handy thing to learn about stand spinning after all those years of picking my bike up in a bear hug and carrying it around!
I'll give it a try next time I get a chance, I imagine it will work well on the 1290 as it has a terrific centred balance when riding.
Stand length is slightly long so you just need to give it a bit more thought when parking up on uneven areas.
Definitely not as tricky as the 1190 which has a ridiculously short stand and with full panniers on sometimes was a two man operation - one on the bike another looking for that special shaped rock to put under the stand foot.

Interesting debate to read through. Not sure where I stand- open minded I think.

In thirty five years I have never found the need to make my bike do a 360 turn on the spot, somehow I have always managed doing some sort of turn or just wheeling the bike backwards a bit.

Also, I am not an engineer but as a designer I rely on a sort of intuitive engineering feel inside based on decades of making things and seeing them either fail and break or prove over engineered. My mechanical sensitivity pretty much winces with pain when I imagine what is happening down on the kickstand pivot when you do this maneuver. It's not that I'd be scared, just mechanical sympathy would deter me.

But, I am intrigued so will have a go today.

Well.....you discover something new everyday!

I had a go and it's really easy to do. Even with my clip-on bars, you just lean the bike more onto the stand and it balances, then you turn round.

I had quite a few looks at what happens round the stand. I will say that there is quite a bit of flex going on down there as the bike's weight is taken right through the stand and pivot and the mounting block and the geometry is not good so there is a lot of stress put through these points. It's not great and I would guess if you did it a lot you risk some more wear or potential break.

But for infrequent use in a tight spot it's very useful to know about.

Thanks. (Don't say I'm too old or stuck in my ways not to admit to learning new stuff!)

365 X 35 = 12775. one million times requires over 78 times a day, every day and 79 times every other sunday for the whole of the 35 years. My guess is Strat should try it once and then skip the 999,999 more.
Snap judgements?

i have done it once

You lot. You crack me up. You all argue about the slightest thing and take offence at the slightest remark.

Tell you what. I fooking hate the new generation of chucks on electric power drills. They don't have a chuck key, they have a plastic collar that is designed to clamp the drill in position by hand torque only. And seem to work OK, mostly.(except when you are drilling large holes or masonry when they fail completely). But it's a lot quicker and easier to do the chuck up if you apply power to the drill and then quickly grip the chuck to clamp the drill. There are drawbacks in that it can hurt your hand if you don't judge the speed and you'll get friction burns. And it does not recommend this in the manual. And it probably invalidates warranty and claims for damages. And would break health and safety regs. In fact I'm sure the manufacturers would actively say one shouldn't do it. But anyone with a drill like this learns that it is the most expedient way to tighten a drill in the fooking chuck. And that's what they do.

This thread is like this.

Prop stand is designed to support the weight of the bike on it's side, not to support a rider or spinning the bike. Some owners have found that it is possible to spin the bike around if necessary although it it not what the stand was intended for.

A discussion about the pros and cons of this has been aired on the forum.

Each to his own.

I suggest the ones that haven't done it.... have a go. And the ones that do it... carry on.

I, personally will put it in my list of, "Things I can do when I need to do it but not do it all the time because it doesn't feel quite mechanically sympathetic" list.