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TuneECU... wtf?
87 posts · Started by MrZ32 · 23 Oct 2010
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Post 4 by BASH69,
#4OK, i had a gooood read through the Technical post and it seems straight forward, so ive orderd the cables ( a whole £25 ) - this will give me something to do over winter
Post 5 by Colonel_Klinck,
#5You know what I'm very very tempted by this. Seriously going to have a look at it over next few weeks and then maybe give it a go. Could then sell the PCIII and free up some dosh for other stuff
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Post 13 by Imageseekr,
#13I am with you Ktmguy. The mods are not always about power for the sake of power. There seems to be holes in the SD mapping and adding pipes and the Akro Map did not fix the most obvious one on my bike.
The most obvious on my bike is between 3500 and 4000 RPM which happens to be the RPM used for driving through residential neighborhoods. The jerk and pause that happens at these RPMs is obnoxious and annoying. I verified that this phenomena was not just limited to my ride. Several other SD'r have verified that this exists on thier rides as well. Who knows what is really going on. I have read that this is the RPMs where the system transitions from closed to open loop. Who knows???
I could change the sprockets and cams on the throttle to try and smooth out the jerk or change the RPMs used to cruise at 25MPH, but neither of those fix the hole. I am going to try and do this. Rest assured that anything I find while on my adventure to find SD Nivarna will be share with the rest of the group.(forum)
The most obvious on my bike is between 3500 and 4000 RPM which happens to be the RPM used for driving through residential neighborhoods. The jerk and pause that happens at these RPMs is obnoxious and annoying. I verified that this phenomena was not just limited to my ride. Several other SD'r have verified that this exists on thier rides as well. Who knows what is really going on. I have read that this is the RPMs where the system transitions from closed to open loop. Who knows???
I could change the sprockets and cams on the throttle to try and smooth out the jerk or change the RPMs used to cruise at 25MPH, but neither of those fix the hole. I am going to try and do this. Rest assured that anything I find while on my adventure to find SD Nivarna will be share with the rest of the group.(forum)
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Post 42 by Imageseekr,
#42@chris2 near the fuse box under the sadle. The bike doesn't have an actual OBD2 plug, you need to make some kind of an adapter cable. Take a look over here;
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Post 54 by MrZ32,
#54Z32 thanks for the offer mate but I think I would end up getting lost going up there LOL!!
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Post 65 by BASH69,
#65OK, cables turned up today so got busy with the crimpers -
Plugged it into laptop, Vista bloody took over and downloaded the drivers automatically which i couldnt cancel This wooried me but luckly the cable still worked
So connection made, TuneECU converts to KTM graphic (so much nicer than the Trumph graphic ) and off you go
Didnt get any time to mess but grabbed the map out of my ECU and cleared some error codes off
If i can do this anybody should be able to do it! I havnt tried it with the bike running yet but as soon as the bike is back in 1 peice is shall get to it
Plugged it into laptop, Vista bloody took over and downloaded the drivers automatically which i couldnt cancel This wooried me but luckly the cable still worked
So connection made, TuneECU converts to KTM graphic (so much nicer than the Trumph graphic ) and off you go
Didnt get any time to mess but grabbed the map out of my ECU and cleared some error codes off
If i can do this anybody should be able to do it! I havnt tried it with the bike running yet but as soon as the bike is back in 1 peice is shall get to it
Post 66 by Colonel_Klinck,
#66looks like I sold my PCIII just before the market's about to be flooded with 'em....
if Stew can do it, I'll get round to it sometime over winter
if Stew can do it, I'll get round to it sometime over winter
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Post 69 by Colonel_Klinck,
#69Am I being a dufus? Just I can't see from this diagram how you know which 3 wires are 16, 7 and 4 from the black cable??
Post 70 by samba,
#70parts ordered....
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Post 72 by Bert,
#72Klinck, I guess you want to know which color from the black plug goes where?
You'll have to use a multimeter to verify what color the wire on position 4, 7 and 16 have.
The multimeter should be in "Ohm" setting. The display should read "OL".
Put a paperclip in the plug, put one lead from the multimeter on the paperclip and the other lead on the wire. Now try the different wires. When the display changes to "0.00" you have found the wire.
If the OBD plug you got only has the 3 wires and they are black, yellow/orange and red there is a 95% chance that 4 = black, 7=yellow/orange and 16 = red.
Hope this helps.
EDIT... shouldn't we be having this discussion in ?
You'll have to use a multimeter to verify what color the wire on position 4, 7 and 16 have.
The multimeter should be in "Ohm" setting. The display should read "OL".
Put a paperclip in the plug, put one lead from the multimeter on the paperclip and the other lead on the wire. Now try the different wires. When the display changes to "0.00" you have found the wire.
If the OBD plug you got only has the 3 wires and they are black, yellow/orange and red there is a 95% chance that 4 = black, 7=yellow/orange and 16 = red.
Hope this helps.
EDIT... shouldn't we be having this discussion in ?
Post 73 by MrZ32,
#73klink, the OBD2 is in the shape of a trapezoid (just not in your shown pic)
the fat end contains (botom of trapezoid) (from left to right while looking into it like in you pic) 8 to 1, the top end (thinner end) is 16 to 9 (left to right).
I chopped the other end of and used a volt meter to find which cable was which.
the fat end contains (botom of trapezoid) (from left to right while looking into it like in you pic) 8 to 1, the top end (thinner end) is 16 to 9 (left to right).
I chopped the other end of and used a volt meter to find which cable was which.
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Post 76 by Overshot,
#76Klick I guess what they are not saying is you use a meter to find out which wires go to those pins.
Does that help?
Does that help?
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Post 84 by Colonel_Klinck,
#84ok i now have the 06 model converted to 08 (this is the initial akra map, no other mods, you will have to add klinks pc111 map if you want motobox) the only thing that I have not changed from the 08 is the idle speed as the 06 idles at 1900 rpm not 1600
pm me ur email address if you want to try it
remember, this will make your bike very responsive, like adding a quick throttle so if you want smooth and doughy dont use it
FOR EU MODELS ONLY... american fuel will cause detonation!!!!!!!
pm me ur email address if you want to try it
remember, this will make your bike very responsive, like adding a quick throttle so if you want smooth and doughy dont use it
FOR EU MODELS ONLY... american fuel will cause detonation!!!!!!!
Post 85 by Bamm-Bamm,
#85Nice work dude
My cables are finally going to arrive today so I can hopefully get the bike plugged in tomorrow. No idea which akra map the bike is running. I've always said to KTM Centre not to update the map when she went in for valve check, as that would potentially throw out fueling of my custom map. I can almost guarantee they ignored this though If only we had had this software then I could have checked all this shit after and corrected it if they had. If I had the dosh I'd be tempted to get a dyno tweak done but I'm brasic Unless I can get him to work with TuneECU in which case I could throw the money from PCIII sale at it.
My cables are finally going to arrive today so I can hopefully get the bike plugged in tomorrow. No idea which akra map the bike is running. I've always said to KTM Centre not to update the map when she went in for valve check, as that would potentially throw out fueling of my custom map. I can almost guarantee they ignored this though If only we had had this software then I could have checked all this shit after and corrected it if they had. If I had the dosh I'd be tempted to get a dyno tweak done but I'm brasic Unless I can get him to work with TuneECU in which case I could throw the money from PCIII sale at it.
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