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Wheelie school; less talk - more action.

67 posts · Started by ShadeTheChangingMan · 10 Aug 2010

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Post 1 by ShadeTheChangingMan,

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Right, after 2/3 summers bleating on about going i am finally doing it, alone or not.

It's £160 each,no discount for groups. Who's with me? I want to book this very soon (within a week) so once we have dates decided I've got to book it off work too

So far the dates they have given me are:

Augusts 17 (3 spacesl left), 19 (1 space left), 23-27 all days free, Sept 2, 3, 6, 10th.

Don't ask me any questions about the school....I only know what's on their website. Just tell me if you are coming along and then we can book it up.

Max 6 people per day.


Woop!!

Post 2 by weeksy,

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Been and done it with them, one of the best biking afternoons of my life

Hysterical fun with a bunch of lads who know eachother

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Post 4 by Dutch,

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I've been on Paul Gowers school and it was superb.

We were very lucky to have him do a one-off, "wheelie your own bike" day... instead of the usual bandit 1200s...

My one comment is that learning to wheelie is kinda linked to what kind of bike you have. I can wheelie a KTM supermoto no problem, but doing the same thing on a Superduke is something I usually do by accident over humps or overtaking...

Not sure I'd want to learn again on a 1200 multi...?

I'd love to do wheelie school on my superduke tho.

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Post 26 by Colonel_Klinck,

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I know what you mean shadowman, I feel safer on the R when it lofts up at speed rather than slow. It is more stable and it comes up nice n calmly...it's just me that isn't calm!

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Post 32 by Colonel_Klinck,

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i'll jump straight into this action cause its one of the reasons i bought a SD990........

This is a sit down wheelie, clutching up from 2nd gear, then shifting through the box under power. Standard bike no mods.

I wasnt trying to hold a constant speed at the time. To do that i like to use 3rd gear at about 90/100 k/ph stand up using the clutch. Can carry a wheelie at that speed for pretty much as long as i like provided there is enough road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVV4bPGtYac

Disclaimer: This was done on a private road ......honest

Post 33 by Dutch,

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Sweet wheelie dude

Sabre loves a wheelie off the clutch, which if you ever ride roads with him you soon find out, as he comes hooning past you on his rear wheel

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Post 37 by Stratkat,

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2nd gear about 4k rpm roughly 40mph,pull in the clutch give it a bit more throttle as you feed the clutch out at the same time giving it a gentle tug on the bar's. Your bike should gentley beggin to rise as your speed builds,control it on the throttle and you'll be able feel the balance point as it goes really light...."warning" it's best not to go beyond this point.

It all sounds simple,and it is a good throttle hand and a bit of confidence and loads of practice and you'll master it. It does'nt have to be a violent procedure,but if you prefer to dump the clutch instead of feeding it out be warned that on cold tyre's you'll just spin up,so expect some sideways movement.

I'm definately no wheelie pro but i'm willing to show anyone on ride out's how i do it. Exiting roundabouts it's just gotta be done onlooker's no doubt think,look at that twat but i'm doing it for myself as i enjoy it

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Post 44 by Dutch,

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+1 slow first gear wheelies are harder to master - not recommended for beginners

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Post 50 by Dutch,

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Said I would post an update on my previous post after another ride which I managed on Wednesday so here goes. I had never really thought about it a lot before but I paid attention this time and this is what I found easiest and most fun.

This is my first twin for a long time and it does make a difference to the feel compared to a four but essentialy everything works the same way.

Get to something like 3 - 4K in second, pull in the clutch just enough for it to slip, hammer the throttle and as the revs pass 7Kish let the clutch back out quickly. The wheel will float up, if you freak at any stage shutting the throttle slams it back down pronto. Forget the back brake, not necessary on this twin and just one more thing to worry about when you are already trying to get used to the new technique.

Things to ensure before doing this. Sit upright on the bike and make sure you are not hanging off one side at all as this will make the bike lean which you don't want. relax your arms, don't pull at the bars and don't lean forward or back. In fact the less you do the better the bike will behave.

First few times it may not work and the probable causes will be too shy with the throttle or to slow letting the clutch back in. Some people have said feed it back in but I more or less dump it and that seems to work well. Its like riding over bumps on dirt, the faster you go at them the smoother it feels.

Once you have done a few try starting with you foot under the gear lever. Apply a little upwards pressure and the moment you relax the throttle it will change into third with the wheel still up but probably on the way down. Full throttle makes for a smooth landing

I'm no expert but this worked for me on the SD. happy to answer any questions and also if you watch the vid posted in this thread you can see it working in action. He is much better than me!!

Post 51 by MB990,

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Great description shadowman... Exactly what we needed I reckon...

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Post 61 by Willh,

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Wheelies needs practice and more practice. It's best to learn it wright from the start: second gear and with clutch.

And after a while you grow confidence and you'll start making progres

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Post 67 by bic_bicknell,

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Just a few little ones all with clutch in 2nd, my sd is 16 up front and 41 rear, and the gsxr fighter is runnin a 50 on the rear

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