.HEX Maps for TuneECU and Custom PCIII Maps Downloads

Guys I have finally got my lazy arse into gear and uploaded all the TuneECU maps to DropBox. They should all be working correctly but please check file name of map against what you wanted before installing with TuneECU. Remember I do like a joint or 3 and although I wasn't high when I uploaded these maps I can't be held responsible if I have fooked up and uploaded the wrong map to the wrong title. All maps have the correct name in the file you download so just check that first please.

Cheers

Klinck

This sticky is for listing .hex maps and PCIII maps for use with TuneECU. Please give info of exactly what maps the bike is from/for. ie year, UK/Europe, US, Aussie ect. Mods such as Cans, Air Filter/Motobox and if it is a Akra map or standard map loaded in ECU. That is an important point!

For the .hex maps, is it is combined with a custom PCIII map. Individual cylinders ect. You get the idea. The more info on the map the better.
Remember though that you are downloading and using a map at your own risk!

Please keep talk of TuneECU to the Offical TuneECU thread.

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SD_Throttle_Bodies_Diagram&systems PDF (courtesy of MrZ32)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... 1-0001.pdf

PCIII Maps

My custom PCIII map
06 UK SD, Akra map, Motobox, Akra slip-ons, O2 Eliminators, NOT individual cylinders.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... OTOBOX.djm

05SD_LeoVinceSBK_dbkiller.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... killer.djm

05SD_StandardExhaust.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... xhaust.djm

05SD_uk_akra_DBkillers.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... illers.djm

05SD_uk_akra_no_dbkillers.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... illers.djm

06SD Klinck_FullAkra_Moto_NoFlys_NoDBs
(this map was made with this map installed in ECU KM610AE0503D01Map.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... 281%29.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... _NoDBs.djm

06SD Klinck_FullAkra_Moto_NoFlys_DBsIn.djm
(this map was made with this map installed in ECU KM610AE0503D01Map.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... 281%29.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... _DBsIn.djm

06SD_motobox_filter_akra_no_dbkiller.djm (courtesy of Klinck)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86688880/06SD_ ... killer.djm

05SD KTM66, Akra slip ons, SAS Removed, Flies and Shaft Removed, Motobox.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... otobox.djm

07sd_euro_akra_no_dbkiller.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... killer.djm

07sd_uk_akra_dbkillers.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... illers.djm

07SDR_AkraEvoSlip_Motobox_SBV_StockECU.DJM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... ockECU.DJM

08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB
08US_SD_MB_2ND_FLYS_REM_FMFApex_NoDB.djm

08sdr_uk_akra_dbkill_snorkel_removed.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... emoved.djm

08SDR_uk_akra_dbkillers.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... illers.djm

08SDR_UK_MHBox+Flies_AkraSlip_NoDB_AkraECU.djm (Courtesy of Shadethechangingman)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... kraECU.djm

09SD_uk_AkraEvo-DNA_Akrabase.djm
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... vo-DNA.djm

09SD A-UK_Akra-Slip_MB_ArkaECU.DJM (courtesy of emuexport)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... rkaECU.DJM



.HEX Maps for upload to ECU with TUneECU.
note these maps are not standard KTM maps but either combined KTM and custom PCIII map or a KTM map customised with TuneECU on dyno.

These first maps are Akra maps that have been smoothed out by James aka MrZ32. They are the safest maps to use as there is no danger of them being lean. This is what he wrote about what has been done to the maps in another thread.

"I have left the akra fuelling alone but turned the o2sensors off, set the 2ndry flies to stay open always(for those that leave them in, but removing the altogether is best), I have also changed the f-l switchover so that the l map only runs at idle... 3-4K surging cured and lifting off the throttle doesn't quite have the same abruptness"

06 Akra smoothened
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

07+ EU SD Akra Smoothened
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

07+ US SD Akra Smoothened
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

08-10 EU SDR Akra Smoothened
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

08-10 US SDR Akra Smoothened
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

07-08 US SD speedmotorrad's map
- 08 US spec standard Superduke, FMF Apex exhausts, CPR intake, RC8 stacks, 2nd flies and shafts removed, SAS blocked off, O2 eliminator. My F-L switch values are modified, as is timing under 3500, bottom end is much smoother, most of the jerkiness removed, but still pulls like crazy, 121hp and 75.5 torque"
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vityja1fz1dw0 ... d.hex?dl=0


New!!

James has just sent me some smoothed out maps for standard SD/R. Here is what he wrote about them.

here are the standard maps that are now smoothened, this will make the newbs very happy.

The FL switchover can be applied to most maps with great results in smoothness but once a dyno tune map is created, you are going to have to be aware that the map was never designed to have these modifications applied.

You will notice that a lot of maps have a lean spot below 3k rpm because of the FL swichover and no matter how much tuning is done it wont accurately fix this because the ecu is reading two completely different maps under certain conditions. By changing the FL switchover, you are effectively causing the bike to only read off one map at any usable rpm (which your dyno tuner will thank you for later on) but will revert to the closed loop cycle at idle (to allow better running at idle).

06 SD standard smoothened.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

07 SD Euro standard smoothened.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

08 SD US standard smoothened.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

08 SDR Euro standard smoothened.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... thened.hex

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These maps are custom maps and as such were created for a specific bike on the dyno. They carry a risk as your bike, even if the same and with the same mods could run lean and you should be aware of this before using them.

06 SD,EU Klincks Map. Full Akra, Motobox, 2nd flys removed, baffles out. made 129hp on dyno
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... d_NoDB.hex

06 SD EU, Klincks Map. Full Akra, Motobox, 2nd flys removed, baffles in. made 127 on dyno
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... affles.hex

06 SD,EU Klincks Map. Full Akra, Motobox, 2nd flys removed, baffles out plus ignition advance (ignition advance added after dyno so no figures available)


06SD EU Bash's Map. Based on KTMs D03 Map. Akro round, No Baffles, Second Flies out, RC8 Inlets, Cooler plugs, CRG Box, Modified Breather, Ignition Advance but runs 95 fuel.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... ojex12.hex

07 SD, Motobox, Moto secondary files, SAS removed, 97-98 ron fuel. Rallsy's Map
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... ai_off.hex

08 SD GuysCustom most suited to aftermarket air filter (not airbox).hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... irbox_.hex

08 akra map with klinks pc111 map.hex (so Akra slip, Motobox, Hooligan SBV)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... 11_map.hex

08 SD Grim990 low alt.hex (need more info if possible please!)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... ow_alt.hex

08 SDGuysCustom possibly the best map for aftermarket pipes .hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... pipes_.hex

08 SD james' map for grim and motobox modified from rallsy's info.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... s_info.hex

05_06 Klinck_Moto_Akra_map.hex
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... 281%29.hex

08 SDR Shade fuel - Otto ignition - motobox - flies - pipes.hex (meant to be an awesome map)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... _pipes.hex

09SD_AkraEvo_MB_FliesRemoved.hex Nigel's map aka Fuel. (** this map has large amounts of ignition advance. This map is individualised for this bike only,and may not be suited for your bike even with the same mods. If any abnormal noise occurs, switch off immediately as detonation can grenade an engine or best case bend valves. Do not use with any sub standard fuel.
Race fuel recommended)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/866 ... emoved.hex

Links to cable parts UK
http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/00 ... _vag_com_/
http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/02 ... er_cable_/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Japanese-Sumitomo ... 230839fe0a

klink, if I send you some maps via email (what is your email if this is the case). Are you able to host these online somewhere?

yes it does work... better than the normal akra map but if you use good fuel try my one

guy,,, it is actually klinks pc111 map that i draped over an 08 akra map... it is pretty smooth and works well but our maps do work better... but if you didnt want to play with any advance settings that the klinks one would work.

I have used it and it ran better than the standard akra

but to make sure... it is the 08 klinks map... not the 06 one

We could really do with some 07 maps for TuneECU guys. if you have one please email it to me so it can be shared around.

With the latest version of TuneECU it's possible to export the table to a .txt file. I opened the map (i'm currently using) ''SD 08 james map' with excel and created a nice graphic art
Although the SD already rides like a mofo with this map , it seems like there are some improvements possible..... ?

What are the issues with this map then ( ref rides like a mofo ?)

my map is a richened version of guys map... but only richened at certain throttle inputs and RPM (guys map was too lean for my bike)

so yes I believe that there is a decent bit of improvement left in the mapping... including ignition (but will not touch this until i have a dyno with a knock sensor)

I will be going back to the akra map shortly (but keeping the ignition curve from my bike) as I am about to install my JTM (my initials) dual velocity stacks... once installed I am going to get a very, very comprehensive map made up for the bike... as in a whole day on the dyno getting it right.

so a run on my current map will be made before I install the DVS' to show you the performance gains... same day testing.

this map will be made available to those who get the dual velocity stacks (no point in using this map without the DVS'). (basically you will be getting DVS' and a map that fits for them)

LOL abreviations... from now on they are gonna be JTM DVS'.

thanks, can't wait for the ''JTM DVS''

08 SDR Shade fuel - Otto ignition - motobox - flies - pipes.hex map added. Thanks go to MrZ32

Whats Otto ignition mean dude?

I am curious about this and the ignition control of TuneEcu to see if I can get even more out of my map....is this whats happened here?

MrZ32 will explain it in great detail I'm sure but basically yes the ignition curve has been adjusted for more power. The advantage of TuneECu over PCIII. Or at least one of the advantages.

Dude just upload this map to your ECU with TuneECU and your off. No need for any more dyno time. I have the cable and all you need is a PC laptop or Windows running on a Mac. Also you will get a few quid for the PCIII as it will be redundant. It's a win win

i grabbed the otto leirher ignition mapping wich was mildly adjusted, basically it will give you a little bit more mid range (it shouldnt really change the top end), i then added this to the standard SDR akra map, then i applied shades fuelling for the motobox. It is a hybrid of maps but they all seem fairly conservative, if you dont like the map just go back to your normal map and 5 mins of wasted time.

but it will be like guy's map or my map for the normal SD... and everyone has noted the serious change in performance there.

can you adapt the fueling to the from shades map for he motobox and add to your map,

i am running your map at the moment but feel it needs alittle tweak, with the motobox etc

shame i can use this new one on the SD damn you SDR lol

Rallsy what are your bike specs again??

Sorry I haven't been in touch about poping round. Had a bit of shit going on and also just rubbish and getting in touch If there is a map that suits your bike then we can upload it and you can see if you like it. Save on some dyno time for sure.

hi guys,
going to be fitting the motohooligan airbox kit soon...thereafter the bike will be as follows.....
UK model,2008 SD, SLIP ON FMF's(cones in quietest set up) motobox,flies, sas removed,gangsensor removed...with pc3.
Can anyone advise on which map to download and run?....... until I get a custom map done.

Cheers,

Scooboo!!

Ok guys, I just got tuneECU loaded on my laptop and plan on installing a new map once I get my hands on a cable. My bike is a US spec '08 with Akra Evo slip-ons (with map) and the O2 sensors removed. That's all I've done with it so far, so which map would you suggest as being the best one for me?

Thanks Guy. Maybe this has been discussed in the other thread, but just so I'm clear on it: you can turn off the SAS system with tuneECU?

You are correct... Although KTMGUY said he had the 2nd flies turned off (unchecked), i checked my map and I believe the map for download from the list does have 2nd flies operational...?

This program is so easy and quick, I read my current map to check the 2nd fly box, then shot in James map for fun , both operations just a few minutes time, pop the fuse back in, do the 15 min idle, and i'm off!

07 SD, carbon Leo's (no baffles),motoflies, stock box/filter (for now) SAI block off, runs great with both maps!

Could someone tell me what EPC is, under devices?
Also,
My mate has '06 SD with Akras and Motobox - Is Klinck's map gonna be any good for hot aussie conditions?

I beleive EPC cuts the power in the lower gears for noise emissions.

klink can you check that, as when you try to load with tuneecu it says ' source array was to long. check srcindex and length, and the arrays lower bounds''

phil

whats a good map for me guys? i Have 09 SDR, akro slip ons (standard akro headers) moto hooligan air filter, sas, and secondry flies (all moto holligan kits)
Im in Victoria Australia. Only use 98 fuel.

The shade and Otto map that I had shade put on here

You will like it... Better fuelling for ur mods and some ignition advance in the mid range for some real mid range punch

Fuel's new map has just been added to first post. Enjoy and cheers for sharing Nigel

Please can anyway please point in the right location for a tune ecu map for yoshimura carbon end cans.

As my SD is running bad since fitting them.

as everytime I let off the throttle it backfires several times

what year and type is your bike ktmnewb

Disabling the SAS system will get rid of that popping and banging. The SAS was required for standard cans to help with burning off unburnt fuel but with aftermarket cans it just produces crazy pops and bangs. Also the graphite seal at the join 6 inches down the rear header disintegrates after a while and this produces a similar effect.

there are maps on the TuneECU website.
http://www.tomhamburg.net/KTM_Tune_list.html
something like the KTM 990 SuperDuke 106 hp 07-08 model years with Akrapovic Titanium slip-on exhaust would work well with your bike.

many thanks for advice,

will have a look at the graphite seal, and load the map advised and see how it goes.

Then will have to have a look into how to remove the SAS as couple of others recommend that.

But it sound complicated, anyone now if there is a kit available with instructions on how to remove the SAS.

Cheers and many thanks
John

Klinck's map is great for my bike I really feel the horses in the engine now
The snatchiness and hunting is completeley gone with O2 sensors turned off in TuneECU.
Fuel consumption is 7,1 litres / 100 km mixed use (city, highway..), so I think it is not lean.

Oh, an I didn't do the 15 mins reset after the map upload, just warm up the engine to 5 bars.

Rallsy's 07 SD map added. Specs are, 07 SD, Motobox, Moto secondary files, SAS removed, 97-98 ron fuel 1 deg of ignition advance.

Cheers for sharing dude

Klink - did you manage to look into the maps i PMd you about dude?

well i grabbed rallsy's map (fuelling and ignition) and added this with otto's (ottos runs fine so wherever ottos was higher i kept that and wherever rallsy's was higher i kept that... all stays within 3deg from original akra map so am confident to run it.

I used rallsy's fueling (although it looks rich, it has much more advance so the richness gets burned up more as it is ignited earlier)... i will let you guys know how it goes... ofcourse with rallsies or the one im now running... anything other than 98 ron would not be advised. although if required you could limp home on 95 ron

Im not after any map inparticular, just posing a question!

I actually have a 05 that was custom mapped but since removing the secondarys it has caused a lean spot at 3k which causes a hesitation dead on 3k revs (either in gear or neutral).

I downloaded klinks map and uploaded it into the ECU and it was cured. However, when messing about with maps on TuneECU i noticed Kilinks map and KTMs map No. D03 map (Klinks base map) are actually the same. So im now wondering if Klink has uploaded the wrong map or messed up when overlaying his PC3 map onto TuneECU?

Download them both and do a map compare and you will see what im asking

Map name diffrent, fueling same!

all i can see is klinks pc111 map... not .hex

did you want me to send you the one that he is running?

Look under .HEX Maps for upload to ECU with TUneECU. His is the 7th map down!

lol! he forgot to commit the trims

Hmm without pluging in the bike it's not poissible to know. Knowing me and the stoner that I am anything is possible though I'm sure I did commit the trims before I uploaded the map. I'll get a chance to play with the bike over Easter so I'll take a look then. So I take it I could just be running the Akra map?

I loaded Klinks map last week, does this mean I have the wrong map too ?

Did I email that one to you? If so its correct

Yeah, that's the one I got from you, good to hear it's ok.

Pass it over to me aswell would you, it will clear up my confusion!

Il pm my email

bloody hell... klinks map and even he didnt have it... lol

all sent to everyone now.

Klink, can you also confirm your base map whilst your at it hunny

Last tuesday I downloaded james' map modified as rallsy info and my bike was completely out of power!
Opening full gas from low revs wasn't followed by the obviuos power delivery. It was very difficult climbing the rev scale!

What went wrong? Is this because I only needed 98 RON fuel? Or maybe because I didn't remove secondary butterflies?

Anyway yesterday I downloaded Otto's map and everything went far better!

Sls.

Yes.. Secondary flies are turned off... So if u still have yours it is not going to work.. Either memoce them or enable them in the map

What other suggestions... If the flies are turned off it won't let air into the engine

I've got my cable, driver installed and Good Friday off so... I'm yanking some more unused stuff out of the bike today and would like to pull the PCIII off while i"m in there.
I'm looking for '08, (US if it makes a difference), Motobox, No Flies, No Shafts, no SAS, no O2, Leo's with decibel killers or without. What have we got that would work?
The James map modified with Rallsy is for what set-up?

Thanks
Will

Rallsys map is slightly richer from idle to 5k than James map, either should work well. Guys map is a pinch leaner than james, with a different f-l switchover point. Try em all on the same day, it's super easy with tuneecu. Cant wait to get mine on a dyno and try these three maps to find a winner.

Using the 'compare' function F6 you can look at the exact differences between any two maps, without even being hooked up to your bike. If you select the desired rpm(i.e. 5500) it will show just that fuel curve between the two maps. The more you experiment by looking at differing maps the more you'll understand what the changes actually feel like once in your ecu. Great software!

Wishing I had a laptop to make things easier. As it stands, lugging the tower and the rest out on the deck really isn't cutting it. So I'll wait and see what works for others until I can afford something portable for quick map switching. Overall it feels a tad rich and that's fine for me right now. I'll pull the baffles sometime and see if it makes any difference. I commute on this thing early in the morning and would rather not get lynched because of the noise so it will be a short afternoon test just to see.
When I'm finished paying for my kids orthodontist work this fall I should be able to get some dyno time. Until then...

got a buddy w/ ecu cable, motobox arriving in the near future and trying to figure out a good map to run for:
08 SD, Leovince slipons, SAS removed, stock flies

1st owner receipts show bike was serviced with "incorrect map installed, installed updated map and bike ran well on test ride." Not sure if the current map whatever it is will run ok w/ the motobox (which seems to be a slightly contested topic here whether it is or is not necessary to run alternative mapping).

haven't been able to find a specific map for my exact setup from a forum search, any suggestions?

potentially harmful at 91 octane?

yes i would say so... i use 98 RON... however i think the two arent exactly on the same scale from memory

any suggestions on a map for my mods on 91 octane (USA)?

do you know whats really strange... i cannot see any difference between the 611EU akra map or the 611EU akra map... same ignition and advance and fuelling

i dont see why you couldnt run any of the EU maps on your bike... however i would be cautious at first and listen for any strange noises

try intergrating this with your akra map

09SD_uk_AkraEvo-DNA_Akrabase.djm this one is with and aftermarket air filter like DNA
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/vbbd5r

or

07sd_euro_akra_no_dbkiller.djm
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/9mxln8

either should work the same... as there is no difference between the 07 and 09

or if somone wants me to, i could combine the standard akra map with the otto ignition curve (never worry about running lean with this base map)... this is a very mild ignition curve but you will still notice it

James do you think the Akra Evo map would be too lean for my bike? The combo map you made is great after 5k but boggy from 3.5 to 5k. Don't want to risk running her lean but in town it doesn't feel great for riding her as it stands.

klink, have you still got your flies in?

are the shafts still there?

cool map sent but turn off the flies then.

if anyone wants to try what it is like to not have any flies without actually removing them... they can set their 2ndry flies to 100% open all the time... just copy and paste the 100% sections accross. It does smoothen out the throttle more but will not have the exact same effect as not flies or shafts

Obviously dont forget to save this map as a copy, so you can always revert back if for some reason you dont like it.

Akras, Leos, almost the same thing... An aftermarket pipe that flows better than the standard pipes obviously without actually going to a dyno you won't have a perfect map. So you aim for one in the right direction and make do until you go to the dyno

hmm makes sense

How good is this forum!!!! got pc3 off ebay downloaded the custom leo vince map for 05sd dbkillers, from here and cant believe the difference so smoooooth.
no snatch between 3-4k rpm.
Possibly does not feel as if it hits as hard? but pulls from anywhere 2k in 6th open it up no bog!!!
My bike is an 05sd leo vince carbon slip ons no db killers fitted, luv the noise! sas removed o2 eliminators fitted bmc filter.
Is there another map on here that would suit even better?
can anybody tell me who the leo map came from?
cheers

sas removed does nothing other than de clutter engine (no real performance gain)

the map that you loaded is the one most perfectly suited to your bike... essentially same modifications and once past a certain percentage of throttle, the o2 sensors are not used anyway[/quote]
Cheers do you know where the map came from? Its just ive read akras&leo's no real difference so i was wondering if an akra map with no baffles and filter would be better

I just removed my PCIIIusb and the O2 sensor plugs, loaded 08 James Map and wow, what an improvement. I was running someone's custom map I received on the PCIII. The thing is smoother and stronger everywhere. Can you say PCIII usb for sale? I can. TuneECU is an awesome piece of kit. Glad I donated to them! Woo Hoo!

Will someone please point me in the direction of the info describing how to change the map on my pc3 ?
I dont know if i need a bit of software and what leads etc etc
cheers
Kevin

Just trying to get my head around this now i have the leads
my next question is whats the best map for a 2010 superduke r with akos moto box & the butterflies changed just going to take all the sas gear of
i have down loaded the last one on the tuneECU downloads but just wondering if any one else has had a play around with one ?

It's the last hex map on the first page of this topic.
Edit . Second to last as the last one has the huge warning...
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14763
08 SDR Shade fuel - Otto ignition - motobox - flies - pipes.hex (meant to be an awesome map)

sound i will try get my head round it at sum point this weekend

Got the TuneECU up and running without any problem.
My bike is still quite standard, with only akra slipons and now the O2 sensor disabled in tuneecu.
Is the akra original map the best map for me to run?

ok got my head around most of it but when i try load the 08-sdr-shade map it just keeps saying
unsupported map or file is corrupt ?

the map i have on the bike now is km611eu0802031

ZODDAS: i have same setup as you, i like 'guys' map the best, and errors on rich (but not as rich as stock map) without motobox, this map has some hotter timing and runs great. I recommend doing lots of 'research' on possible maps to understand the differences between them, use F6 to 'compare' and you will understand what each person or tuner has done to acquire their 'best' map...

'James' map is very similar with a touch more fuel on the high end and a different F-L switch over point

Just installed the Tune ECU and got it up and running. What map is recommended for a US spec 08 SDR with Akro slip ons everything else is stcok. I see there are EU spec custom maps but the EU fuel is different, so they are not recommended?

What I got from this was that you buy a Power Commander first, download this software and a map to get basically a free custom tune based on your mods?

Debating on weather to get the Power Commander or the Motohooligan airbox first...

Sweeeet lol now I just need to find an American map for my bike with my mods (slip ons and soon to be motobox ). Only seem to find Euro maps so far or non-specific maps (just numbers and letters). Thanks though!

08/09 sdr akra end cans 02 sensors switched of sas removed motobox and flies installed, shade otto map, getting vibrations from around 4500 rpm to rev limiter kicks it did not do this before fitting moto box gonna get it dynod hopfully friday any ideas? it dont bog down anywere and seems quite agrresive but the vibs are a tad worrying, I also hoped moto box would of smoothed things when it actually has got worse

Try The Jokers map I posted here a week or so back (just look back through the posts). He had a similar setup, but with standard flies & the full Akra system.

I ran his map for over a year & with mixed results - first few months it was perfect , then gradually the bike went back to being it's grumbly old self. Very occasionally it would be perfect again ! - I can only assume the ECU is making adjustments based on ambient temperature, etc; and what with the bike being very sensitive, is enough to make a difference to how the bike feels.

I'm currently trying shades map with the baffles out & MH flies - it's going well but I wouldn't say there is anymore power over The Joker's map; just louder with the baffles out - which I think does help the bike run a bit smoother.

PS: Have you removed (or cut) the tank shrouds to let more air in at the front ? - it definately made a difference to my bike !
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Paul

Ok I have just added my new dyno tune. PCIII maps added with the map that was in ECU listed as well. Also them combined in a TuneECU map. Baffles out map and baffles in. Bike made 129.43hp without baffles and 127 with them in. Bike specs are listed but here they are again.
06 UK SD
Full Titanium Akra System
Motobox
2nd Flys removed

Enjoy if your bike matches

Anyone would think u please with the results Klink

Do u notice any different when riding?

It has gotten rid of the bogging down issue of removing the 2nd flys 99%. There is still a tiny hesitation but damn she picks up quick and revs like a maniac front wheel is lifting in first 3 gears without even trying. Haven't had a chance to really spank her yet. Won't either until Brands on Monday, should make for an interesting trackday. Please weather Gods, don't let us down.

u will be flying away from Shade and Bic now lol

She's not quite making SDR power so Shade still has an advantage. With some ignition advance I think she would have but TBH part of me is glad he couldn't do it as it might have put too much strain on the engine, she's getting on a bit now and don't want to melt my valves or pistons. If he could have done it however I would have let him

I love the map database that is growing here.

Does anybody have a map for the following?

07 US SD
Akrapovic Evo Slip-ons
Air Filter

I tried "08 SD GuysCustom most suited to aftermarket air filter (not airbox).hex" and had to much hesitation in the low rpm ranges. Any insight would be helpful.

I got the chart to do exactly that but its all a bit scary

Can someone here give me some feedback on this map before I download it to my ECU?

I've got a 2007 US Model that is completely stock except for the Akropovic Exhaust (Cans Only). Since I didn't see a .hex file that looked like it was really for a bike as basic as mine I took it upon myself to create one.

My methodology was as follows:

1. Download the PCIII Software
2. Download a PCIII Map (M92-004) -Advanced Map*, Graves Slip ons , Stock air filter, Fuel table 1 is frt cyl
3. Open the US Base .hex map in Tune ECU
4. Import the PCIII Tables
5. Commit the Trims
6. Save Map (thank you Jambox)

The description of the PCIII map shown in the PCIII Software matches my setup except for the brand of slipon, which I doubt makes much difference. Here is the description of the PCIII map:

2007 KTM Superduke 990 *Advanced Map*
Graves Slip ons
Stock air filter
Fuel table 1 is frt cyl

If I'm thinking correctly, the end result should be a map for a stock bike with slip-ons. I'm going to play a little more with it and compare it to KTM's Akropovic map and see if I feel comfortable loading it. I appreciate your input.


*****DO NOT USE THIS MAP FRONT & REAR CYLINDERS ARE SWAPPED************

Re ^^^^^

6.Save map!

It sounds about right for your bike

Is yours a 07 model (does it have the fly screen) or is it an 07 registered 06? If an 07+ model try this one as well:

08 SDGuysCustom possibly the best map for aftermarket pipes .hex
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/xm46mo

New to this FI thing but a lot to learn. ANyway Offloaded My Map probably stock KM61US0704501

Im just going to start with the stock Akro Map from TuneEcu KM611US0704530Map.hex

However suggestions for an ignoramous of a possible map
07 SDR US Leo Vince slip-ons stock airbox ( just want to ride it, will MotoBox when funds allow ) , SAS removed. Generally AKI=93 => 98 Ron.
Do have access to 110 Octane @ the track ( $8 a gallon ) so a nice map would be good for that
Altitude around 800ft


Man what an awesome piece of kit, the Big 4 guys must be mad all this tuning for SFA
Thanks

I seem to remember that the 07SDR has the same motor as SD - if so then I would go with Guys map (08_SDGuysCustom_possibly_the_best_map_for_aftermarket_pipes_.hex) - this is by far the best map for std airbox and akra/open exhausts. Just make sure SAI is unticked, O2 Sensor is unticked, 2nd Throttle is ticked and EPC is unticked.

I've created a new .hex file for Tune ECU based on the map on the powercommander web site for graves exhaust.

I've got a 2007 US Model that is completely stock except for the Akropovic Exhaust (Cans Only). Since I didn't see a .hex file that looked like it was really for a bike as basic as mine I took it upon myself to create one.

My methodology was as follows:

1. Download the PCIII Software
2. Download a PCIII Map (M92-004) -Advanced Map*, Graves Slip ons , Stock air filter, Fuel table 1 is frt cyl
3. Copy the Table 1 and Table 2 trims to excel from the PCIII software
4. Using the Tables in the excal sheet, copy table 1 to table 2 and vice versa in the PCIII software.
5. Save the new PCIII map with the cylinder trim tables swapped.
3. Open the US Base .hex map in Tune ECU
4. Import the new PCIII Tables
5. Commit the Trims
6. Save Map (thank you Jambox)

The description of the PCIII map shown in the PCIII Software matches my setup except for the brand of slipon, which I doubt makes much difference. Here is the description of the PCIII map:

2007 KTM Superduke 990 *Advanced Map*
Graves Slip ons
Stock air filter
Fuel table 1 is frt cyl

If I'm thinking correctly, the end result should be a map for a stock bike with slip-ons.

If anyone is interested in a copy of the .hex file to play with, please let me know. I'd love to hear what a tuner has to say about the fuel trims and the proposed changes.

Sounds like you got it all covered, I'd say your thinking was correct

I'm trying the Evo4 map just as Doon said, it runs real good, but had to unclick O2 and SAI.

Dynojet map the bikes on a dyno too in order to create the maps, I know for a fact that more than one of the maps came from members bikes on here as they were looking for SDs in different configurations and so offered a cheap power commander and free mapping to any of us that could go along to their uk hq, I think at least 3 rocked up for this.

I used a map from them for akras and it was considerably better than std or akra map until I got a motobox and used Klinckys map instead, either way a custom map is always the best way to go but dynojet maps may still be an improvement in my experience, at the end of the day you can always remove again if you don't like.

Hmz alright, I know for sure most japanese inline 4's are still off a lot using a PCIII mapping but if the SD's do well with those mappings that's good, I didn't know that.
Maybe I'm just too much of a perfectionist with these things

08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/cdnyka

When downloaded, the above map shows up on the PCIII screen as "'05 SD std w/ Akra slipons". Any ideas?

Hi Guys,
i know you lot must get fed up with this but could you advise me on the best option.
I have a 07 SDR,Remus carbon hexagon cans no baffles,motohooligan box,moto secondary flies,sas removed,02 illiminators.Currently running the Ackra map and a RC8R throttle.
Ive seen both Rallys and james map which would be best.
Also can you help regarding the lower gear restrictor."what do i do".
Thanks in advance

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it's in here how to do it mate !!

well i finally got my cable, stupid canada post delivered it to the wrong address. I have an 08' SD with triangular akra's with carbon fiber tips. Last week I installed the motohooligan airbox and 2nd butterflies and removed the SAS. I downloaded James'/Rallsys map and fired it up, and just went around the block at low RPM, as i've got company coming over and am gonna drink some beer soon. It felt like it was running better, and can't wait until tomorrow to rip on it.

With just the Motohooligan box, it felt like it had a flat spot at 4500-5000 rpm. that was gone.

My question is: is Otto's Evo4 map for standard airbox or the moto box?

fook this shit is cool, and way better than a power commander. I had an 04 z1000, and although it was slightly faster in a straight line than the SD, the SD is 100 times the bike. I replaced the whole front end on my Zed with zx6RR parts and replaced the shock with a zx10, and the SD easily out handles, out brakes and hooligans the z1000 by a mile.

Also, the induction sound from the MH box gives me a boner.

Please help with links of TuneEcu cable and mappings for my bike as follow :

2008 SDR
Motobox
MH 2nd flies
MH SAS removal kit
Akra Slip on
Akra Map by dealer
O2 sensor eliminate

Thanks a lot.

Hi, just tried some maps on my bike if anyone interested.
05 sd with Akra slip ons, baffles in.
I think a good working one is this one.
It's the stock KTM map with dynojet M925-507 correction (I swapped cylinders for tune ecu)
2005-2007 KTM Superduke 990 European model *Advanced Map*
Akrapovic racing slip-ons with baffles
O2 Sensor eliminators installed
Stock ECU with stock tune
Stock or aftermarket air filter
Table 1 is front cylinder

I just disabled SAS and O2 sensors.
The map is slightly different than the akra ktm with M925-508.

If someone wants to try, or improve it (ignition ?), please let me know

Have you plugged/removed the SAS? If you haven't you may have a bit of popping on the over-run which can be cured by either reticking it (I didn't feel any difference afterwards) or stick a marble in the hose to block it.

Yes I plugged the hose up to the airbox. I just need to buy the bolts to replace the O2 sensors and store them with my stock exhaust

Hi guys,
just one question, when I close the throttle while riding slow, my bike runs alone @ about 2100 rpm and goes only back to the correct idle speed when I action the clutch.
WTF ?
Do I have to reset TPS ?

There's a rather large box from Aaron sitting in my local post office as we speak. With that in mind, I'm taking tomorrow off from work and plan to do some serious install time. I've got a US spec, 08 SD that will have Akra Evo slip ons, O2 delete and the full MH kit (MotoBox, 2nd flies and SAS removed). Out of all the maps out there, which would be the best for me to run?

Ok, got the Motobox installed and am about to re-map. I pulled down both Shade/Otto's map and 08_SD_grim and motobox. Which of the two do you think I'd have better luck with. My bike is an 08 US spec SD with the Akra evo slip-ons, Moto box, flies and has the O2 deletes. Thoughts?

cheesie,

i touched up the map for you and sent it back through.

Let me know how it feels now

thankyou for your time and effort into this mr z look forward to trying it

cheesie, how did you go? Feel any better?

Anyone here successfully used a PC111 map in Tune ECU?

I am confident importing and uploading the TuneECU maps - but cannot get to view and compare a PC111 map

advice humbly received

jon

Hey Digbyn, try the EVO4 map from the tuneecu website under 'custom maps', it's very similar to the akra but slightly leaner up top and has some nice ignition advance. Works better than many i've tried on my bike.

07 SD , slip ons (leos) , stock air box, motoflies , i dont stink after i ride (exhaust anyway) and always get 40 mpg regardless of riding style.

Digs,
are you digby from Canada?

Was this at cruising throttle pace? If so, what rpm? As it could be that you are dropping back into the open loop where it goes off pressure at certain low throttle inputs (your L1/L2 tables), let me know. I will update it for you to try.

Once we have your bike perfect I will post it up

still not had a chance to try this yet, been very busy of late

Just uploaded this map from page 1 into my PC3 usb............... 05SD_uk_akra_no_dbkillers.djm

Does the original owner of the map have a dyno graph to go with it?

Not had a run the bike yet, but curious to see what the dyno run looks like. When i compare it to the (wrong) map that was loaded before it looks a good bit different.

Cheers.

It's listed on my pc3 as..........

2005-2006 KTM Superduke 990 European model
Leovince Racing slip-ons
O2 Sensor eliminators installed
Stock ECU with stock tune
Stock or aftermarket air filter


The bike has always had good power and no fuelling issues on this. Inside of the cans ends run a nice deep grey colour on track. Only tried that akra map as it sounded like it was better suited to the bike.

Is that with the stock fuel map or the akra/ktm map?

Only asking cos I might give it a try. Always good to try new things

Can we sticky this to keep it at the top?


Here is my map from yesterday.

Requirements are.....
2005 SD EU model
KM610AK050E002Map-no02s-nobaffles Map in ECU.
Flies and shafts removed
SAS Removed
Breather mod with filter and catch tube
Individual pod foam air filters.
Leo Vince Carbon cans with standard headers.
No Baffles.

I'll mail it over to Klink now.

Just downloaded and compared the stock maps for 07-08 SD from TuneECU site and compared US vs Euro and couldn't find any differences at all. Checked all parameters possible in TuneECU. Are there differences that don't show up in TuneECU? I've been a little concerned about trying Euro maps in my US bike, but this finding seems to indicate that there's nothing to worry about, given that the base maps are identical. Is that correct? If so, then why does KTM have two identical maps that are named differently? (not that everything a manufacturer does has to make common sense, of course...)

There are things in the ECU that we can't adjust with tuneecu like acceleration pump to name one. This is the amount of fuel injected extra when the throttle is opened quickly like the squirt on the old carbie.
We are not exactly sure is there are subtle differences like that in the ECU for the US and Eu bikes.
However loading a map should work even if you have to start by downloading your map out of the ECU in to the laptop and then adjusting it by comparing with another or cut and paste.
Just save your first map so you can always go back to it and upload your corrected map to your ECU and Bob's your uncle....This should always work if all else fails.

Okay so wich Map for TuneECU I need for my bike ?

Requirements:

SuperDuke 2008 (US model)
- FMF, no baffles
- MH Motobox (K&N)
- MH Butterflies
- SAS removed


Many thanks guys !

On2 Wheels.
I have a 2008 with a Leo vince and Im running the akro map and it is rich, this might be a good starting point for you. Im in Toronto.I think its the 0704530.

Levert and On2, the akra map is rich, I would recommend trying the EVO4 map off the tuneecu website, it is slightly leaner up top and has some ignition advance which is a noticeable improvement. This map has the best driveability for me and i seem to get 40 mpg no matter the throttle position...

Except modify the rev limit from 10,200 back to the stock 9,800, there is NO need to overrev this motor

My setup:
07 SD
Leo's
MH flies
no SAS
O2's turned off

US 'mate'

Gotcha.

Thanks to Levert and TC's SD

I just removed to secondary butterflies too.. So, now:

08 SD
motobox
fmf
flies removed
no SAS
O2's turned off

I will give a try on Nigel's map and let you know..

Not sure about the rev limit too, I want keep the stock 9,800 rpm.

I don't see any maps for US bikes for an '08 SDR with the following setup:
MH Airbox, Full Akra system, 02 eliminators.

Will this one work?
08 SDR Shade fuel - Otto ignition - motobox - flies - pipes.hex (meant to be an awesome map)
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/3qgz3p


And the tune ecu only has us akra maps for slipon only? Can i just load this one with my setup?

I'm also located in California and we are stuck with 91 octane gas only so I a little concerned with using the Shades Map.
I know for my STI when I loaded my Cobb Map, they have one specifically for Arizona, CAlifornia and Nevada due to the shitty gas we get here.

I'm curious what map you guys would pick for my SD...
'08 S.D.
Cal.91 octane
Leo carbon cans-db killers out currently-
charcoal can. removed-
O2 sensor deleat plugs and resistors-
Motobox-
just removed secondary flies last nite-

Thanks
Mike

I think I'm good with
08 SD james' map for grim and motobox modified from rallsy's info.hex
Been running it for two weeks...
Just need to turn off secondaries and clear codes-

Unless someone thinks I should run something else...

Sometime this year I'm hoping to get to the dyno....

I am trying to locate the right map for my set up, but there doesnt seem to be one thats an exact match and therefofe unsure which one is best.....set up is as follows.....2007 SDR..UK...HP Corse Slip ons no DB killers......SAS removed & blanking plates and resistor fitted...MH airbox...O2 eliminators....please advise which map would be best...any ideas

Hello guys!
I hope now this is correct theme

I have now all things ready, now I start to explore maps for SD but I do know which work best with my SD.

I have:
EU
SDo6
Akrapović slip on
SAS block off
DNA air filter

THX for help!

sorry but forgot to mention that secondary flies and shafts also removed....Bert would your sugestion still suit my setup ..thanx

^^^ Yes it will. Just make sure that the 2nd throttle is de-ticked on the map that you send, otherwise you'll get an error

LOTS of reading to be done here.

I've just finished some work on the bike and plan on getting some dyno work done in the spring.

The bike is currently;

Canadian (US) bike
Motohooligan airbox
2nd flies and shafts removed
SAS removed
Yosh slip on cans
Akra map in there now with SAS, 2nd throttle, O2 sensors switched off.

I'm thinking that these 2 maps best suit my bike;

08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/cdnyka

or,

06 SD, Klincks Map. Full Akra, Motobox, 2nd flys removed, baffles out. made 129hp on dyno
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/tz3iz0

Thoughts, suggestions?

Hey I don't know if this is the right thread for this question but anyways here goes. I have the pc 3 on my SuperDuke, can I just ditch it and get the tune ecu cable and download a better map for my bike. I've read a bit of the tune ecu thread and it seems like a much better way to go.
Anyone know of where I can get the cable? I've found one on the cj designs website. Any other places I should be looking?
Is its easy to make adjustments on your own? Not that the pc 3 weighs a whole lot but it's always good to shed some weight off the bike any way you can. Thanks in advance for any info given. This forum is just awesome.

Hi, Will PCIII maps work on a PCV?. have just purchased a PCV and AT-300 dual channel auto tune.
i am after a map to load on thats close and let the auto tune work from that.

bike is;
09 SD
fmf slip on, no baffles
moto box
moto secondary flys
sas removed
run on 98 octane fuel

Any help will be great.

Hi, all!
Please help me with new map for tuneecu on this bike:
SD 07+ EU (stock map is KM611EU0702S01Map.hex)

Setup:
SAS removed
2nd throttle motor, TPS, throttle plates & shafts removed
Rottweiler Air Intake System
Akrapovic Slip-On Ti Silencer w/o db-killers
RON 95-98
O2 & SAI will be unchecked in map.

Thank you.

what does the abbreviation DJM...as in the hex maps stand for

It's been mentioned in this thread that Canadian bikes are Euro spec but I can't seem to find any confirmation. Does anyone have a source or direct knowledge?

Once it's been sorted out what bike I have, I'm still looking for a suggestion for a map for my bike;

2008 SD
MH box
2nd flies and shafts removed
SAS removed
Yosh slip on cans.

Currently I have the Akra map loaded with SAS, 2nd flies, and O2 switched off.

Thanks much.

Any idea from the forums on what maps are used for the Australian bikes, EU or US?

EU for AU bikes

.

Hi All,

New on here. Recently bought my first SD, it is a gorgeously orange 2006 euro model. The bike is fully standard. I am too broke now to get airboxes and akra's etc. I'll wait with big removals (secondaries etc) untill I can do the exhaust and stuff.

In the mean tiome I have a bike that is hell to ride under 4000 rpm.

Is there any map out here that is made for standard bikes but still brings improvements in smoothness? Maybe a map taht moves the secundaries to 100% all the time or moves the switch point of L to F map....anything that helps.

I am used to riding snatchy twins but this one needs a bit of tweaking to get it better.

Thanks,

Marc

Hi Bert,

Thanks, I will try this. But wouldn't the Akra map be too rich for my bike with standard pipes? I already only get 11 klm/l

Regs,
Marc

I haven't made myself perfectly clear. I was referring to the f-l switchover.
So, disable O2 and change the f-l switchover to whatever changes MrZ32 made.
If you choose to permanently open the 2ndry flies you will have to change all the values to 100% (again, look at MrZ32's changes).

OK, Understood.

Thanks Bert,

Marc

Sounds like a good bit of kit

I have also taken the standard exhaust map and switched off O2, set L-F mapping at 0 as of 2000 rpm and have set the second flies to 100% all over. The bike runs fine. I am just wondering about the second flies; I assume that their original function is not so much the throtling of the amount of air coming in but but more to change the speed of that incoming air. Or am I wrong about this one? If it is there to adjust airspeed at lower RPM for instance will setting them open 100% not adversely affect the running?

Greetz,
Marc

Just added 4 new /hex maps for TuneECU from James aka MrZ32. They can be found with others in first post.

They are for standard SD/R. No mods, no cans, no nothing.

Enjoy.

Ok, so out they come then

Removing the second flies is a great mod. More grunt, more noise, bit less engine braking, costs fook all. Win win

hey folks

broke me neck snowboarding about 5 weeks ago and decided it was a good time to work on the SD in prep for the summer.

MH airbox arriving tuesday and have carried out the following and looking for a decent base map ?? once all is will fit a PCV and will be dyno'ed and custom mapped. I know most folk have PCIII but i figure for an extra £12 why not get the smaller version. going to be custom mapped anyhow.

Will supply the PCV map once done in case its of use to anyone.

2010 UK SD
o2 eliminator plugs fitted (turned off in tuneECU)
SAS removed (turned off in tuneECU)
secondry flies and shafts removed
Akra titanium slip ons.

Currently have the standard KTM 990 SuperDuke 07-09 model years with Evolution Titanium exhaust map loaded. loaded by dealer after i had the akras fitted.

So question really is, would anyone recommend a different base map that i could use off this thread before taking the SD to get dyno'ed and custom mapped?

cheers

Cloonster

Jesus You must feel lucky breaking your neck and still walking around. Hope all heals quickly.

You may have a problem with downloading the maps on page one soon. Apple are taking away the iDisk function from their iCloud. That is where they are all hosted. I will have to find another free service that offers this. I will back everything up though so no files will be lost

Thaks Klink

Yeah, lucky is an understatement!! was up around 3800m in the back country miles from anything. had to call inthe heli as left rm was not useable. on the mend now though and have half the feeling back!!

any chance you could advise me on a base map?

MrZ32 or Bert are the guys to ask before me dude.

I would have thought the Akra map would be the best starting point - as if the PCV malfunctions or you have to remove - least you know the base map will be rich. If you went with the std map it would probably be on the lean side in the above scenario.

Thanks fellas.

So basically the akra map I had loaded when fitting the titanium akras by the dealer should be a decent base map, essentially leave as is??

Hmm

I'm new to the world of TuneECU, but have just received my cable and have a Rottweiler induction system on order. Looking for a map for the following setup:

2008 US spec Super Duke
SAS removed
2nd throttle motor, TPS, throttle plates & shafts removed
Rottweiler Air Intake System
FMF Apex Slip ons
O2 sensor eliminators

This is the closest one I see listed, but I'm sure the Rottweiler makes a huge difference over the stock airbox:

08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/cdnyka

Any help is much appreciated!

My map wouldn't match your bike. I would look on page 1 and go for smoothed Akra map first. What year is your bike and is it Eu, US or Aus?

Not much more you can do then really. I don't remember seeing a map that was custom with just the end cans. There is an ignition advance map for 05/06 Akra but there are opposing views on how safe it is.

I tried the standard smooth mapping (F-L switch set to 0 over 2000rpm) but missed grunt at lower rpm. I put them back to normal. Has anyone tried doing the opposite and move the L-F mapping switch point to a higher value? This could work also; you move the switch and subsequent jerk to a throttle position that asks for mucho gas so you won't notice the switch as much as at lower throttle opening...and at the low throttle openings (city traffic or so ) you use only the L mapping, no switching so less jerky.

Regs,
Marc

I dare not play around

Just loaded this one - 08-10 EU SDR Akra Smoothened - seems good, cheers James - anyone else tried it?

Hey Guys I have a 08 SD. Tryed to load the smoothed tune from james for the 08-10 US bikes. The tune would not load on my bike. I then noticed that there was another tune that said 07+ bikes. That tune loaded no problem. Im guessin the 08-10 is actually for 09+ bikes... I tryed a few different tunes and james Smoothed 07+ tune worked great! My favorite so far. Thanks man! I also tryed the 08_SD_james_map_for_grim_and_motobox_modified tune and for some reason it didnt work good at all on my bike... seemed to maybe run way lean up top?

Ok, I got the CPR Rottweiler box installed last night and started playing with maps. I've also got FMF Apex cans, SAS removed, Secondaries removed, and O2 eliminators on a 08 US spec standard Superduke.

First tried to load this map as it was closest to my setup, however it's for a PCIII, not a hex map: 08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/cdnyka

After searching all the hex maps I started out with this one: 07 SD, Motobox, Moto secondary files, SAS removed, 97-98 ron fuel. Rallsy's Map https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/hck2kg It pulled hard at midrange and top end, but was terrible at low rpm, very jerky and the dreaded on/off throttle snatchiness was far worse than before all the mods.

Next I tried this one: 08 SD james' map for grim and motobox modified from rallsy's info.hex
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/3km6wu This map pulled even harder, outstanding power, but still not good at low rpm, extremely jerky and unnerving at low speeds.

Finally tried this one: 08 akra map with klinks pc111 map.hex (so Akra slip, Motobox, Hooligan SBV)
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/p9mrv5 I would say it wasn't as strong as the first two, and had even more low end fluctuation.

So...

I don't have access to a tuner anywhere close that works with TuneECU, need to find an existing map that works fairly well until I can plan a trip to have a custom map made for my bike. The Rottweiler system sucks in more air than the other aftermarket airboxes, and the Apex pipes are basically straight through with no baffling. Like I said the secondaries are removed, along with the SAS, and the O2 sensors. Any ideas or recommendations for a map that might help smooth out the bottom end stumbling and jerkiness, while providing enough fuel to run strong at mid and top end? There are a ton of maps available tailored to specific exhaust systems, but I'm more concerned with finding one for a high airflow intake system, I think any exhaust without baffles will be similar to my FMF Apex.

Thanks for any help and advice you can offer!

James - this is a consistent problem for me - any new map is good for while, some longer than others, and then running deteriorates as if the ECU is relearning old bad habits - resets only result in brief, if any improvement - will start by reloading standard Akra map, putting back stock secondary flies (having already tried Moto's), switching off O2 sensors in TuneECU and take it from there - have put off custom map until final decision re airbox but at 45k miles that may not happen until engine rebuild required.

Found mention of this one on the German site but I can ponly find a .dat version to download:
KM610AK050E002M
990 SuperDuke,Dyno tuned with standard pipes (Off road use only, Not
using O2 sensor)

Does anyone have the .hex version?
I run a stock '06 SD with O2 off in Tuneecu.
Thanks,
Marc

Ok, downloaded the tuneboy software and read the .DAT file.

The lay out of tuneboy and Tuneecu are diferent so I could not copy and paste somehow.

I have manually changed the cells in the standard 05-06 F and L maps to the values (or as close as possible) as I could read them in the standard exhaust race only mapping of Tuneboy.

I need to run the mapping on my standard bike and see what it does. It looks quite a bit richer in mid range..... First annoy the neighbours with a 15 minute ini idle.....

Ok, ran the ini thingy for 15 minutes and took a short spin. Doesnot cure jerkiness but seems to shift smoother between L-F map. Pulls harder at a lower rpm.....downside....nice pops when I close the throttle at speed....
Engine has a bit of a darker sound, must the richer mixture in mid range...

Maybe this is a nice alternative for the standard 05-06 bike mapping?

Where do I upload this mapping to for those that are interested?

Greetzz,
Marc

@speedmotorrad: can you get me a copy of the map you created? sounds like a promissing map to me...

Mailed the mapping to MrZ,

Maybe he knows how to upload the mapping to be available here.

regs,
Marc

i have a 2007 SD (australia) with round titanium akras, no other mods. no baffles. bought the bike second hand with the akras already fitted so decided to see what map is in the ECU.

bike has map KM611EU0702S01 which is the standard map i believe??

was going to update with the 07+ EU SD akra smoothed map from the first page, is this the right one?

im pretty sure its what i want but i've never played with TuneECU before..

Looking for the best map for my bike but only found one close but it was for the R model.

Mine is the regular superduke, year 2008. I have akra slip ons, moto hooligan air box and flies. Sas removal and 2 nd and 3 rd restrictor off. Anyone have a link to a proper map for me using tune ecu? I want to try tune ecu before I go out and buy a power commander.

Getting a custom map made Saturday, found a nearby dyno guy experienced with TuneECU willing to tune my bike. Will share my experience when done, and the map if anyone wants it.

Hello,

I have a 2008 Superduke that is stock except for Apex slip-ons. I get complaints of a "stinky" exhaust from those who follow me. My bike is stock except for Apex cans. After the intial complaints, I had it remapped at the local KTM dealer for an aftermarket exhaust with no real change in performance or "stink".

I bought the bike with 500 miles on it, so it is conceivable that the original owner had an aftermarket exhaust and remapped it before I bought, then reinstalled the stock exhaust. Therefore when I had the bike "remapped" there was no difference.

Anyway,I was wondering what the best "stock' Tune ECU map for my bike is. I am thinking it runs too rich and feel this bike does not need the aftermarket richer mixture. There are several choices on the TuneECU page which make it confusing. I ride mostly technical roads and would prefer conservative power/low end torque with fuel economy rather than peak power. I seem to get only 30 mpg (USA) right now no matter how I ride.

Thanks, my riding buddies will appreciate it!
Joe Niemec
President, Sport Touring Motorcycle Club of NY/NJ
http://www.sporttouringmc.com

Hi Everyone, ive got the tune ecu software and cable, my dad has a 08 uk sd with the following mods;

mh box,
sas removed,
2nd throttle plates removed,
2nd 3rd gear mod,
02 eliminators,
quill cans,

not sure if its got the akrapovic map but ive had it on tune ecu and unticked the sas, 2nd throttle plates, epc and 02 sensors, i rode the bike standard and it doesnt feel any faster now, not free revving, which map would you recommend?

Dyno today.

After much completed work from standard with round akras.

MH airbox fitted
02 elimators
RC8 stacks
2nd butterflies and shafts removed
SAS removal
PCV fitted

Klink, worthwhile sending you a copy of the PCV map for others

Outcome:

We done the 2nd 3rd gear mod and the snatchy throttle has gone, im guessing its on the standard map then? Mods listed below on 08 uk sd

16t front sprocket
Mh box
Sas removed
2nd throttle plates and shafts removed
2nd 3rd gear mod
Quill cans with removable baffles

@cloonster: Looks nice, I would like a copy of your map too...

Ok, will pull the map off this weekend !!

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I want to try one of the PC3 maps on my SD using Tune ecu.
As I understand it, you should start of by importing one of the basic tune ecu maps, because they have the same trim for both cylinders.
Ok, I import one of the basic maps, but when I click on F1 and F2 I can clearly see the trim of the cylinders in the basic map differs quite a lot???
What am I missing here?

A question for the experts.
I have an SD MK1 with: Mivv Suono Exhaust Sound with dbkiller "ignorant", BMC air filter, removing SAS Kit, not sure if to take away the secondary butterflies.
Can you show me a good map to be included with tuneecu ..... right now I have akra original map, but reading around saw that speak well of the maps of OTTO that is for MK2 model.
Could you tell me if the MK2 maps go well for the MK1 and if so what would you recommend?
TY.

I've been through ALL the TuneECU and mapping posts on here, ADVRider and the TuneECU website and I must say I'm still slightly lacking in direction. I installed the quiet inserts (inappropriately named but a touch better than the straight pipes) I just got from FMF for my Apex Exhaust and I have the CPR Filter and Motohooligan Block Off Plates ready to go on this weekend. After taking the exhaust off I see my bike also has a PCIII installed on it (which the guy I bought it from didn't even know about) which muddies the water a little further for me. SO, I'm just looking for a direction from someone who has a similar setup to mine -->

08 US SDR
CPR Filter
Akro Headers and FMF Apex Exhaust with inserts in most restrictive orientation
SAS Blocked Off
O2 (will be turned off if not already)
2nd Fly's will be removed as well as shafts since that seems to be the general consensus.
RC8 Stacks
G2 Cam but I think it's actually a steeper profile than what many on here recommend (was already on the bike)
TuneECU program and cable ready to go
PCIII currently installed

Horsepower is a nice byproduct of any remapping but my main goal is to smooth this beast out. I see Kowekiller was very happy with his recent PCV Dyno tune and I'd hoped to see what he was using for his base but haven't heard back from him yet. The James smoothed maps sound good as well as one or two others as starting points but if any of you have strong opinions either way please feel free to point me in a direction...ANY direction

Thanks for any help guys....Scott

I am in the process of moving map files from my Mobile Me account which is about to end to my DropBox account. Any problems downloading any files please PM me and I'll fix it.

Great thread.

I've got an '07 SD with motohooligan airbox and Leo cans w/o DB killers. I'm currently running the "08 SD james' map for grim and motobox modified from rallsy's info.hex". I pulled the plugs at valve inspection time and it looks to me like I'm running a bit lean:



Am i wrong? If not, what maps would you guys recommend?

Thanks!

Thanks Scott, I'll shoot you a PM in a second. I downloaded James smoothed SDR map into the ECU and took it out yesterday and it was better than it had been but still snatchy on and off the throttle but way better at lower speeds. I didn't remove my PCIII yet though and my other mods will wait until this weekend then I'll give yours a shot!!

Thanks for the help.....Scott

I have a map that I made for the foam filter airbox. one US member has tried it and was happy.
If it works for you also I will send it to Klinck. pm me if you want to try it.
It can be sent in tune ecu format or pcv.

Yes I think you are correct, my map would only suite 07 upwards standard type SD.
Mine is a 07 SDR but is the standard 07 SD engine.
Let me know XFANMAN if you still want it?
I dont think it would even let you load it into the ecu.

I'm trying to download James' smoothened Akra map and getting;

mobileme is closed

Are these maps hosted elsewhere or is this just an iCloud issue?

I'm currently running the KM611EU0704530 mapping, is this the standard Akra mapping?

Found my answer, it is

sooo heres my question, ive been reading tons about how we remap and make these bikes ride great, and its not as easy as it was on my buell but the concept is the same.

im confused with the pcIII and running just a regular ecu map, I have a pcIII on my bike im not sure if its been tuned or not. Im 95% sure i dont have the stock map on my bike because when i bought it, it didnt have the second flies in and has a full akra exhaust on.

what ive done is:

Ram airfilter pods
full akra exhaust
second flies out
sas is about to be removed
im not sure about the o2 sensors, i would like to turn them off.
PCIII

can someone help me with a map that i can use and never have to deal with it again, but i still will be getting great performance and having this bike ride as great as it could.

Just take a custom airbox map als turn off flies and O2. Change F-L numbers to 12 - 12 - 6 - 0 - 0 etc. to get it smoothened and ditch the PC3

Now you've got a great starting point, get it dynoed for optimum results or leave it the way I just discribed if you think it's fine.

how come when I try to take one of the maps off of the first page, it sends me to some icloud page??

how do i get the maps from here?

I'm currently running one of James' custom maps (good amount of ignition advance and set up for my current mods). However now that I've grown used to the new power I've worked out some of the flaws. Below 4K RPM the bike doesn't pull nearly as strong compared to over 4K. I'll go wide open throttle at about 3K and the bike will move but once it hits ~4K its almost like a turbo spooling up, its a big surge of power and keeps pulling. I've tried to get into contact with James several times but no response. Am I running lean? I now have 2 RC8 stacks in my possession but am worried if I install them the bike will be running way too lean. Does anyone have a map they know will run well with my current mods plus the stacks? Should I just switch to the Akra map just to be safe?

ok so i understand the mapping now for these bikes and what ppl figured out that works and doesnt work.

my BIGGEST question though is whats the difference of uploading a map to my PCIII compared to uploading and running a map to the ECU?

if I upload one to the ecu and i still leave my pcIII in, and would the ecu just read the map that i gave it?

Going to give the smoothened Akra map a shot (no way you can run lean). I've tried to download it onto TuneECU but every time I click on the hyperlink posted on the first page of the thread, it sends me to a blank web page that says Http/1.1 Service Unavailable.

I never had this problem when I downloaded my first custom tune onto my bike so I'm pretty stumped as to what to do from here. Any help would be appreciated.

I download the map for my PCII : 08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB

but it`s not right, in the notes section it says 2005 SD, akras......is this map wrongfully uploade or are the notes wriong? anywais, what I`m looking for is something for my SD wich is :

2008 SD U.S.
CPR pod Filter
FMF exhaust
O2 eliminators
SAS removed
Secondary flies removed

can someone help me out? maybe someone has the right file store away somewhere, I would really apreciatte it if you couls point me on the right direction or email me the right file at [email protected]

thanks a bunch guys

Hello guys i need some advice i have a 2009 superduke with Akra rounds and i assume the akra map installed (as does chuff all miles to a tank) and i now have a tuneecu cable, so what i am asking is what you guys would turn on/off etc as a good starting point for better fuelling and a little more power?.

Cheers in advance Gary. p.s is there anyone from the south west of England on here who i could call on if it goes tits up or maybe a ride out.

Everything else is still standard, i am not planning on doing major changes as i never keep bikes for too long. Thanks for the quick response as i have never dabbled in bike ecu programming before and like someone else to lets say iron out the kinks before i use it.

Could someone possibly send me the 07+ EU SD Akra Smoothened map please?

I have that map, drop me your email addy in PM and ill send it. If you havent already got it.

F.a.o colonel klinck, hello mate i have sent you a pm but i assume your inbox is full as wont send, Could you possibly send me the map for 2009 with akra rounds and no other mods i believe its called the smoothened one please.
Cheers Gary.

whats the best map to go on my sdr with akos on it moto airbox & sas blanking plates still got the flys in 4 now i have a old map
08_SDR_Shade_fuel_-_Otto_ignition_-_motobox_-_flies_-_pipes (1)
i was going to put on but as yet its still standard but with all the bling lol
i just need to dig my lead out & upload the maps just woundering if this is still the best map

thanks in advance

I'm using Jocke's map for a similar spec SDR, except that I'm using filter pods not Motobox.

Works for me - most of the time.

Hey guys my CPR airbox arrived today, pick it up from the post office tomorrow. Specs will be

2007 SD
CPR Airbox
Yoshi carbo slip
SAS block offs
O2 disabled
And flies either removed or off

I am currently running James's smoothened map.

Any other suggestions for my specific setup? Thanks

The links does not work for me. Could anyone send me the SDR full Akra smoothed map?

Edit: The bike: 2009 SDR Full Akra

pm me an email address and I'll send you the 08 SDR Euro version

How do we gain access to this dropbox or where is the link to it?

Page 1 dude. All the links to maps and manuals are there

the new us akra smoothened map file name is showing EU, not us, any chance i could snag the us tune?

Sure thing, this dropbox link is showing the EU map still when I try to d/l it. Thanks much -Ryan

Fixed

Have just done all these mods on my 08 US SDR using this forum, and I must say its been a fantastic source of help and info. The bike now certainly has livened up, more power, the engine braking is a lot less and no popping. It also is smoother overall but needs a little more off idle.
I was looking the the tune ecu maps and could not find one with all the mods on. Am planning to have the bike dyno'd at some point, but in the mean time was hoping to find an interim map that would work.
Would also like the bike to be smoother off idle.
So if anyone can point me in the right direction for a good map to try, I would appreciate it.

Akra map with O2s, SAI, 2nd Throttle, EPC switched off
FMF cans
Rottweiler airbox
Secondary flies completely removed
SAS completely removed
O2s off
RC8 throttle bodies
Full breather mod

Thanks

Does anyone here know if the Akra mapping has the right values for the front cylinder compared to the rear cylinder?
I won't have the equipment to test each cylinder individual so I'm looking for the best basic mapping to do a single trim tune.

Also, is there a custom mapping for a SD and SDR with airbox, dampers, no flies and no SAS available to use as a basic setting? I need this for my friend (SDR) who's going to install a CPR box soon and also for myself for some airbox development until I can get dyno time.

Thanks in advance!

Im running the 4530 Akro map and it does have seperate mapping for both cylinders.
I have the motohooligan, Leovince, SAS plates, O2 off, 2nd flysin, and I think its running rich.

In Toronto no one does tunecu but a local guy here says he can easily figure it out.
In April Im going to have them remap on the dyno .

BTW as stands the bike runs very well, its just a pig on the gas though

Great to hear he's working on improving the already great program.

I have no smoothness problems with the f/l on 12, 12, 6, 0, 0, 0 in tune ecu with flies fully opened. 2000rpm is smooth as well. Is your solution primarily to help the PC compatibility?

Thanks for the explaination KEV, congrats on your mod book.
That is very impressive and must have taken some time to compile.

Thanks mate, I was not to sure if you SD guys would be interested in a Modification book written on my SMR & SMT's so I have never posted a link here, it's basically one place for all the mods that I have carried out + information off the internet that would be related to the SMR & SMT, as you have seen it has over 400 pages of info. If anyone wants a copy let me know & I will post a download link on this forum for you?

Post it up Kev , I am in the process of doing my water pump and fuel pump due to being at 23000k with the help of your mod book, lots of helpful hints and links to parts.
Well done again, you are an inspiration to KTM owners

Link to mod book, a Moderator can clean this thread up if you want.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20811&p=251835#p251835

Just after some advise as just about to remove sas system and remove secondary flies completely and was wondering if there is a map for my bike which currently has Akraprovic slip ons running the smoothened akra map?. I know this has probably been asked a few times but when i mess with my pride and joy i like to get it right first time with as little hassle as possible.
Cheers in advance Gary.

Hi, Any experts advise me. Recently got a 08 down in Spain all Std but with LeoVince slipons. Had to take it for an ITV (inspection) and knew they check emissions and noise so put std cans on - passed OK, Phew !. Put Leos back on and then thought of remapping - checked with TuneECU and found its already got the KTM Acro map KM611EU0704530Map.hex OEM (had an evap valve error logged)

It runs OK, just a little backfire on overrun, so question is is it worth (possible) using any other map eg a smoothed Acro and/or turning off things like SAS O2 etc or will this damage the function of the cat for future emission tests ? Not bothered about more top end performance (nice if you can get it !) and don't want to physically modify anything that will need changing each inspection.

FYI Seems like the only check Co on tickover from info on test results and memory of the test and noise at 4500rpm (not rolling road). Think Co result was about 2%, not sure of the test limits.
Don't know if it would or not have passed noise with the Leos.

Aren't US models emissions tested each year ?

Thanks Alan.

First off, hello and welcome to the nuthouse. THANKS SEEMS A GOOD FORUM, HAD SUPERDUKE ON SHOPPING LIST OR YEARS SO TOOK OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE FROM MY TUONO WHEN IT GOT WRITTEN OFF !

Secondly, you can use the smoothed Akro map which will make it run smoother on off the throttle. If you are going to keep swapping the cans over for the test you will need to keep SAS installed, but you can turn off the O2 when the Leo's are on (and back on for std exhaust) for the cat. OK UNDERSTAND WILL GIVE IT A GO.

In the UK we only have the noise test, so can't advise on the emissions side, but mine passes no problem with Leo's fitted (with baffles still in). Admittedly it is down to discretion of the tester, so not sure if they let it slide or not.

The Akra map runs very rich, so I would have thought that if it passed with this map + std exhaust, it would be fine with the Leo's on. Just have a word with the tester before you do it next time and see what they say.[/quote]

MY SPANISH ISN'T SO GOOD AND THE TESTERS SEEM A BIT OFFICIOUS, THEY DO AN ACTUAL DB NOISE TEST AT 4500RPM.
MIGHT GIVE IT A TRY NEXT TEST WITH LEOS - IF YOU SAY THE ACRO MAP IS RICH THE SMOOTHED ONE SHOULD PASS TOO ?

WHAT ABOUT THE 2NDFLIES - TURN OFF TOO I ASSUME (UNTICK IN TUNEECU) ?

Thanks again Alan.

No keep the 2nd flys ticked, as deticking them will stop the secondary throttle bodies from working and choke the intakes. Only detick them if they have been removed.

The smoothed Akra map has the same fueling as the normal one, but the throttle response isn't as jerky (especially at low revs)

Hello guys,
I've been looking and looking and I cant seem to find any Maps for the PCV that would come close to suiting my bike.
I have a 2008 SD (Aussie)
Full Aprokavic exhaust,
PCV,
Rottweiler intake,
SAS blocked,
RC8 stacks
Still have secondary butterfly's (is this a bad thing?)

At the moment I'm running a Map from CRP but its for a US bike with slip on's. It's given my bike some top end but midrange is lacking.
Tossing up between a dyno run to get a map created or get the autotune that connects to the PCV.

I can see there has been a lot of discussion about maps, just cant find anything for the PCV.

Hope someone can help.

Cheers guys.

Jason.

Hi,
There is one thing I don´t understand in this map...Who did it?? the map is modified from the Akrapovic Map, isn´t it?
07 SD, Motobox, Moto secondary files, SAS removed, 97-98 ron fuel. Rallsy's Map

I don´t understand a box in the F2 Map at 4000rpm and 60% of gas there is a 10096???
and why the ignition advance is only from 70% to 100% of gas?? Is the finality to get a dual purpose map?
from 0 gas to 70 you have the normal superduke and from 70 to 100 the beast awakes!

Thany you very much for all and specially for those who changed the old map links that didn´t work!

Jordi

When they say the Akra map has no chance of going lean, is that including the RC8/DVS stacks now available?

-Motohooligan airbox, FMF pipes, butterflies and shafts removed, all emissions controlls removed, torque limiter removed, DVS. Would the smoothened Akra map take care of me?

only mod to bike so far, Leo Vince slip ons.

Question: which map is best for bike/performance gains?
07-08_US_SD_Akra_Map_smoothened.hex
08_SDGuysCustom_possibly_the_best_map_for_aftermarket_pipes_.hex

and, should i be unchecking any boxes?

Thank you all in advance for your answers and support

Does anyone have a pcv or tuneecu map for 09 SDR with akra and DNA S3?

Hi guys - I just loaded teh 06 smoothened out akra map and it is superb!! My god it has made a hell of a difference to the ride now, just wanted to give a sincere thanks

It is particularly excellent through the 3-4k rom range which after the 30k major service had just become bloody horrid!

No as its an 08 and mine is an 06. Is there nothing else in the list that comes close?

Well I haven't found anything close for an 08.
What is the difference???
Thanks for the help btw

Hey guys, sorry but a bit bewildered at the mo
My 06 SD has the cats and baffles removed but otherwise standard. I'm desperate to remap but the more i read themore i'm confused. It seems like the Akra map with baffles removed would be the map to download but would i be better off fitting the SAS block off plates first? My fuelling is pretty good bar the pops and bangs occasionally but would love to get it spot on. One more ridiculous question-where's the ECU....

Any help greatly appreciated!!!!!!

Cheers AGRO! Was a bit worried mate in case i'd do some damage really. Is it true that the're limited in first and second? That was the main reason i wanted to download the akra amp and disable the SAS system??
I've been checking under the seat and no sign of an OBD port on mine?

First things first drop the RC8 stacks. They do nothing but lose you midrange for a tiny gain at the top and it will probably need a tune to achieve that. Seriously I've seen a comparison on my bike on back to back runs.

Sonic you have a funny setup as you have the main mods but de-cat cans. Not sure what that would do A/F wise. I'm guessing if you ran a map made for a bike with those mods and aftermarket cans it would run rich on your bike. Even with exact matching mods and bike no 2 bikes run the same. Using someone's else's custom map is running the risk of it being lean in certain areas on your bike. Personally I'd get a map made. If that's not an option right now then maybe one of James's smoothed maps, probably better than just the Akra map but still safe.

Cheers Klink. I think i'm overthinking this to be honest, i dont find much wrong with the fueling as is but would like to see what improvements can be made. I have this thing in my head that the're restricted in the first two gears (somebody mentioned it here before) and I wouldnt mind getting to the bottom of it! Thanks again lads

the two Irish lads in a tizzy with the tune ecu on different threads
Head wreaking shit Jay,but it cant be impossible

and if it is,i am getting a PC5

I could,nt get anyone to map with tune ecu on the Island lads, pcv or 3 will do the job, if you want things switched of and you dont have the tunecu stuff bring them up to my house and I will turn everything of thats not needed, jack frost of holeshot mapped my bike, good fella if you can get hold of him you should be able to pick up a pc3 cheap enough and will do the same job as the 5,

uncheck the EPC box in TuneEcu and you have derestricted the 2-3 gears

So my mapping issue is sorted out.
Loaded the Akra map to get her home from her winterdepartment.
And in one week i will get a custom mapping with a PCIII.

Can anyone give me a link where its discribed how to get a PCIII map into a TuneECU map?? Details for Dummys would be great

Stalker the compassionate.

Good evening guys!
I could use your advise / help here
A friend has a 06 superduke with akra slip on cans and currently running the akra map.
he wants more power, so he ordered a cpr rottweiler airbox and sas block off plates.
And we will fit a PC3.(Need PC3 to dyno in Norway)
I will untick SAI and EPC with my TuneEcu cable.
Now we need a suiting PC3 map, Any ideas witch ? ?
Or a Tune ECU map.. and run a zero map in the PC3..
cpr offers a map for a 08 stock bike running only cpr box, suppose i cant load that to the 06 bike but why is that ? different ECU ?

Can someone tell me, what the differnce is between an 06 and 08 Superduke regarding Software in ECU as well as in Powercommander??

06 and 07 have different engines as far as I know. Different cams.

Which of the maps is best for an 2005 SD with TuneEcu and open HP Corse exhaust. Akra Smoothened?

Hi,
Need some help to pick the best map for my set up.

SD -07
I removed the 2:nd flies and shaft
installed a Rottweiler filter
and have the slipon Titanium Akrapovic Silencer Set with BD killer out
SAS is blocked
RC8 stack (can easily swap back to original stacks)

What would be the best map for me?

TIA

Anyone have a cable i can borrow to try a few maps just out of interest please ?

Ok I'd like to share my new map with you guys as well.
Basically it's James his open airbox fuel map loaded into my own smoothened Akra map so without the ignition advance.
On my setup it works great, power everywhere and very aggressive without any signs of running lean. I didn't had the chance to dyno the bike but since the map is made for an open airbox I figure it should be at least as rich as on James his bike.

My setup:
- Open pipes
- No flies, SAS and O2
- Airbox triangles removed
- RC8 stacks

I've set all the F/L to 50 and upped the rev limiter to 9950rpm. Even though the flies are turned off, they are set to 100% so the only thing to do for bikes with flies is to check the box.

Hi

Is there huge difference with Acra and yoshi slip-ons?
2006 SD, secondaries removed, stock filter, yoshi slipons - Is it OK to use this map?:
06 Akra smoothened
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/86688880/TuneEC ... thened.hex

And does SAS removal make any difference regarding fuelling maps?
As far as I know, it gives extra air to exhaust...but...

Tnx!

No it doesn't matter what brand it is. Sas won't matter, the akra map is very rich anyway

Thank you for your answer!

I'm getting soon my cables...so hacking starts
Seems, that next move should be airbox replacement then.

Seeking advice on whether any of the maps posted here are likely to be safe for use with my bike, spec following upgrade this weekend will be:

MH Airbox
RC8 stacks
SAS removed
O2 sensors off
2ndary flies and shafts removed
Akra slips ons (baffles in)

I've identified two possibilities from this thread:

1) 07+ EU SD Akra Smoothened map
2) Jermo's map SD 07 mapping no flies, no SAS, no O2, opened up airbox, open pipes, RC8 stacks

With respect to (1), I'm guessing this map was done for a bike with a standard airbox so might run lean?
The second option seems like it's close, although baffles are still in on my bike.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

any one got a link to pc3 map for the following spec:

07 sd uk
2nd flies removed
o2's bypass
open airbox
sas removed/blanked
akro's no baffles

thanks

Just done some mods to sd:
07 superduke ,
akros,
sas/2nd flies removed,
sas plates (Morris) ,
PC3 ,
HID light ,
single seat cover ,
open airbox mod ,
bmc filter ,
TuneEcu remap,

Bike feels much smoother around 20/30mph in traffic. And power feels to come I much quicker.
Tho I've lost the popping on deceleration could this be the tuneEcu map or more the removal of the SAS? As I like the popping.

I may just reload the original map and just use the pc to adjust things.
Is there any advantage over tuneEcu or pc3 ? Is there any point running pc on remapped Ecu?

Cheers

Only tuners near me are dynojet dealers so powercommander its gonna have to be.
I'm going to reload the original Ecu map and just use pc.

Went out yesterday and my mate said it smelt a bit lean when he was following.
Anyone got a link to a pc map for my spec?

Hiya

I have the following:

05 sd uk
o2's bypass
MH Airbox
sas removed/blanked
Standard headers with custom single pipe conversion by racefit. (Loud as hell)

What map should I use?

Thanks

Si

Need a bitt of advice.

SD 07, Acra Ti slip-on,
Installed CPR and removed flies and shafts,
blocked SAS.

But I want have time to do a dyno until autumn. And this summer’s trip is coming up with about 1500+ km’s. I don’t want to damage the bike.

Which map would be my best/safest option?

/Matt

2006 SD, secondaries removed, stock filter, yoshi slipons.

Is there possibility that standard map would be too lean if only mods are removed secondaries and yoshi slip-ons?
Do those mods alter fuel/air mixture a lot? For me seems little too ritch with original map also...exhaust is covered with black dust inside..

I tried acra smoothened map, but it smells SOOOO ritch.

Both maps run fine. Especially after balancing TB-s

Hi everybody,

I'm new to this forum and a new owner of a KTM. I want to improve the low RPM jerkiness and hopefully get more power out of the bike. Also seems to run rich since it smells like gas when I stop.

California 2008 Superduke with stock map
Superduke R Engine installed new in 2010 with 52mm throttle bodies
Moto Hooligan - SAS removed
FMF Apex carbon exhaust
O2 and Gang sensor disabled
Evaporative canister removed

I really appriciate your help. Never used TuneECU but just ordered the cables I will need for it.

15mun reset, will do
BGP: I've read plenty about it, and thought you would recommend re-greasing it.
I'm thinking I'm not following all the procedures when Adjusting the TPS and idle when downloading the map. Also won't let me un-tick any boxes(?)
SAS, 02 etc...

[quote="NolaNomad"]15mun reset, will do
BGP: I've read plenty about it, and thought you would recommend re-greasing it.
I'm thinking I'm not following all the procedures when Adjusting the TPS and idle when downloading the map. Also won't let me un-tick any boxes(?)
SAS, 02 etc...[/quot


You need to right click on it first.
The bgc can get moisture in it so you need to dry it out and put electrical grease in there.

Your right Agro!!

Someone here recommended that map for my 08 and it was terrible.
Im lucky nothing was damaged

Can anyone confirm what the word flies in the title of this map means?

08 SDR Shade fuel - Otto ignition - motobox - flies - pipes.hex (meant to be an awesome map)

Does it mean flies in, or flies out.

Beyond that, can anyone recommend a map for 09 SDR, Rotweiller intake, Leo Vince exhausts and flies/shafts removed?

Thanks.

Ahhh, good idea. Thanks.

Hi all,

I'm looking for a new map for my 07 SD. I now have Akra slip-ons, motohooligan airbox, sas removed, dont know about the butterflys (ovals or std, i think i will remove them anyway this winter).

Will this one be ok?
08 akra map with klinks pc111 map.hex (so Akra slip, Motobox, Hooligan SBV)

The bike runs great now the only thing i notice the snatchy trothle response and at low revs it has a kind of on/off effect so i can't ride it comfortable at low speeds.

Thanks in advance!

Maybe this one?
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14763&start=600#p266128

Hey Guys,
Been lurking here for a few months trying to sort out my new-to-me '07 SD after lowsiding my beloved ZRX. I bought a box stock bike with 7K easy commuter miles and all service/maintenance records for $6,500! The very next item below it on Craigslist was a set of new-in-the-box Leo Titanium slips for $400. Since I was the only caller in 2 months, I got them for $300! So, my motor mods to this point are:
Leo Cans
Canisterectomy
SAS delete
O2 delete
Fly plates removed, shafts still in
K&N filter
Modified airbox by fitting a 4"x4" filter into a hole cut in the lid and removing snorkle for additional air.

I did all of this the 2nd week I had it and balanced the throttle bodies and loaded James's smoothened Akra map. I've been fairly pleased with it, but felt that it was being held back a bit. Last week, for grins and giggles, I loaded James's modified Rallsy map and HOLY @*$#! It REALLY woke it up! However, it now has a slight pop/burble on decelleration that had completely disappeared when I did the SAS delete. It is not a really significant, distracting pop, burble and other than that, EVERY other aspect of its running is significantly better! I've sent James a PM, but he hasn't been on here regularly lately.

My question is, is this new pop/burble an indication that the map is too lean for my setup? Other than melted pistons or a pipe sniffer, what are the tell-tale signs of an overly lean condition? I'd really love to run this map, but only if I'm assured that it is sufficiently rich enough. Thanks for any knowledgeable input you guys can offer!

OK guys. I've been running the James/Rallsy hybrid map for 2 weeks and it runs great. However, I pulled the exhaust off tonight to replace the graphite gasket....yes it was breached.......and I noticed that both of my head pipes are really grey/white. I was kinda expecting them to be really dark. Is this an indication that I am too lean with this map?

Ciao
I need map my bike.
But i can't find correct map
My bike as 05. But have 08 throttle 52mm body, 08 cdi box ,rc8 stacks, remus oversize header , 2nd fly out , biggher ROTTWAILER style airbox , o2 eliminator , SAS removed
The exhaust as side exhaust 2 in 2 not standard 2 in1in 2 under The seat
Thanks

Hey men, I am at a loss here..i guess i posted in the wrong section.
my bike
2007 US model
rotty air filter
Akra slip ons
SAS removed
i want to leave the second flys in because i like the engine breaking.

we have shit gas here so only 91 octane

im running the smoothed out map and its tame and i would like more.

its sunny today perfect day for trying maps.

Hey folks, trying to get my head around some of the '08 SD maps. Is the guy's "possibly the best for slip ons" map set up for a stock airbox or an aftermarket airbox? I don't get what would be the intended configuration difference between that map and the guy's "most suited to air filter not airbox" map would be. It has the same notes too, which confuses me more.

I've got an '08 SD, with Leo slip ons and db killers installed, stock airbox, stock filter, blocked sas, flies and o2 sensors still installed, running 10% ethanol 93 gas. I've tried 3 maps now but haven't been totally happy with any of them:
1. Stock Akra map: great mileage (like 50+ avg mpg balls-out in the colorado mountains!), but not much power up top, a pretty bad 3500rpm sputter, and tons of engine braking
2. Akra Map Smoothened: terrible mileage (about 35 mpg commuting in florida), leaves a bad exhaust smell on my clothes, about the same power up top, but less engine braking and very smooth across low rpms. Mostly I'm afraid of the carbon cake I'll find inside my engine if I keep running this one.
3. file08_guy's_most_suited_to_air_filter: haven't run long enough to check mileage. Revs clean out to redline with nice power up top, no audible knocking, but the transition near 3500rpm is just as bad as the first map. Surprisingly the engine braking is even less than the "smoothened" map, and there's no noticeable exhaust smell. But the low-rpm stumble is intolerable.

So what should I try next? Do you think the guy's "best for slip ons" is safe from knocking on US fuel with my setup at sea level, even though it's so lean? Or should I try the EVO4 map which seems to be similar but richer? Or one of the other ones like Grim990_low_alt?

Also, is anyone having a problem ticking and un-ticking boxes in TuneECU? I'd like to try turning the o2 sensors back on in guy's map if I use it, but TuneECU is not being responsive to clicks over those boxes. I'm using version 2.5.4 on windows 7.

Hi!
Im new here and ive recently (late august) bought my first ktm. A Superduke 2007.

On purchase it was mapped with akra evos and bmc filter. 115whp on a pc3.

Bur now ive started to do more some mods:
Rottweiler intake
removed sas
removed 2nd flies
RC8 Trumpets

So now im asking you guys if you have any recommendations for a map that i could use? I prefer pc3 map because i dont have a tune ecu cable and i dont want to get rid of my pc3 just yet because of future tunings on the dyno.
But if i have to buy a tune ecu cable i will

I live in sweden so i use 98 octane fuel.

I would say this one is the closest to your setup: 07SDR_AkraEvoSlip_Motobox_SBV_StockECU.DJM

Since I'm bored a bit I tought I'd have a loop for a new map.
My setup:
2007 EU SD
Gutted stock exhaust
Motobox
2nd flies removed
Sas removed
o2 sensors removed

Currently running the smooth Akra map. Before this I used this one: 07 SD, Motobox, Moto secondary files, SAS removed, 97-98 ron fuel. Rallsy's Map. But didn't feel like it was running really great. The smooth akra map was better. But I still feel like there is improvement possible.
Narrowed it down to 4 different maps.
And now wondering if anybody can give me some feedback on the following maps:
08 akra map with klinks pc111 map.hex (so Akra slip, Motobox, Hooligan SBV)
08 SD james' map for grim and motobox modified from rallsy's info.hex
Zoddas' map he posted 2 pages back
Jermo's map posted 2 back.
Anybody with a similar setup tried these maps?

I'm new at this forum and this summer I bought a 2011 SDR with full akrapovic exhaust system and the org akrapovic map.

I want som more power and smoother engine, so by the winter I going to upgrade my bike with:

-Rottweiler airbox
-RC8 stacks
-Remove the SAS system

Not sure if I am going to remove the secundary flies or not (any suggestions?).

I am also currently running on stock ECU so far.

Does anyone know or have any suitable map for me?

Do you have a euro or US bike?

Oh, I'm sorry I forgot to mention that. I have EU bike

Where find database map?

hi guys, been out of circulation for a while. Just got my new throttle position sensor and i need to hook up again to the tuneEcu. been a year since i last did the procedure and now at a loss on which hex file to use. Changed too my crashed laptop to a newer one with windows 8.1 and initiated the procedure of force installing the driver for the QSBD cable. Now i'm set but confused on which hex file to load. Here is my bike spec:
06 SD 990 superduke
stage 3 DNA filter
akra slip ons
removed the sas and plugged
02 eliminator installed
flys still in, stock venturi intakes

Now Klinks map shows djm and not hex file so i can't upload the file to the software. any way around this or if anyone here has a good file i can use, please link me to one. Not into the racing circuit but more on the touring thing.

many thanks and God bless
larry

[quote="nampus"]

Not sure what they mean with otto ignition though.

[quote]

The Otto ignition curve comes from an Austrian tuner who was one of the first tuners to adapt tuneecu and spent significant time on the dyno to sort the fuel but also the ignition.
His ignition curve seems to work very well and has been "imported" in other maps with great success, including on my bike. He did one for the Sd and SDR.
His original maps are posted on the tueecu site.

Hi everyone,
I work on a new airbox and looking for a suitable map for tune ecu for this setup

SD 05/06
akrapovic slip ons
performance airbox (round filter)
SAS off
RC8 stacks (or original)

help me someone?
My english is not so good to search in this web.. it is too much sites here

thanks a lot guys (y)

Corela

Also hoping for input, I fitted my rottweiler box a couple of weeks ago and have been running that tune. Bike is performing great but I'm going to be pulling stock cans and installing akrapovic slipons in the next couple of weeks. I will need a tune for the few days before making it down to the dyno tuner (400km away).

This will be my setup

2008 SD US
Rottweiler intake
Akrapovic oval slip-ons (with/without baffles, not sure yet)
Secondary flys left installed. I will not be removing these after strong urging from my tuner to leave them in.
SAS deleted
o2 sensors deleted
Charcoal deleted
Stock velocity stacks

SAS is in and SAI is ticked.
O2 is unticked.
How can I see or check what is fuel ratio? Other then going to tuner garage...

Oh and now is 95 petrol inside.

Ok, first impresions after 50km round trip.
Bike feels different mostly because I`m used for smoothe ride with akra smoothened map. Guys map does not have second flies opened all the time.
Bike has (looks like) more power over 7krpm (aprox). I could say that there is some punch after... Arround 4k there is more vibration from engine and sound is little different.

I must do more km to see if this map is better.

Did anybodi tried to open second flies in Guys map?

I aslo must untick SAI because this amount of poping is annoyng...

Box is ticked, i'm talking about 100 value you put in a map and second flies stays open

Can anyone please pm me the new akra smoothened map please sorry if its here I cant find it im a newbie i have a 05 with akra round titanium short pipes ( I have shortened them) no o2 sen no flies k&n air filter original air box
Cheers Brent

Thats all I did when i first put the Yoshi's on my bike just ran stock map turned the other stuff off in tuneecu
and put a marble in the hose that runs from sas to back of airbox.

Hi guys,
First of all apologies if I'm duplicating the question, but I am a proper noob here and only picked up my 2005 superduke 990 couple of days ago.

Its a 2005 UK model, running MIVV cans, rest is standard best to my knowledge.
It is a bit jerky on/off throttle.

What would be the best map you can recommend for this model/set up?

Should I only use the '05-'06 maps? and NOT the '07 + ...?

Never messed around with tuneECU before, and am quite scared tbh, but you all seems to be fairly confident and experienced with it.
Is there anything I should know before I connect and start uploading different maps for test?

Any specific procedure I should follow? Something I should definitely NOT do?

And the 15minutes idle reset, is that need to be done after ever upload? I can't find any info about it.

Thank you all in advance.

I would just run 05 or 06 maps as I think they run different timing to the later bikes.
Some say to do 15min reset some don't the KTM dealer will always do the 15 min reset.
When I use a new map I used to always do the 15 reset but I don't anymore just load and ride.
Don't be to scared of tuneecu its not that bad and if I can do anyone can
The only thing you should do is save the map that your bike is running before uploading other maps.

If the minus is taking fuel out, and I load the zero map like you stated before wouldn't that be adding more fuel back make it run richer? (Taking the minus columns and taking them more towards positive direction)

Sorry just confused a little.

Anyone used/using this map?

06 Akra smoothened
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/86688880/TuneEC ... thened.hex

I will be uploading this next week, just wanted to know if anybody actually have any opinions on it?

Is there any danger o running the bike with 2ndry flies open and 02 sensors off the whole time?
Any opinions are much appreciated.

Good stuff!

Did Vikings map (05 custom map for pod filters) ever get uploaded or has anyone got a copy they could email me? Cheers

hi guys,

could someone please help with advice...!? I'm newbie in TuneECU things...
bike - 06 SD EU, Leo Vince carbon slip-ons(running without bufflers), no other mods.

Already with stock exhaust it wasn't smooth at all and when I installed Leo's it gone worse.
TuneECU cable received today.
Which map You would suggest for smoother ride etc?

Maybe someone could explain in short about SAS and 2nd files?! Afraid to mess up something!
Last few days I have read some much info, that my head is overheated!

Looks like you are in the same position I was until yesterday
I've got an 05 SD, running MIVV race cans, other than that all stock. I was asking guys on this forum for help and it the end I chose the 06akra smoothened map and sucesfully uploaded it yesterday. What a difference! The bike is smooth as ever. It does pop and bangs on deceleration, but go for it.
One thing tho - save your current map, just in case.
But then again, I'm sure somebody else can explain things better than me.
Good luck with it.

In a way I do like these pops...but sometimes they are too much.
-Any danger of having these pops and bangs in a long run?
-likewise, any danger of blocking the SAS pipe?
any pro's and cons please?
thanks in advance!

Yes, I know I'll need a 07+ map. The map I downloaded was titled "08 U.S. Standard SD motobox, SAS removed, secondary flies removed, FMF Apex cans, O2 eliminators, No DB" from the first page of this thread, but when opened in software it says 2005. I was just hoping to clarify which year it was really for.

Yes mak, that is gonna be your best bet and is the one I'm using with my Rottbox.

Cheers Jam, i'll upload it tomorrow and try it out



***EDIT****

Just uploaded klincks map but i still had the manually disable the 2nd fly's to get rid of F1 light, they where ticked 'on' on klinck's map,,,, is that right??

Tried the map but there is quite a bog down at 4k so gonna have to try another map.....

Cheers pm sent

Just when I was about try different maps...my laptop packed up. Need to get this sorted.

On the other note, does anybody know what would happen if in the middle of downloading the map the system would crash...or something?
Can you then reconnect to the ECU and start over, or is it...well, you know, ducked?

Jambox, the map you sent feels spot on, cheers bud

Can anyone suggest a safe tune for my California 2008 bike? I have searched and searched with no luck. We have 91 octane out here, and it drives me insane.

I have a 2008 US SD990
Leo Vines slip ons, baffles out
SAS block off
Canister removed
Rottweiler intake
secondary flies removed

I'm installing tonight and want to get something ready to go.

Thanks in advance,
Ryan

Aphex, just sent PM. Need TuneECU fuel map for 08 SD 990 (US). Rotty airbox, SAS blocked off, Arka Slipons, O2 sensors turned off.

Mods, can we get this map I have in the OP? Let me know where I need to upload it and I'll give you the link.

Sorry guys I forgot I took all the maps offline when that douche took the forum over. I'll work on getting all the links working again over the weekend.

Aahh cool! Thanks man

Hey guys could i please get some advice on which map to choose as well...I'm not sure where it stands mainly in relation to the EU/UK/US/AU side of things and map choices. A smoothened map would be appreciated. Road use only running 98 octane.

AUSTRALIAN bought 2008 SDR : 98 octane fuel.
Tune ECU (no power commander fitted), ITG air intake base plate and filter fitted, secondaries removed and blocked and Akro's fitted with db killers removed.
My guess would be one of these two :

08-10 US SDR Akra Smoothened
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/86688880/TuneEC ... thened.hex

or

08-10 EU SDR Akra Smoothened
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/86688880/TuneEC ... thened.hex
Thanks in advance.

Yes EU map

Ok thanks guys. I usually do you use the search function but typing in AUS didn't occur to me this time. Cheers !

Guys until I sort out all the links sorted just ping me a PM with your email and which map you need and I'll email it over.

Have similar set up and smoothened map didn't work for me - if same for you, try James' (Jocke's) map on TuneECU website.

Hi guys,

Can i savely run the Akra Smoothened map on a standard Superduke with only the akra cans?
I mean, SAS is still installed, 2e throttle body still installed, O2 senor ect ect...

And.. I live in a populated neighborhood.. how important is it to let the bike idle for 15 mins?