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dyno run at the fest

82 posts · Started by stalker · 16 Jun 2013

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Right people . Can I have some idea of numbers for doing a run on the dyno at the fest. Speaking with parkitt about a deal and he would like a rough idea. Plan is to chuck each bike on in quick succession and just do one pull each. No tuning as that can be done another time.
Stalker
GAydan
Kluncky
I'm up for it
Count me in
I had a chat with Tony from Parkitt recently about it and he's well up for it. Plan was to do it on Monday evening with a few beers. Should be a giggle and an interesting database for mods against years and models.
Stalker
GAydan
Kluncky
Cerec
Woody
reaper of the gin variety .....
If it's cheap enough then why not.
Im in ....
Remember guys we should have a PC3 at the fest so if your A/F is miles out or you fancy a tune /tweak up that should be possible.
Gaydan is that me? If so I'm in-oh er.
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i'm in
Yeah, go on then
Right then. If we have ten or more it will be £10 a pull. He is going to speak to john about noise. So it might have to be done in the evening session. But he will do what he can. If you then want anything done it can be done on the open pit day.
If its only a tenner then I'm in
Count me in for this
Damn in you blokes, No treatment like that here in the States.
Get you quid worth.
Enjoy
Stalker
GAydan
Kluncky
Cerec
Woody
reaper of the gin variety
millar
ktm666
paul81
dubsandnaps
blb
tony the tiger

cool . this will be interesting
I predict a few miffed faces
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My 07 SDR is obviously low fat version.
Highest torque figure might be the winner round Cadwell
Dyno's only measure torque ...and calculate hp from this
please fill in what you got people, and anyone else who wants a go on the dyno just add your name

Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras
GAydan -
Kluncky
Cerec
Woody
reaper of the gin variety
millar
paul81
dubsandnaps
blb
tony the tiger
Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras
GAydan -
Kluncky
Cerec
Woody
reaper of the gin variety
millar
paul81
dubsandnaps
blb
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
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Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed
reaper of the gin variety
millar
paul81
dubsandnaps
blb
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
Fuel 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.
You booked now Nigel?
Looks like I have been removed from the list....
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Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed
reaper of the gin variety
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons
paul81
dubsandnaps
blb
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
Fuel 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.
Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed
reaper of the gin variety -pc3, 2ndry flies removed, akra evo end cans, CPR Rottweiler intake,Track electronics map
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons
paul81
dubsandnaps
blb - 10 RC8, DNA Filter, Projex map, most powerful/quietest/slowest KTM
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
Fuel 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.


Gaydan - some ropey old italian rubbish..

Edited for accuracy..
Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed
reaper of the gin variety -pc3, 2ndry flies removed, akra evo end cans, CPR Rottweiler intake,Track electronics map
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons
paul81 - 07 sd moto box, akros, flies/shafts out, sas out.
dubsandnaps
blb - 10 RC8, DNA Filter, Projex map, most powerful/quietest/slowest KTM
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
Fuel 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.


Gaydan - some ropey old italian rubbish..
Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed
reaper of the gin variety -pc3, 2ndry flies removed, akra evo end cans, CPR Rottweiler intake,Track electronics map
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons
paul81 - 07 sd moto box, akros, flies/shafts out, sas out.
dubsandnaps - 08 SD, Motobox, SAS/flies/shaft out, Akras, Tune ECU remap by DWR
blb - 10 RC8, DNA Filter, Projex map, most powerful/quietest/slowest KTM
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
Fuel 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.


Gaydan - some ropey old italian rubbish..
How about doing a noise test as well? Obviously we'll all have to be tested anyway but is it worth recording these results for comparison?
Always seems to be tricky to find out otherwise?

Quietest buys a round?
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Fortunately (for me) we normally buy a load of booze on the way which all goes in the coolboxes, ice dustbins etc.
Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed
reaper of the gin variety -pc3, 2ndry flies removed, akra evo end cans, CPR Rottweiler intake,Track electronics map
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons
paul81 - 07 sd moto box, akros, flies/shafts out, sas out.
dubsandnaps - 08 SD, Motobox, SAS/flies/shaft out, Akras, Tune ECU remap by DWR
blb - 10 RC8, DNA Filter, Projex map, most powerful/quietest/slowest KTM
tony the tiger 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111
Fuel 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.
Sabre - 07 SDR,motobox,Akra slip ons, Akra map with SAS removed.........Fray Bentos Traction Control


Gaydan - some ropey old italian rubbish..
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Not wanting us all to see the 150 up is it bud Anyway I've already slipped Tony a score to show at least 155+ with your bike so you have to dyno it now
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Ok, you twisted my arm
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thinkking about this, as mines not a Superduke I'm not gonna bother with this. The cash will help pay for tyre changes
depends, they need 10 apparently, now Klinck is out of the running we may need extra.
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Early results??
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Lowest was Ginge @104 highest was woody with 120 iirc. Results were all over place, bottom line pot luck what bhp you get, James 08 SD beat some old 05/06 bikes.

I got a cheeke 143bhp.
Did Ronin do his or was it too fooked from crash?
This just emailed to me. Millar back in plaster

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In fairness good job he had it dynoed to show it was not well as he planned on repairing it for tomoz.
Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers..........................................................................................116.3
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.......................................................................................................no show
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex.............................................................................113
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed............................................................................120
reaper of the gin variety -pc3, 2ndry flies removed, akra evo end cans, CPR Rottweiler intake,Track electronics map...................... ..112
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons............................................................................................112
paul81 - 07 sd moto box, akros, flies/shafts out, sas out...................................................................................................115.7
dubsandnaps - 08 SD, Motobox, SAS/flies/shaft out, Akras, Tune ECU remap by DWR.............................................................111
blb - 10 RC8, DNA Filter, Projex map, most powerful/quietest/slowest KTM.........................................................................no go
tony the tiger - 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111................................................................................................119.8
Fuel - 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.........................................................112
Sabre - 07 SDR,motobox,Akra slip ons, Akra map with SAS removed.........Fray Bentos Traction Control....................................107.6
monty - .................................................................109
lawman - ...................................................................111

taity -gsxr 750 ...................................................................................128
Gaydan - some ropey old italian rubbish...........................................................................................................................................143
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So by my maths the average is:

05/06 SD 112BHP
07> SD 112BHP
07 SDR 110 BHP
08 SDR 19.5 BHP
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Interesting results these.

So pretty much all the bikes make the same power give or take a few bhp apart from the full fat SDR's.. I suspect the early bikes vs late bikes feel different with the way they make their power, but just shows overall there's nothing in it

The bit that jumped out at me is the gsxr750 power. . No wonder I can't hang with the bloody things on the straights!

Pretty interesting too just how far out dynos can be. There was Nick's (rip dude ) bike showing 140bhp on one dyno and every other sd making 28bhp less on another with the same spec motors and mods. !
The 750 is rather impressive Viking!

My Y model was a real missile.
I entered my details, the only one with a standard airbox.

Stalker -06sd-motobox,flies out,akras....newly fitted stabilisers..........................................................................................116.3
Kluncky - 08 SDR, Full system, Moto, 2nd flies in.......................................................................................................no show
Cerec 07 SDR. Full Evo MH Airbox, 2nd files in(I think) Mapped by Projex.............................................................................113
Woody - 09 SDR, Akro Headers, FMF cans, MH box, MH flies, PCV, SAS removed............................................................................120
reaper of the gin variety -pc3, 2ndry flies removed, akra evo end cans, CPR Rottweiler intake,Track electronics map...................... ..112
millar - 06 SD, motobox PC3, 2ndary flies out, akra slip ons............................................................................................112
paul81 - 07 sd moto box, akros, flies/shafts out, sas out...................................................................................................115.7
dubsandnaps - 08 SD, Motobox, SAS/flies/shaft out, Akras, Tune ECU remap by DWR.............................................................111
blb - 10 RC8, DNA Filter, Projex map, most powerful/quietest/slowest KTM.........................................................................no go
tony the tiger - 08 SDR, motobox, flies out, Yoshimuras PC111................................................................................................119.8
Fuel - 09 Sd, Rottweiler air box, secondary flies out, akra evo's, tune ECU remap by Projex.........................................................112
Sabre - 07 SDR,motobox,Akra slip ons, Akra map with SAS removed.........Fray Bentos Traction Control....................................107.6
monty - .................................................................109
lawman - 05 SD, Standard airbox, 2nd flies still in, Akra system and Akra map...................................................................111

taity -gsxr 750 ...................................................................................128
Gaydan - some ropey old italian rubbish...........................................................................................................................................143
Another interesting stat would be who has a custom map for their bike. Who is running someone else's map and who is running a Akra map.
Get the stats up. I love stats me

Thing is, even at that there is still bugger all difference in 100% throttle runs to peak power.

Where the big difference will be is 30-80-% throttle at different revs, that's where the good mapping comes in. I bet there will be over 10bhp difference in places and maybe even the same in torque.

Overall it was a bit of a shock to see just how low the power is on the SD's in general.
I lost my print out, but what I was confused at was the difference in overall peak revs.
My graph only went to 8750, where in actuality my limiter is at set at 9800.
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Stalker might have all the print outs. If not Parkitt must have em.
Mine had a lovely flat torque trace with a higher peak than Woody's Full Fat motor.
Fuel and myself are both Projex custom maps.
there was a certain amount of sniggering when mine only made 112bhp on the parkitt dyno having not long ago been on the track electronics dyno and made 119bhp...... different days different dyno's whatever - i don't know but the sniggers soon died down when all the SD's started showing the same numbers .... Very happy with the torque figure though!



......and for all the laughing at poor motoronin when his bike made 45 then 107bhp - I've since had the chance to look at his bike in my garage- it made 107 at what i estimate to be about 75% throttle - SDR owners you had a lucky escape i would say!
Didn't see that extra torque out of barn james.(snigger)
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ive thought since the start of ownership my old rsv made more stomp, might not of seen it on a dyno but it felt that way, sdr feels more linear removing the secondarys might not of helped
My first run only produced 104 bhp @9500rpm which I was a tad shocked at so Tony did a second run which although better,still aint very impressive @107 bhp . I reckon I need to get a custom map sorted.

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