Team Orange aka Rough and Ready Racing 2013

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Myself and Stalker are racing in the NoLimits series this year. Primarily we are racing in the 3hr endurance series as a team. Main opponents are Monty and Keith on their ZX10s. NoLimits have just dropped the price of the sprint races to £79 if you are already racing in endurance so we might be doing the Open 1000s as well. Only 5 meets across the year but all great tracks.

29th March Snetterton 300
18th May Oulton Park
29th June Donington Park GP
17th August Cadwell Park
14th September Brands Indy

We are going to struggle at Snetterton and Donington power wise against the IL4s but are already doing a rain dance to level the playing field slightly.

Just off to do our ACUs at Brands today, hopefully shouldn't be a problem.

Will keep the thread updated with pics, vids and hopefully no crashes.

Oh any ideas for s team name????
KTM666

KTM666

'' The Good The Bad & The......

Sorry only two of you

''The Hair Bear Bunch''

''Hair Bear Racing''

Good luck we will try and make it to one of them......
Colonel_Klinck

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CEREC1

CEREC1

Good luck guys. Respect to you two and Viking for getting Superdukes some coverage
Viking

Viking

Best of luck to you boys.

Looking forward to seeing the bikes all kitted out.

I've not checked the rules since all the tdr moaning. Is it for novice licence holders only or could I enter some of the 1000cc short races with a national licence? Be a good laugh having a race weekend outside my own championship where there's no pressure.

Look forward to seeing how you guys get on out there. Fingers crossed you can make a few Thundersport rounds too.
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Viking

Viking

Ah, wasnt sure. I've got a National this year, i think you need 9 top 50% finishes to move from novice/clubman to national. Or in scotland with an SACU licence you can get an enhanced upgrade if you get 5 x top 15% results.

So its clubman only for all classes? I'd though i read ages ago there was to be a mix of clubman and national. Maybe that was endurance teams.

Look forward to seeing how you get on anyway. It'd be good to see all the SD's out on the same grid for a round, thought i could come to you, but look like you guys would need to come to Thundersport. There is only 3 of us racing them in the UK!

I'm sure you guys will do prettty well against some of those sportsbikes. Be good to watch. Best of luck anyway. Get the bike pics up!

Last years clubman top, this years national middle and bottom.
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stalker

stalker

yep done the acu test , which was easy (hey klinck)

endurance has to have at least one novice in the team. not sure on the other classes re clubman/national
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stalker

stalker

yup , well remembered klunk
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Viking

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Ah I see I see. Up here novice and clubman are the same thing. Then you have the fast track clause for high results.

Man. By the looks of that it'd take two full years of racing to get a national in a England. I wonder if you can jump from novice to national in the one year if you finished in the 110% rule. Seems like a right long drawn out process.
Maybe it's just coz Scottish riders are instantly awesome and they know we'll be in motogp within a year so don't wanna hold us back.

What you guy doing for tyres for the endurance races? Staying with the usual or having to go to harder compound?
stalker

stalker

a lot of bsb teams have shown an interest in klinck , and are looking to sign him in 2014

looking at running the conti race attacks myself as they ave to be road stamped .
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stalker

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11. TYRES: Tyres with a V or Z rating must be used, only tyres on general sale to the public will be permitted. The depth of tyre treads must be at least 2.5mm over the whole of the tyre tread (pattern) width, at pre race control. The tyre must have an E mark or DOT (American Department of Transportation) approval and the DOT number must appear on the tyre wall. Wet race tyres made be used and may be fitted to an extra set of spare wheels. Slick tyres are NOT permitted in any class.
Superdan

Superdan

Good luck guys will defo come down to Cadwell and watch, I will "moon" you on the new bridge
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rocketchick

rocketchick

Have a blast Fellas....
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KTM666

KTM666

Hair....Bear Racing
CEREC1

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Not too sure Stalker can claim that label
stalker

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ha ha ha



we are racing mainly against the two others on zx10's (although other scalps will be claimed)

so its team orange v team green
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Snetteton and Donnington are going to be a struggle against them but I think we have a great chance at Cadwell and Brands where all those horses won't be quite as important. Hopefully James is shipping the DVS by the 2nd race so we might pull a few more ponies back for Oulten.
CEREC1

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Which bike are you using
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

We are allowed to use 2 bikes so we just use our own. Rules are team members from 1-4 riders and either use 1 bike or each rider uses their own.
Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

What lay-out do they use at Donny?
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Jody

Jody

thought I posted yesterday but it's not here so..........


good on the pair of you. Best of luck.

Am very jealous, wish I had the time/money/balls

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

^^^^^^^^ LOL - the body of special K adverts speaks!
stalker

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oh ffs . . . .


Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

NoLimits have made the 28th trackday with a ACU group. Now groups are Novice/Inters - Fast- ACU. Will get this booked up in the next few days.
stalker

stalker

already done , like the idea of fast/acu as we get to race the other teams with out the fuss
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Colonel_Klinck

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Look what arrived in the post from James today Even included a taller DNA filter. All set for dyno on Saturday


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Kitten wasn't included

Thanks James, you da man!!
Superdan

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

Cute kitten is cute!
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

With the forum being down we didn't get a chance to post up first race report. Here goes.

We qualified 4th out of 14 for first Endurance race at Snetterton, 2 spots behind Team Green. Not a track we expected to do well at being as it has 2 big straights were we get proper done over by he big Il4s, so very happy with that. I get to start this race. It's a Le Mans start so Stalker holds the bike and I sprint across the track and jump on. Make a good start and am 2nd into first corner. Hold 2nd into turn 3 but Keith of Team Green does me on a small straight but he tucks in behind the guy in front who tips in way to early into 4. I manage to go round the outside of both of them and hold the lead until the big back straight where they fook off past me with that extra 50bhp

Settle in and just try and put in constant laps and keep them in sight. Bike is playing up, missing a lot (found out a week later the TPS has gone again ) about 6 laps in I think I see a black flag waved at me after turn 2. Not learning my flags properly being a noob rookie I make a huge error and come off the track at turn 4. Fight my way back through car park and back to pits. They weren't expecting me and Stalker isn't ready. Panic to swap transponder over and get him out on track. I then head up to end of pit lane to see why I was flagged. Race control say I wasn't. I could swear I saw the marshal with a flag and pointing at me. Rookie mistake by me. Never again will I come off at first flag I think I see. We lost over 4 mins there and put us 2 laps down.

Stalker gets out there and puts in a great 30 mins. We start clawing some time back on leaders and more importantly on the enemy Team Green. James aka The GinReaper who is officially Team Orange manager now does an amazing job running the pits. Ronin, Superdan and Sabre are working the pit board and timing. While I was up at Race Control the scrutineers spot my weeping base gaskets. Looking for a min like they are going to pull me out of the race they wander down to our garage and want to see the belly pan off. I'm telling them its just a small weep when she's being spanked. 2 of them are shaking their heads and I fear the worst. Fortunately the chief used to do the Superduke cup and is aware of the problem. He says "clean it up and I want to see it when you come back in again." James is a legend and gets her ready to race again. I head out and try and just put in some consistent laps. Ronin is holding out the board and I'm doing between 2.12s and 2.15s. I've got all kinds of error codes flashing on the dash. She's misfiring and I'm sure she's going to die on me but that's the only way I'm stopping. Come in after my stint and we swap transponders. 3 of your pit stops have to be a minimum of 3 minutes, as I came off halfway round the track and not into pit lane our first stop doesn't count as one

Stalker is back out again and puts his foot down. Doing 2.10s - 2.12s. I have scrutineering breathing down my neck again. I beg for a break and he agrees to let me back out but we have to take belly pan off after every stint and clean the engine off with brake cleaner. We are slowly reeling some time back but it's hard to tell exactly where you are as people make pit stops at different times. It's just a matter of putting in good lap after good lap and see how it pans out. I head out and just try and do the same. When I come in again I head over to pit wall to see how it's panning out. We will have 50 mins left when Stalker comes in again so we decide I'll do a 20 min stint and leave Stalker to do the last 30. My bike is running like shit. Refuses to tick over and I have to keep her running by holding throttle open. Stalker is a good 3 secs a lap quicker so we might have a chance of over taking team Green. As it stands we are 5th and they are 4th. Stalker is on it and Team Green still need to make one more stop. It's starting to get exciting on pit wall.

With just under 15 mins left Monty of Team Green comes in and after swapping transponders Keith heads up pit lane. Just as he gets to end of speed restriction Stalker flies past now it's a mad last 7 laps. 116hp SD with a loon on board vs 180bhp ZX10 with a man who sooo doesn't want to lose. We are all on pit wall now waiting to see them come round the long right hander before they hit the straight. Every lap Stalker is keeping the gap. We just have GO!!! written in pit board ad lots of crazy hand gestures aimed at him. Starts last lap and he's still got a good 8ecs lead! That 2.10 mins seems to last forever! We finally see him round the right and he's still out in front! Crosses the line 8 secs ahead of the green bike what a result! Stalker doesn't come off the track after turn 3 like he's supposed to and into holding area and instead does a lap of honour

So the piss taking and gloating begins Monty wants to make an official complaint that Stalker didn't come off at correct point and get us a penalty no joy with that though. Adrenaline is sky high, was such amazing fun and for it to come down to 8 secs after a 3 hour race is pretty amazing. After about 15 mins Keith walks back into garage with official timing sheets. To our amazement and joy the team finishing 3rd have been given 2 time penalties for not doing 3x 3 min pit stops and so we move up to 3rd overall on the podium in our first race at a track we didn't expect to do anything at.

When we finally head up for prize giving it suddenly becomes clear that the 2 teams above us overall are not in the same class as us. It suddenly dawns that we have in fact come 1st in our class and are on the top step with the big trophy Team Green are 2nd in class and on the step below. There may or may not have been some piss taking at this point

So all in all a brilliant day. We've exceeded all expectations and not only made the podium but got first place.

A massive thank you to Ronin, Superdan and Sabre for coming along and helping out. The GinReaper is singled out for extra thanks. He went above and beyond in the days leading up to the race to get my bike running again. Without him I wouldn't have been racing. Cheers bud you're a legend

Next round is Oulton Park on the 18th May. Can't bloody wait!
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Some pics of the race

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Stalker

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The winners with trophy

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Tony the Tiger

Tony the Tiger

Well done guys, you did really well against the il4's, good luck for the next round at Oulton
KTM666

KTM666

Great write up........fantastic result

You need to list Team Greens Excuses.......
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KTM666

KTM666

Too true results count.......laurals to the victors ......but the excuses taste good

Orange and Green ....Good luck for today guys

.....I thought Monty was on his ZX10......So its Team Bluey Green......
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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

Great report.

I had a proper little LOL.

Fantastic work fellas.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Well the next round is here. Heading off this afternoon to Oulton Park. Never been there so I have tomorrow to learn the track and the new SDR. Weather is looking ok for tomorrow but not so great for race day. Endurance race kicks off at 1pm so it's time to mount those rain tyres and get the waterproofs on. Will keep you updated if possible. GinReaper and Ronin are there running pits and pit board again.

fuel

fuel

Good luck guys, I think Oulton is the best circuit in the UK, you'll love it!
KTM666

KTM666

Good luck.......give team ''Brown'' a good basting
Tony the Tiger

Tony the Tiger

Good luck guys.......... Looking forward to reading your report CK
JohnJJr

JohnJJr

Good luck guys!
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Can't make this one due to work,but good luck to both orange and green teams,have a cracking weekend chaps but don't let Ronin tempt you down the pub Team Orange all the way for the win
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Good Luck Guys!!!!!
KTM666

KTM666

Not the best day for Team Orange guys Full report to follow after a good nights sleep but eveything that could go wrong did and both bikes ended up getting a lift back to the paddock in the marshals van and Stalker in the ambulance.after massive highside and knocking himself out when it started raining with 20 mins to go He is ok and both bikes are repairable. Such a shame as we had an awesome test day on Friday and were on the pace until it all went wrong. Shit happens though and we will be back for Donny. I really need my bed now, fooking dead on my feet.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

...hope he is ok
No. 47

No. 47

Ok here goes. First off all what a fooking awesome track Oulton Park is First time there for me and although it only takes a couple of sessions to learn it, its such a fast circuit with a couple of blind corners so it takes a while before you can commit. Its super narrow and if you get it wrong its on to the grass at speed and so most likely off.

ACU day on Friday went really well. We had been promised rain for both days all week but it never arrived on Friday. I don't mind riding on wets but I'd rather learn the track in the dry. First time out on the SDR and the first session the rear shock as clearly not working properly. Was getting zero grip and was all over the place. Headed to see the suspension guy and he made a few changes to get it working properly. Spent the morning leaning it and building speed. Managed to put in some 1.57s in the afternoon which isn't bad. SDR was brilliant. So planted, loved to corner and the extra grunt is awesome

The promised rain arrives in the night. Its's stopped by the time we get up and although the wind is drying some of the concrete areas the track is wet. Stalker is doing the open sprint race as well as Endurance so his qualifying is just before Endurance. Some people are on wets but we are being told half the track is wet and the other half almost dry. Stalker heads out on Racetecs and his session is red flagged and he pops back to the garage and says its too wet for them. GinReaper and Ronin who have once again stepped up and driven for hours to help out get my bike swapped to 2CTs as its the closest to an inter we have and I don't want to ruin a rear rain tyre just to qualify in what is after all a 3 hour race.

FInally head out. Its a tad scary in places. Turn 1 Old Hall, which is a corner I struggled to go flat out at all weekend is dry all the way through until the exit when you need to get on the gas 2CTs are good in the damp but my head isn't allowing me to crack open the throttle. Its then dry all the way until Clay Hill (my fav part of the track) It's wet all the way through here and there is a fresh section of tarmac that is in the braking zone that looks super slick and is just that. I put in 20 mins and manage to make 1.58s which considering the conditions and tyres I'm happy with. Stalker heads out and gets down into the 1.56s and we qualify 5th.

Racetecs go back on and we kick off at 1pm. I start the race again and its the fab Le Mans start. I make a good start and am 2nd into turn 1. I manage to hold 2nd for 6 laps and am seeing 1.56s on the board. Then get passed by an RSV4. Become aware that right foot peg doesn't feel right at all. Glance down and the fooking thing is working its way lose It's had 1 and 1/2 days to do that and it decides to do it 7 laps into the race. I come into the pits and with the adrenaline flowing make a bad decision. We have to do mandatory 3x 3 min pit stops in the race. We should have done one then but I decide to go back out after a quick tighten losing us 1 min at least. I head back out and am now having to get past the back markers. Do another 7 laps or so and pit board say come in.

Stalker heads out and after 10 mins we know something is wrong when he doesn't appear. Race control tell us he's snapped his chain at Island. Thats a bloody long way from the pits and he has to leg it back in leathers with transponder so I can go back out. Poor fooker. Reaper heads off on mountain bike to meet him when we find out where he is coming from. By that stage he is only 300 yrds from us and looking fit to drop. We've lost 19 mins and when I head out so day is over. Maybe we should have packed up then but that's not what its about. I do 30 mins and come back in. Stalker is looking deflated and says its over because he was hoping they might let him use his ZX10. That of course would be an unfair advantage. I tell him to jump on mine and get out there. Again we should have thought about it and just made it to the finish and taken some points in the championship but adrenaline is funny thing and is screaming at you to just go go go. He puts in some fast laps and does a 1.54 which is pretty quick. I head out for my last session and am feeling pretty fooked half way through, really need to work on my fitness. Oulton is such a physical track. I come in and Stalker heads out again for final stint. About 10 mins in it starts to drizzle. That horrible stuff that isn't rain but is enough to start making the tarmac wet. Suddenly the red flag goes out, not something they like to do in Endurance unless its serious, normally its a safety car that goes out. They have stopped the riders between Druids and Lodge. Lodge into Deer leap is the last corner that is a big dip that goes off camber before you come over Deers Leap trying to keep the front down and onto the pit straight. A rider comes over who came through before they stopped the riders and says he thinks its a KTM that highsided and the rider is laying in the gravel not moving We leg it towards race control and they say 2 riders have crashed at different places and one is No6 which is our number They eventually let the other riders though and we watch them into the pit lane hoping Staker is amongst them but he isn't They tell us to head to medical centre and wait there. He was knocked out and they are bringing him back in an ambulance. I'd be lying if I said a small part of me wasn't wondering about my SDR but the main thing of course is Stalker. They come out after 10 mins telling us he is conscious again and they are observing him before making decision whether he needs to go to hospital. We decide to head to scruteneering and check out my bike. I want to see it and don't want to see it at the same time. They have it locked up as its been involved in a serious incident. They let us in though and it looks like its been in a proper crash but not as bad as I feared. Bars which were straight now look like clip on on right side. Race mask is hanging down, bendable leaver is bent is a way it was never designed to do. Carbon end cap on Akra is cracked. Rear set is half gone, crash bungs did their job big time and looking at the way they are pointing the bike entered landed backwards on the right side on a right bend which is kinda the opposite you'd expect from a highside. Word is he was a good 12ft in the air so he did it with style! Left hand side of the bike is untouched, phew. So all in all not too bad considering the size off the crash.

We head back and they let us in to see him. He's looking slightly dazed and can't remember a thing of what happened and is of course being super apologetic about my bike. Tell him not to worry about it, it aint too bad and main thing is he is ok. The piss taking starts and we have a laugh with the doctor. Ronin then breaks the bin by sitting on it They release him to our charge. Team Green are top lads and Monty drives his van and him back home before heading back to Weymouth with Keith. They managed to get 1st place this time in in our class so are leading the championship. We will need to finish above then in the final 3 rounds to stand a chance. With 2 of them being very well suited to the Superduke we have a good chance. So its repair time and then on to Donnington is a few weeks time.



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Monkeydog

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Post up parts needed - I have OE bars, brake lever, etc.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Good meeting you guys again yesterday at Oulton, your day was similar to mine. Qualified 2nd but crashed hard at Druids on lap 4 of qualifying. Race one was going ok until I made a bad decision, forcing an overtake when it wasn't really on, that left me too hot and on the wrong line for the next corner, banged it over but ran out of clearance and ended up on the grass/straight over the bars when the front dug into the mud...haha... What run off!!!
Race two was just about bringing it home for a signature after a bit of a loss of confidence.
Lap times ended up good enough for top 6 ish but took a while to get there.
I live in Donnington, so if you guys need anything, just shout.

P.S. anyone got some decent settings for my 2013 SDR, I'm 14 ish stone. Cherers
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Jody

Jody

Quality, I'll whizz it up to them during the next round, I've not had it on track yet so might do half a day with it.
Exactly that, fix what's broke, scrape the mud off, get back on and pin it again
Tony the Tiger

Tony the Tiger

Good writeup Clinck, lets hope for better luck next round !
Superdan

Superdan

Excellent write up CK, glad to here Stalker is okay
lawman

lawman

Still a few rounds to go yet guys
The Gin Reaper

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Top lads
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Jermo

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Nice write up, despite the crash it sounds like you had your share of racing fun and learned a lot.
I once helped out with a endurance team and I'd say it's one of the greatest ways to get more track time under your belt (and learn to change wheels fooking fast!)
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Great report Klinck. I can't believe the amount of bad luck you boys have suffered in the last few weeks with the old bike's engine and then all the rest, you are well overdue better times!

GWS Stalker, and best of luck to both for Donnington...
Superdan

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Ouch. how is the rebuild going? Not heard much from Stalker recently? hows he?

I will be honest, hearing the old "12 foot in the air" I had visions more like this:

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stalker

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Its GIF time:

Millar

Millar

total let down on the spectacular front.

what is horrible , is that i still have no memory of what happened at all , looking at the pics doesn't help bring it back either

one minute i was lapping away (quicker than other sd riders , lol) and the next thing i know i am in the medical centre being told to lay still by the doc

klinck says it had started raining , but with my dark visor i totally missed that fact
stalker

stalker

I don't even think that can be classed as a high side....I'd say more belly flop!
Millar

Millar

will take some pics of my lid and put up soon , cant believe it done so much damage from looking at the pics
stalker

stalker

Probably done by the medics as they dragged you into the ambulance by your feet

There's lots of photos of you on the web, they were putting you in compromising poses whilst you were out cold!
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

lol
Millar

Millar

shhh I'm saving those for a special occasion
stalker

stalker

The spit roast pic between Dan and Craigy was a classic
Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

look behind you ben , and you will see a line
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turnip

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I'm getting quotes from printers as I type and Millar is working his photoshop magic
KTM666

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Great thread! Following with interest. Sounds pretty brave to me.
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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

I was KOed in a car crash 20 years ago.

I don't remember anything about the crash, or post crash when the police arrived and I was apparently out of the car and walking around.

My memory starts again about 5 hours later when I woke up (for the 3rd time apparently) in Hospital, with a headache and a bump on my head.

Funny, I woke up and there's a very cute lady doc there. She asked "Do you know who I am?". "No, and I'm sure I would remember you."

She goes on to explain we've been through this a few times already!

Ms Fernandez knocked out her opponent in her last fight with a knee to the face, she recently found out that the girl didn't remember anything of that round.
stalker

stalker

thanks guys for backing up what i have been told by others . its more annoying that i cant understand what and why it happened.

the tyre shows signs of being spun up , but i dont think i would have just done that, as i was actually taking it steady(as reasonable).

i have looked and looked at the pics to try and jog my memory but no joy. the pics are strange in that i go forward and over the front
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Plenty of riders go out the front door on a highside m8. Everyone who said they saw it said you highsided. It was raining, the tyre had been been going around track for nearly 2 hours with the max 3x 3 min break. The corner is off camber and you were overtaking someone so you were probably eager to be past before Deers Leap. You know you like overtaking people m8 Horrible when you can't explain why but I think you'll just have to except that that is what happened and put it out of your mind.
stalker

stalker

yup , time too bury it and move on i guess
Linga

Linga

Well i have been in the wars too broke my collarbone at the track yesterday sd escaped unscathed.
bic_bicknell

bic_bicknell

I've smashed a few windscreens with my noggin high siding mate.
Like Klincky says, over the front happens, glad you're OK and still keen to be out there!
I enjoy seeing your race reports, may even pop over next year as I was thinking of seeing the TT...
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

My one and only high side still haunts me now. I was used to the back tyre moving about and as I did more and more track time those kind of feekings and the feedback I got, ( that is different from years of road riding), become more familiar. But I'd never directly experienced a high side effect, knew about it all in theory but that counts for nothing when it comes to knowing how to react when it happens.

All I remember was that it happened SO FAST! On Clearways at Brands - a corner I'd done countless times. But I was off the racing line and maybe a bit too complacent and suddenly there was a micro second of the feeling of loss of grip but then something new and it all went pear shaped. I still replay the memory in my head and it makes me feel ill! I guess you need to high side a lot to just get used to it. I still don't know what I should have done to try and recover the situation. I can't replay the details well enough to analyse anything. I ended up in hospital for a week with a dodgy back.

Because I'm not a really fast/competitive/frequent rider, it's set me back a lot that incident. I could lie and say a load of macho bollox but actually it's made me loose faith in really running on the edge of my tyres and pushing it and it will be a while I guess before that memory fades.
KTM666

KTM666

I've not highsided yet. Had the rear step out and kick back enough to get my arse out of the seat but never parte company. TBH it's the crash I never want to have. Not the pain that scares me, more the damage that you see happen to bikes going through this. I'm guessing if I keep racing it's only a matter of time before I get to flag my arms and legs through the air.
shadowman

shadowman

I'm sure thats why the Brain blanks out certain bits of memory.......Its easier to 'move on' if you dont keep getting slowmo replays in your head

3 years ago I had a serious accident (started as a saved high side .....turned into mother of all tank slappers) Broke 10 ribs (some flayed) , multi collar bone breaks and two punctured lungs.... woke up in ITU ....for weeks no memory of what happened....7 weeks later I was doing 4 days in Almeria never missed a session.

To this day I only have a vauge memory of the accident...its like a film I saw or a dream I had.....all good in the end...thats why I bought the SD to go to Almeria

I would bet with absolute certainty that you will be ..back to your normal self after a couple of laps sooner the better

(mental note to myself.....pass Stalker on those first few laps ...with GOPRO running...... )
stalker

stalker

No point trying to remember it as it isn't there. Your brain isn't blocking it, it simply didn't lay down a long term memory while you were knocked out so it no longer exists.

We should have a best highside thread. Mine was at Edwina's at Mallory Park. I bet several others here have done the same thing in the same place!! Quite new to track time and just getting used to knee down. Too much juice while cranked over, spun up, shut of (wrong!!) and fling..... Landed on head toalling a new helmet, broke a finger and a bit busted up but still rode the bike over 100 miles home (no choice!)

I did remember that one and the main thing was the sudden unexpected silence. Anybody else recognise this?? One moment its all frantic, noise and focus, the next its just silent and floaty. I honestly had no idea what was happening till I landed

My mate some years later had a lowside at the exact same spot so I got to watch him crawl off the track just as he had me.
ktmguy

ktmguy

the last time i came off was at barn (cadwell) ,low sided and slid , luckily the armco stopped me going too far

had a check over and went two seconds a lap faster in the next session i dont mind crashing , its kind of fun in a weird way

anyway thanks for all the info guys
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

team green suck
blb

blb

Team Orange qualify in 2nd with 1.43.2 Off pole by .4 secs. Team Green 5th. Looking good for the race.
Linga

Linga

Good luck guys
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

GO you crazy buggers!!!!!
Superdan

Superdan

Well we managed to bring a cup home again We finished 5th overall and 2nd in our class. TBH I didn't really get to grips with Donny. Struggled at Redgate and Melbourne Loop all day. Bike felt great at Oulton but just didn't inspire confidence round Donny. I don't know enough about suspension to start messing with it but I couldn't take as tight a line as I wanted at a lot of corners and the front end just didn't feel as good as at Oulton but did improve as the day went on. Not that it seemed to make a big difference to laptimes. I did some 1.47s but consistent 1.48s. For my first trip there I guess that's not bad but I'm sure with more confidence in the bike I could go faster.

Made a good start after Stalker put us in 2nd place with some good qualifying times. First into turn 1 and 2 but then a fast boy blasted past and I tried to stay with him. Tipped into the Old Hairpin and the front had a big slide just before the apex. Knee was on the deck and maybe that helped it grip again but it was enough for me to think back off a bit, binning on lap 1 of a 3 hour race wouldnt be the best thing ever. I'm nowhere near the pace of the top guys anyway so just put in my 40 min stint and let Stalker get some time back. My near highside happened at around 25 mins, coming out of the Melbourne Loop, a corner I have to say I hate the rear went as I gassed it.. Threw me up and over the front and i came down on my ribs straight on to the kill switch. Fell back into the saddle and then had to wait for the clocks to cycle and then find neutrol before she would fire up. 5 mins later rearset hanger starts to come lose so I stick leg out and pit early.

Stalker heads out and is putting in great times and managed to get some 1.42s. Did his 40 mins and I head out again. Just as I am halfway round the lap I notice the safety car flags are out so I have to close the gap to the rear of the pack. Pick them up 1 & 1/2 laps later after Coppice. Race gets underway as we pass the finish line again and I just try and put in consistent 1.47s and do my full 40 mins. As the stint goes on I'm starting to feel a bit better out there and could have gone a little longer but Stalker is faster than me and its all about the points. Team manager The Ginreaper and Stalker fuel the ZX10 for a full hour so he can go to the end of the race. An hour is a long time out there but it will give us a chance at a podium. We've no idea if the 10 will go an hour on a full tank so I have to be ready to do a small stint in case Stalker signals he's running out of fuel. He picks up some pace as the tank empties but then loses 2nd gear for the last 30 mins of the race. Turns out the left hand chain adjuster bolt has worked its way all the way in and the chain is slacker than a whores draws and is affecting 2nd gear drive. With a lap to go his fuel light comes on but he brings it home in 5th overall and 2nd in our class 20 valuable points in the championship. Poor Team Green had a disastrous couple of days. First Monty is knocked off track on the Thursday by some douche coming up the inside of him at Schwantz curve where there was never room to do it. Although he kept it upright over the grass he lost it as he approached the track again and landed on the otherside of the track unconscious. A trip the hospital and the all clear was given but he was groggy. The other guy trashed his bike but deserved it as it was a reckless and dangerous move and was only a trackday. As we had friday off we all chipped in to repair the 750 and he felt ok to race. He was doing ok in the race but then lost the rear going around Redgate and although he was ok the bike took heavy damage. This is the crash that bought out the safety car as the bike was in the track. Def a weekend to forget for him but at least he didn't hurt himself in this crash.

Next round is Cadwell in 5 weeks. A track both Stalker and I love and one the SDR should go well at for me. 2 days at Crashfest to get to grips with it again before the race.

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Well done guys, will be there for your Cadwell Road, spectating/assisting or having a blat round.
Superdan

Superdan

Blat round dude. Stalker and I will be doing sprints as well as endurance. You still trying to find a partner?
Monkeydog

Monkeydog

Don't know yet, still not decided if doing endurance, got some peeps interested but rather do it with someone I know tbh. Will chat about it at crashfest.
Superdan

Superdan

Hey guys,
Sorry I didn't get over to see you guys this round.
Had a massive off in race one.
Only just out of hospital,
Fractures in C3, C5 and C6 in my neck,
Compression fracture on T5 in my back,
Two broken ribs
And 60% paralysis in my left arm...!!
My seasons over, I'll get down to brands hopefully to watch (I have already booked family room at premier travel inn)
Sounds like a good result for you guys, nice going.
I off the donny today to watch the video of my crash!! And get someone to pick my bike up?
Cheers

MD
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Sheeeeeeet!

Get well soon dude!
The Gin Reaper

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stalker

stalker

shite news dude, where did you come off ?
Monkeydog

Monkeydog

Cheers guys,
Didn't get to watch it today, did get me bike, some twats robbed my clocks off it!!
Docs reckon 4 months until I can get in the gym again seriously and ride properly.
I've a sweet ZX10 race package for sale that needs a bit of tarting up if anyone's interested?
Problem with being a contractor, no working = no money
Cheers
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

That sucks man. Fancy robbing off a bike like that. Horrible c*nts!
If I wasn't in hospital is give serious thought to that zx10. Like you I'm self employed though
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Monkeydog

Monkeydog

Pm sent
Superdan

Superdan

So whats the plan for August dudes?

You doing the trackday on the 16th? they have a day session and an evening, I might just do the evening.

Is the racing all day Saturday? (17th)
Colonel_Klinck

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Superdan

Superdan

I think I probably only have an evening session left in my tyres so will prob do that but will be there for the day session, you heading down for the Thursday night?

Want to put the bike through scruteneering to make sure all's ok for when I pull the pin, I may do the sprint will see what weather looks like as I have no WOW's.
stalker

stalker

i have some wets mate , but they are 180s ??

will head up thursday, but might go up to track electronics to tune the ten. as it will have the full leo on it by then
Superdan

Superdan

180's fit, never ridden on them. Don't really fancy racing in rain so will see what weather says. Either way I am there jumping in for Gin.
stalker

stalker

cheers bud
Colonel_Klinck

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Superdan

Superdan

Only 4 more sleeps before Friday and test day Can't bloody wait to jump back on the bike and have a play around Cadders after missing the Fest Weather is looking great for Friday and possible showers for Sat.
Superdan

Superdan

Should be good weekend
Jody

Jody

Winner, winner, chicken dinner
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Colonel_Klinck

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bic_bicknell

bic_bicknell

Well here is the report. Main thing is we managed to win the whole thing we've finished first in our class before but not the whole race. Did it with a whole 1.30 to spare as well

We had some rain for qualifying but it cleared up and Stalker put us 2nd with a 1.40 flat so not hanging around
I'll be honest and say I struggled on Friday and race day with pace. A mix of being Cadwell rusty having not been there in over a year and physically after my op and being laid up for a month. Although I matched it I didn't manage a faster time than last years 1.44 which is very disappointing Fitted a gear indicator which helped with problems I was having knowing what gear I was in but also showed how many times I was going in to corners in completely the wrong gear. Sometimes my error but also the box sometimes just didn't want to go down 3 gears in fast succession at the end of Park.

Stalker started the race this time as my bike was still fitted with wets from qualifying. He was pretty much on the pace straight away and doing low 1.40s with a full tank. Just after halfway he put in 1.39 flat so he was chuffed to bits with that. Came in after 40 mins and I headed out. Within 3 laps its was raining at Park and Chris's Curve and its a bit off putting seeing slippery surface flags out every other lap and rain drops on visor. Still I was really struggling, couldn't find a rhythm and was making mistake after mistake. 1.46s just isn't good enough and I know I can go way faster than that. Was fooked after my 40 mins and fit to drop. It was still raining at Park as Stalker headed out and even a bit in pit lane. So plan was to fit wets to my bike and if Stalker needed to come in after a few laps he could just jump on my bike. It did start properly raining but fair play he stayed out for 25 mins and gave me a chance to recover. I then headed out in the rain but on wets. We were still in 2nd place at this point. As per normal for me I seem to find the 2nd session much easier than the first. Not sure why this is but always seems to happen. I enjoy the wet and managed to get into the low 1.50s within a couple of laps and then into the hi 1.40s. Seemed everyone else was struggling as I was overtaking people everywhere. Pit board confirmed we were back in first place and the track was starting to dry. I stayed out for my 40 mins until the track was dry so Stalker could bring it home in the last 35 min stint on a dry track. By the time I came in we had a 1 lap lead god bless that rain. Stalker did the business and we won it with 1.30 to spare. Great win and puts us back in the lead of championship. Bring on Brands in 4 weeks time

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ktmguy

ktmguy

Well done guys, I'm impressed!

Will definitely come to Brands to cheer you on. It's in my diary.
stalker

stalker

Congrats, great job! Keep it up for the rest of the season.
Superdan

Superdan

it was a great couple of days , and thanks to superdan for the help , and ginge for the food
Jody

Jody

No worries thoroughly enjoyed both days

Unfortunately working when you are at Brands
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Good work guys
stalker

stalker

sorry forgot to thank Dan and Ginge for all their help. Very much appreciated and impossible to do with out the help.
Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

Outstanding fellas.

Really impressive.
Stalker for sheer speed and being a don'tgiveafuck bear and Klincky for being so fasy so soon after that op.

I really didn't think you'd be riding at pace so soon.
Colonel_Klinck

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stalker

stalker

thanks pete
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

I'm hurting today Pete. Wasn't on the pace but did ok in the wet. A month to get fit for Brands Indy.
Sabre

Sabre

Great result chaps I too had a great day and took a few photo's whilst pit boarding for the opposition,even managed a bit of video footage


Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

I'm not suprised you're sore!

Brands is my local, I hope I can get down there and support you heroes.
Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

Sabre, your video is showing as private.
You little tease!
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blb

blb

Great work guys. Fab to see a Superduke on the top step. Especially in light of your recovery Klinck!

Sounds like you made some great tactical decisions as well!
Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

I can't stop laughing!

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Superdan

Superdan

Oh dear, that looks shite.....
stalker

stalker

well guess what team won the championship and have got themselves a free euro trip
Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

Well done, awesome work.

That's a great prize, well worth having.
Next year you can sound all poncy and call it pre season testing!
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Exactly Pete Always fancied doing Portimao so we could be off there.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

good job
Viking

Viking

Another trophy for the cabinet First race of 2014 seems a long long way off now though

stalker

stalker

Well done boys.

Get an entry in for streetfighters for the final Thundersport round at donnington. nce last race before the end of the season. Be good to have you out there.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

That's tempting mate. As we both need another signature for clubman
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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

You'll get your two sigs. Get a sig from each day. Two day meeting. 4races.

The sd is sold but it'll be my last race in streetfighter. Be good to have a few more guys out for a play.
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Ah cool Hopefully won't have a bike by then though. Very much doubt I'll have the 10R by then either.
Superdan

Superdan

No Limits Racing Awards last night. Stalker myself and team manager The Gin Reaper went as we won the open 1000s Endurance Championship. Was a cracking night, made some good friends in the paddock over the season and a lot were there last night. Some nice scran along with copious amounts of booze. Lost count of how many jagerbombs we drank but I know I went to bed only just on the right side of talking to the great white telephone I think the trophy budget was used up at the race meets judging by the size of the championship ones handed out Myself, Gin Reaper and Stalker with trophy and bottle of bubbly. Stalker is concentrating on sprints this season so change of team but we had a cracking season doing better than we could have hoped going into it and some great laughs along the way. Couldn't have done it with Gin Reaper's help. He really did step up to the plate. Can't wait for the 2014 season to kick off


Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

Nice work chaps
The Gin Reaper

The Gin Reaper

….great night last night, far too many

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completely forgot to tell you guys (klinck and Stalker) that i had a cheeky pint with this guy at the bar whilst ordering a round of jager bombs and he said to say congrats on the win……. top bloke - very down to earth….

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for those who don't know who Gary Johnson is…. he's a bit handy round the Isle of Man TT course

http://www.iomtt.com/Competitors/Solos/ ... hnson.aspx
Superdan

Superdan

I know of Gary see him all the time in my village as he lives here too, was chatting to a nurse at the local hospital a while ago who was his missus, neither of them are big fans of Guy Martin who lives not far away.

Apparently all the fastest guys are from North Lincs
tripoddave

tripoddave

Seriously well done chaps and a very nice trophy to boot!
What are your plans for 2014?
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

I'm going to race endurance again. Just sorting out a new non splitter team m8 Probably do the odd sprint as well at tracks I love. Championship winner in the sprint Pirelli Super Series 1000cc gets a wildcard ride in last BSB round at Brands in Superstock class. Entrance fee and tyres covered. Quite a prize. Shame I'm nowhere near fast enough
stalker

stalker

cracking awards night and much fun and pisstaking was had.

i will be doing some sprint races this year as i have been ditched from the team
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

Are you still here!?!



The Gin Reaper

The Gin Reaper



Due to Haircut differences it has been decided that Shaggy and Cue ball will got their separate ways for 2014. They would like to thank the forum members for their support over the last year and hope the forum will continue to follow their exploits in future ventures. At this time the Team manager has the full support of the riders of which there are now none, he will be looking for a new position possibly as the local tramp as it suits his drinking habits and gives him a reasonable excuse for shouting at people who do there best to ignore him.

THE MANAGEMENT
stalker

stalker

pmsl
Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

I've bought you a mankini and a brolly James and there is an opening in the new team
stalker

stalker

no brolly needed with them ears
The Gin Reaper

The Gin Reaper

On the condition it's an orange mankini and my wages are paid in the same liquid format as last year..... I'm in!


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tripoddave

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