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Brake pad de-lamination.

31 posts · Started by Dr F · 07 Jun 2007

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To be fair to KTM it's Brembo who are at fault. Seems to me you have pads from a duff (and potentially lethal) batch.

No joy = call to Trading Standards or even Watchdog??
well, my dealer whined on about the main beam flasher switch I want repaired under warranty....it packed up, lost its springiness and was flashing when riding over bumps....obviously a warratny claim, just a small repair but i had to ride it for a bit to get it home at least. SO....the switch was deactivated so I didnt accidentally flash someone out on me at a junction! The dealer told me it would have to be sent back to KTM for inspection to see if it had failed....and get this: if they find ANY screwdriver marks, they will not do it under warranty!! WTF??? I told him what I had to do and he just said "we'll see". That sucks. Therefore it is my understanding that if I attempt ANYTHING myself on this bike it will invalidate the warranty.

Forgive my ignorance but I've never owned a vehicle young enough to have a warranty so I'm not familiar with how they work. I just want to take out my front pads and slap some copper grease on em (the back, before the gags come)....but the bolts are marked with yellow paint which will crack, therby proving I "tampered" with the brakes and no doubt giving KTM some shitty excuse to not honour any warranty claim on the brakes should one arise.

back on topic though.....what pads would you guys recommend then? Sintered HH EBC's? or sommat else......
Who the f**k is your dealer, just in case I ever shift to your neck of the woods. Sounds like a complete and utter tosser. Its obvious that if you have a bike which is unsafe to ride, you will do what is necessary( within sensible boundaries to allow it to be rideable until the warranty work can be done. This is especially true when KTM back order seems to be particularly poor for parts issues.
I think there should be a special sticky in the dealer section for naming and shaming piss poor dealers. We could have a nominee for chainsaw enema of the week.
ooops...I look a right tit !! (thats what you get for posting after a coupla glasses of red) Jesus, spot the newbie ! I just flicked through the repair manual and I can get the pads out without taking off the caliper! I just assumed I had to take them off as I've never owned a bike that didnt.

Dont want to name the dealer yet as I've not been there yet...all will be revealed when I go there next week. Is anyone on here actually from a Dealer? I bet they read this though....most surely do, dont they?
Oh I feckin hope so My stealer is fine its the munkys he's got werking for him in the werkshop , I coud dew a beter job and wood have respeckt for uthers new pride and joys , that have cost them a small mint
Nowt to do with being a newbie or otherwise mate. If you have a dealer coming down heavy on ya because you have felt it necessary to do some get you home maintenance on the grounds of safety, then he isnt worth dealing with on a regular basis. As Dr F said, the calipers will need to be dropped to remove the front wheel in the event of a tyre change/puncture repair. You are not obliged to use him for this. As for the flashing switch, again, it causes a safety issue for which you could be pulled over by the plod, or god forgive the worst happens and some myopic cage driver pulls out as he thinks you have give him the ok. Tell yer dealer to get a life, or stick his service entitilement up his arse. There are plenty of good dealers out there to look after you.
How come you will have deal with such dealers who won't want to fix practically anything under warranty?
Do they know that KTM pays all warranty fixing and services?!

I have never had any problems with any dealer when there has been even smallest minor thing. They're always been very helpfull. Obviously because that's the way how to keep customer happy, and in the "family".

Like some days ago, I went to my local dealer, just to hang around.. After few minutes I walked outside and there was a guy washing my bike! All he said, that we don't ride filthy bikes and continued.
It was very fine for me!
But there they do know how to make a customer satisfied.
I'd like to know the dealers name, I'm a Essex lad.

I use HYSIDE M/C's at Collier row. They are 10mins from my office.
The recall-pads ARE Brembo make. The ones I took out were exactly the same as the new ones.
Make: Brembo
Type: Hawk

The ones on the picture were very rusty. The pads I took out didn't look any different than the new ones. The pads also weren't detached from the back plates.
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So, I called at my dealer today with the good news about the pads. As usual they were very helpful and phoned KTM straight away,'Sorry, everybody is in the workshop for the whole of today, you'll have to leave a message' I heard the KTM receptionist say over the phone. I checked at their parts department and they do not keep any OE brake pads, only EBC HH sintered. The dilema, do I wait for KTM to get back to my dealer and maybe get a free replacement set for one side (the other was replaced under waranty with a brake disc) this also means I'm without my bike. Or, do I buy a full set of EBCs? Well I went for the latter at £64!!! As I said before, it's not my dealers fault so it's pointless taking it out on them, especialy when they're pretty good all round. The worst that can happen is KTM stick two fngers up and say 'unlucky', or at the best, they send a set of replacement pads out which I can use at a later date. Whats more important is that I spotted it before it was too late, and I won't be without the bike this weekend, new tyres, new brakes, party time! .
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took out my pads today, cleaned them and copper greased the backs. a coupla small pits on the pad surface, the backs are corrosion free. They're Brembo pads btw.

They feel better under braking but on hard braking they still make that weird sound, not a squeak, but and high/mid frequency vibration that comes up the forks as it reaches a stop. Weird. Gonna get it looked at by the dealer.
really? thats interesting, I've never had it on any bike before. I guess its reassuring to hear it's not unique. I'm still gonna ask the dealer about it, cant hurt eh...
Brembos on my Ducati's hiss/hum when breaking - normal...

You kinda get addicted to it
Ive read about the Brembo brakes making a noise when stopping..... and when i first rode the bike and braked i thought "well at least i know the brakes are right" and never gave them a second thought to be honest.. they work bloody well
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From your brief description it sounds more of a rear end fault,as you said the rear stepped out a touch....... as the bike would not move easily afterwards even in neutral id suspect it had siezed...... might be very wrong though.
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