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Heated Grips

42 posts · Started by D4NPH · 30 Nov 2006

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Post 1 by D4NPH,

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Has anyone got these official/genuine KTM heated grips fitted to there SD

Are they good value Easy to fit Worth having

I am considering having them fitted by my dealer as i don't get on with winter gloves and my hands freeze up pretty quick.

[url]http://www.ktmspares.co.uk/product_details.asp?c=35&d=5&p={69C59E26-B5A8-4805-AA8D-AEEC8AD72AAF}[/url]

(Can't get the link to appear properly so you'll have to cut and paste it in to your browser - sorry)

Post 2 by Plipton,

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Hi D4NPH.

I don't have these exact ones but do have a set of Oxford heated grips on mine. It was easy enough to wire them in but mounting the controller was more fun (had to fabricate a bracket which I put on top of the handle bar risers).

They heat up pretty quickly and work a treat, being adjustable from 'warm' through to 'nuclear furnace'. Not as good as heated gloves but much less trouble to use. £20 cheaper than KTM ones too.



Next mod....Satnav

Post 3 by Gregz,

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I had my dealer install a socket. I use heated gloves and a heated jacket liner if needed - I can transfer the heat from bike to bike

Socket was £10 I think, gerbing clothing is expensive but worthwhile and the wiring has a lifetime guarantee. The gloves keep the back of your hands warm too

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Post 5 by Gregz,

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Yes I found the Gerbing heated gloves keep your fingertips warm too ..

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Post 9 by Gregz,

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My favorite heat grips are these: then you can keep your std grips:



Plus they are cheap! Ask Ballards - they may ship international?

Post 10 by Dr F,

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gregz !!
looked at there site and cant find an email address
any chance of asking if they have one would be interested in a set of grip heaters
thanks
trevor

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Post 12 by Dr F,

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thanks for your help
i have not seen them listed anywhere in the uk
trevor

Post 13 by Apex_seeker,

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Imo the way global warming is going we will need Air Conditioning Grips soon :-/

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Post 16 by Gregz,

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Here is the pic for the ballards heated grips + some extra's from me:

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Post 18 by Plipton,

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ah, there it is.....

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Post 21 by D4NPH,

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Thank you to the guys at: Team Incomplete
Here is a great on how to fit heated grips to the 950 adventurer.

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Post 23 by D4NPH,

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Spoke to my local dealer who informed that the KTM heated grips are not out till March April when the weather will be getting warmer DOH!

Or he may only have the Oxford ones and is trying to flog them to me.

Has anybody else heard this?

Smoe

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Post 27 by D4NPH,

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Post 28 by Plipton,

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Have you accidentally trimmed the heater elements? That'd partly explain their crap performance.

Post 29 by Plipton,

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I knew someone would say that

I would have to say definately not, i've basically removed a couple of mm off the very end of the grip. It was only rubber that i removed and there was no signs of the heating element at all.

The only thing i can think of is i've picked a pants power supply, or my connections haven't fully made. But i'm clutching at straws really.

What i could do with is someone who has the same grips to compare.

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Can't seem to paste the image for some reason, but the area highlighted in red is where the heat element is and the area highlighted in green is where i have trimmed to fit the SD.

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Post 33 by D4NPH,

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Hi D4NPH,

Right, this how I wired mine (and they get VERY hot!!) ......

There is a 10 amp fuse under the seat on the left marked "ignition". You need to remove the 2 6mm hex-headed screws holding the fuse box, lift it up and tap into the orange wire underneath (see pic 1). This is an unregulated supply which feeds from the ignition switch.

My memory was not serving me well as I didn't use a separate relay at all, but simply tapped into the wire with a Scotchlock insulation dispacement connector (I'm fairly sure that fuse is fed via a relay anyway). I don't like Scotchlocks but it's what came with the Oxford grips and as it is well away from any water it shouldn't become a problem. Also there is not much room under the fuse box and cutting into that wire and remaking a joint would be awkward.

The first pic shows the fuse box raised up and the scotchlock in place on the orange wire. The other scotchlock on the right of the pic is a permanent live feed I connected the battery conditioner plug into.

The second pic is the fuse box back in place and the 5 amp fuse and holder tucked into the gap next to the fuse box. The twin core black cable came as part of the kit and is tyrapped under the tank and runs up to the headlamp cowl where the controller and grip connectors live.

The ground connection is the frame bolt to the right and slightly forward of the fuse box. As I say, these grips get very hot and warm up in about 1 -2 minutes.

I hope that helps.

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Post 35 by Plipton,

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Excellent find, Glen. I also have the manual on CD but as it was downloaded on my PC I used that one instead and couldn't find any wiring diagram - nor in the manual that comes in the KTM hand bag (maybe I should have gone to specsavers!)

If that orange and black wire is indeed the same unregulated supply, then it should be OK to use. Best to check before using the wire though as it may be fed through another fuse. Also if it goes to the kill switch it will most likely be grounded when the switch operates.

This is not in itself a problem but may suggest it's on the ignition circuit rather than fed direct from the alternator so might not be able to handle the load - indeed the ECU (or whatever the orange/black wire connects to) may see the 0.23 ohms resistance of the grips as a short to ground and kill the engine. As I say, I'm not 100% sure how this part of the bike is wired (yet!!) so I'd recommend a cautious approach to the job.

Regarding fuses, assuming 57 watts is at 13.2 volts then that would mean a current draw of 4.32 Amps so a 5 amp fuse should be fine. If 57 watts is measured at 12V then that would be 4.75A and a bit too close to 5A fuse rating for comfort. It'd most likely be OK but would probably blow the fuse once in a while. If so change the fuse for a 7.5 A one.

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