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Is the fuelling dangerous ?
36 posts · Started by couchcommando · 12 Aug 2008
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Post 11 by sdrk,
#11Sorry, I am going to paste and copy this from YOUR original post ''200 miles in''
''Picked the R up this morning in the wet and set off home. Thro the traffic and on wet roads I found no fault with the fuelling or throttle.
So for me none of the bad things the press seem to think it has, It doesn't have throttle or fuelling problems but it does need a steady throttle hand as it is very very responsive. Complaining about a responsive engine tho is akin to admitting you are a cack handed baboon with the touch of a baby elephant. I'm guessing these people dong the tests are the latter ''
The people who own a 08 SDR (me included) have been saying this for months, read my post ''Understanding the SDR fuelling'' and try coming to a roundabout, stopping and resarting the motor, the bike will then have a richer mixture and perform faultlesly for around 3 or 4 minutes.
G2 cam is a massive improvement on the 08 SDR, as will be the power commander, Sinex says it's transformation is unreal.
Welcome to the Tribe
PS The answer to yor original question is (IMHO) Yes it could be if it caught you out, but I find it more annoying that it just stops me riding smoothly, correctly and well, it just winds me up until I just go berserk on the thing
''Picked the R up this morning in the wet and set off home. Thro the traffic and on wet roads I found no fault with the fuelling or throttle.
So for me none of the bad things the press seem to think it has, It doesn't have throttle or fuelling problems but it does need a steady throttle hand as it is very very responsive. Complaining about a responsive engine tho is akin to admitting you are a cack handed baboon with the touch of a baby elephant. I'm guessing these people dong the tests are the latter ''
The people who own a 08 SDR (me included) have been saying this for months, read my post ''Understanding the SDR fuelling'' and try coming to a roundabout, stopping and resarting the motor, the bike will then have a richer mixture and perform faultlesly for around 3 or 4 minutes.
G2 cam is a massive improvement on the 08 SDR, as will be the power commander, Sinex says it's transformation is unreal.
Welcome to the Tribe
PS The answer to yor original question is (IMHO) Yes it could be if it caught you out, but I find it more annoying that it just stops me riding smoothly, correctly and well, it just winds me up until I just go berserk on the thing
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Post 18 by Sinex,
#18Guy's sorry, Toys out the pram time, after 4 odd months- I have had enough, sent another fax to Rob, and Rob I hope you log on and see just how much trouble some of us are having with your product, thought I would share the fax I sent to you with the forum, you too can fax Rob on 01280 709 689 if your as pissed as I am, with the fueling of your SDR 08 or Superduke
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Post 20 by Plipton,
#20It's a sad day when it comes to this but the issues that so many owners have reported seem to be ignored by KTM.
Flywheel mass is the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Why, then, after a PCIII and custom map is mine running so well? Maybe PDQ added a few lbs to the flywheel?? Like f*** they did !!
Come on KTM. Accept there is a problem with some bikes and sort it out. If that means a PCIII/Tuneboy, custom map then so be it if it keeps paying customers happy.... and guess what...happy customers will buy more bikes and tell their mates who will also buy bikes from you.
Your choice Mr KTM.
Me, I spent over £700 to get mine to run right and it is running nearly perfectly - PCIII, 4 hours dyno time and ferry (not including hotels, fuel etc).
Flywheel mass is the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Why, then, after a PCIII and custom map is mine running so well? Maybe PDQ added a few lbs to the flywheel?? Like f*** they did !!
Come on KTM. Accept there is a problem with some bikes and sort it out. If that means a PCIII/Tuneboy, custom map then so be it if it keeps paying customers happy.... and guess what...happy customers will buy more bikes and tell their mates who will also buy bikes from you.
Your choice Mr KTM.
Me, I spent over £700 to get mine to run right and it is running nearly perfectly - PCIII, 4 hours dyno time and ferry (not including hotels, fuel etc).
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Post 35 by Bobaworld,
#35Thanks guys.
Post 36 by Sinex,
#36here is wat an adventure owner wrote:
Now for the bit that usually gets folks heated. The fuelling is not the cause of snatch on the 990Adv. This is a forum so don't take my word for it. You can prove it by putting maximum concentration on the throttle position and you will find that if you can hold it steady at tiny openings it does not snatch. Please note I am not saying that the bike doesn't run better with aftermarket cans/remap etc - it does - just like most bikes. Just that fuelling problems are not the cause of the snatch.
The problem as I have said a few times is the mechanics of the throttle linkage. This is why the G2 works. It increases low opening precision and the bike is more controllable - if fuelling/mapping etc was the problem no amount of throttle precision would make a difference. Heavy springs (or elastic bands for a test) help a bit, but isn't great for distance and takes away the sensation of the motor's willingness - not what I want.
What is needed is an aftermarket linkage kit - which unfortunately helps no one, because it doesn't exist (yet?). Meanwhile, the well documented tweaks do make a big difference.
Now for the bit that usually gets folks heated. The fuelling is not the cause of snatch on the 990Adv. This is a forum so don't take my word for it. You can prove it by putting maximum concentration on the throttle position and you will find that if you can hold it steady at tiny openings it does not snatch. Please note I am not saying that the bike doesn't run better with aftermarket cans/remap etc - it does - just like most bikes. Just that fuelling problems are not the cause of the snatch.
The problem as I have said a few times is the mechanics of the throttle linkage. This is why the G2 works. It increases low opening precision and the bike is more controllable - if fuelling/mapping etc was the problem no amount of throttle precision would make a difference. Heavy springs (or elastic bands for a test) help a bit, but isn't great for distance and takes away the sensation of the motor's willingness - not what I want.
What is needed is an aftermarket linkage kit - which unfortunately helps no one, because it doesn't exist (yet?). Meanwhile, the well documented tweaks do make a big difference.
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