Chris
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Thanks Kirkmoon,
am ordering one now,
mines got akra map and still snatchy as f@#
Dr F
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Plipton
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Plipton
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Chris
Zenbiker
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Plipton
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Zenbiker
My bike has the Akro Evo slip ons and the Akro ECU map. I don't have any excess play in my throttle cables. Everything else about the bike is stock and working well. Chain is properly adjusted.
The Akro map smoothed out the throttle response some but I was still experiencing what I considered to be an excessive sensitivity to throtlle input in the lower quarter of the throttle rotation. This manifested itself by abrupt deceleration when the throttle was chopped, abrupt forward lurching when getting back on the power from closed throttle, and throttle inputs occurring as a result of bumps transmitted up through the relatively stiff suspension when riding on bumpy roads.
I was able to minimize these annoyances by paying great attention to throttle inputs and by stabilizing my throtlle hand with a finger on the brake handle (which I do anyway, but which I had to exaggerate, particularly on bumpy roads.) But I found it annoying to have to pay so much attention to minute throttle inputs and I frequently found it impossible to avoid problems even when trying to be as precise as possible.
I still found that chopping the throttle would frequently result in an abrupt deceleration and cause my upper body to lurch forward. Getting back on the power in the middle of a turn would also create a lurch which would unsettle the suspension. And on particularly bumpy roads, I would occasionally get into an awkward situation where a bump would cause a throttle input which would cause the bike to lurch forward which I would then counter by chopping the throttle which would cause another lurch. If I hit a series of bumps one after another I could almost get into an "oscillation" of forward and rearward lurches, all during a moment when the bike is bouncing around on the bumps. I found all of this to be so frustrating that I was thinking about selling the bike.
And just to deal with any thoughts some of you might be having that I just don't know how to ride a bike and/or don't know how EFI bikes are supposed to behave, I should mention that I have owned around 20 bikes in the past 5 years, many of them EFI bikes and I am well aware of the spectrum of behaviors of such bikes. And I know how to get a bike around a track and a twisty road with skill. I typically ride in the upper half of the A groups on track days (which I do monthly) and am a fast and experienced street rider.
The Cam System seems like a reasonable compromise to me. It blunts the input from the throttle tube over the first quarter turn of the throttle. There are several cams to choose from ranging from stock to marked smoothing, so you can pick your level of damping.
I can't find the KTM Hard Part anywhere on the web, but the web site for the relevant G2 Ergonomics product is located on their web site at this address: . I know you can get the KTM Hard Part from Scuderia West in San Francisco and you can buy the G2Ergonomics product from lots of sites on the web. The KTM system comes with the same three cams as on the G2E web site. If you want other cams (like a 300 or 500) you can purchase them separately.
I put the 400 cam on and it more or less eliminated the problems I was experiencing. It did take away some of the visceral punch of the bike at the low end of the throttle turn (which is a big part of the fun of this bike), but it didn't neuter the bike and it made it much easier to live with. I plan on experimenting a bit with other cams to see if I can reclaim a bit of the punch without getting back too much of the snatchiness.
The Akro map smoothed out the throttle response some but I was still experiencing what I considered to be an excessive sensitivity to throtlle input in the lower quarter of the throttle rotation. This manifested itself by abrupt deceleration when the throttle was chopped, abrupt forward lurching when getting back on the power from closed throttle, and throttle inputs occurring as a result of bumps transmitted up through the relatively stiff suspension when riding on bumpy roads.
I was able to minimize these annoyances by paying great attention to throttle inputs and by stabilizing my throtlle hand with a finger on the brake handle (which I do anyway, but which I had to exaggerate, particularly on bumpy roads.) But I found it annoying to have to pay so much attention to minute throttle inputs and I frequently found it impossible to avoid problems even when trying to be as precise as possible.
I still found that chopping the throttle would frequently result in an abrupt deceleration and cause my upper body to lurch forward. Getting back on the power in the middle of a turn would also create a lurch which would unsettle the suspension. And on particularly bumpy roads, I would occasionally get into an awkward situation where a bump would cause a throttle input which would cause the bike to lurch forward which I would then counter by chopping the throttle which would cause another lurch. If I hit a series of bumps one after another I could almost get into an "oscillation" of forward and rearward lurches, all during a moment when the bike is bouncing around on the bumps. I found all of this to be so frustrating that I was thinking about selling the bike.
And just to deal with any thoughts some of you might be having that I just don't know how to ride a bike and/or don't know how EFI bikes are supposed to behave, I should mention that I have owned around 20 bikes in the past 5 years, many of them EFI bikes and I am well aware of the spectrum of behaviors of such bikes. And I know how to get a bike around a track and a twisty road with skill. I typically ride in the upper half of the A groups on track days (which I do monthly) and am a fast and experienced street rider.
The Cam System seems like a reasonable compromise to me. It blunts the input from the throttle tube over the first quarter turn of the throttle. There are several cams to choose from ranging from stock to marked smoothing, so you can pick your level of damping.
I can't find the KTM Hard Part anywhere on the web, but the web site for the relevant G2 Ergonomics product is located on their web site at this address: . I know you can get the KTM Hard Part from Scuderia West in San Francisco and you can buy the G2Ergonomics product from lots of sites on the web. The KTM system comes with the same three cams as on the G2E web site. If you want other cams (like a 300 or 500) you can purchase them separately.
I put the 400 cam on and it more or less eliminated the problems I was experiencing. It did take away some of the visceral punch of the bike at the low end of the throttle turn (which is a big part of the fun of this bike), but it didn't neuter the bike and it made it much easier to live with. I plan on experimenting a bit with other cams to see if I can reclaim a bit of the punch without getting back too much of the snatchiness.