Roost
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DMNTD
ONLY a guess but I know the '05's had a recall on the starter clutch due to slippage problems....mine did.
Dr F
DMNTD is right, there were issues with the '05 torque limiter on the starter, they were/are rectified free by KTM, but I don't think this is your problem. I think it's just a knackered battery, initialy turns the motor then dies (quick discharge) also your hint that the clocks show '17'. 17 is the wheel size programmed into your clocks, it will be shown when you first turn on the ignition. Coupled with your problem, when you press the starter button, the starter motor takes all the power from the battery leaving nothing, when you release the button the clocks re-boot which is why they show '17'. It sounds like the battery is knackered, common on a 2 year old SD that hasn't had a battery tender coupled to it between uses.
rigga
Agree with the above.........
baggieman
He's one of the few useful things to come out of Leeds you know
Roost
mine has just done that,charged the battery had it tested fired up first time,pain to get to the battery out and back in again
rigga
A DC Voltage meter is a good investment for all good samaritans that have a motor vehicle.
It requires 12 FULL VOLTS to start a modern internal combustion vehicle with fuel injection, the voltage that is left for the ECU
is a requirement to fire the engine. Anything less than 12 volts tells the ecu to NOT work correctly,
usually causing the injectors to stay open for a longer amount of time,, in turn can and will cause engine flooding with excessive fuel.
this is what I commonly see in my industry of service and repairs to Japanese auto's.
I use what is a called a battery load tester, it puts a load on the battery so if it has one weak cell and 5 normal ones it will detect that.
It allows me to make a comprehensive diagnosis for my purposes and detect a weak battery.
It requires 12 FULL VOLTS to start a modern internal combustion vehicle with fuel injection, the voltage that is left for the ECU
is a requirement to fire the engine. Anything less than 12 volts tells the ecu to NOT work correctly,
usually causing the injectors to stay open for a longer amount of time,, in turn can and will cause engine flooding with excessive fuel.
this is what I commonly see in my industry of service and repairs to Japanese auto's.
I use what is a called a battery load tester, it puts a load on the battery so if it has one weak cell and 5 normal ones it will detect that.
It allows me to make a comprehensive diagnosis for my purposes and detect a weak battery.
Roost
Damn it.....I had forgot to say, their is a great place to check all of this without the pain of having to get to the top of the battery on the SD,
the positive lead for the starter is very easy to get to, it is in plain view. It has a rubber boot on it for obvious reasons,
the best way to render the voltage to a neutral state is to unhook both of the ground leads that are just under the starter on the engine block,
then after the 2 Ground leads are disconnected you can "safely" reach the positive battery cable on the starter,
after you have hooked these wires back up after charging the battery without touching any positive wires to the ground , hook them up in the reverse order.
for further or more precise instructions just post again, I am glad to help all that may ask.
the positive lead for the starter is very easy to get to, it is in plain view. It has a rubber boot on it for obvious reasons,
the best way to render the voltage to a neutral state is to unhook both of the ground leads that are just under the starter on the engine block,
then after the 2 Ground leads are disconnected you can "safely" reach the positive battery cable on the starter,
after you have hooked these wires back up after charging the battery without touching any positive wires to the ground , hook them up in the reverse order.
for further or more precise instructions just post again, I am glad to help all that may ask.
Roost
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Roost
Crap......I spoke too soon, I am wrong about that wire on the starter it is a dead wire,
it is excited only when you use yer starter button so that will not work what I had previously had said, the starter solenoid is located at the fook I dunno,
I will have to look further on this subject, but like I have said in other posts, their is a spot on the left side of the battery box where yer main fuse is at to hook up test equipment,
or yer charger! it is a chrome Allen head screw at the same spot, I have a tender and I will hook it up today if I can find the time,
now that I have this bellypan it will have to come off, but this something I need to do anyway, i will keep you all posted.
it is excited only when you use yer starter button so that will not work what I had previously had said, the starter solenoid is located at the fook I dunno,
I will have to look further on this subject, but like I have said in other posts, their is a spot on the left side of the battery box where yer main fuse is at to hook up test equipment,
or yer charger! it is a chrome Allen head screw at the same spot, I have a tender and I will hook it up today if I can find the time,
now that I have this bellypan it will have to come off, but this something I need to do anyway, i will keep you all posted.
DMNTD
Thanks for all the help. I'll look into the battery and the recall, although the previous owner of my bike also owned the dealership that I bought it from so I think it would already have the recall unless its a new problem. I didn't think it would be the battery because it continues cranking , but just starts making a machine gun like noise after the engine turns over a couple times. Horrible sound just like you said though. If it is the battery I'm a happy man as that should be an easy fix. I'll let you know what I find out. Happy New Year Gents.
lockers
Ok, I will look forward to that.
Listen up,,,, I had this KTM 06 SM 950, it had this GOD AWFUL noise at the starter assembly,
like what you may be describing, you could hear this thing make this grinding noise,
you could hear it a block away! scary shit I speak of, as a demon possessed bike would make,
as it turns out, this was something that KTM had recalled....
humm.... I don't know why KTM does not send out letters to the customers pertaining to these sorts of problems.
that noise was a fine tool to make my next door neighbors look at me like I was grinding their brains up...
it was annoying, something I would not know much about.
Listen up,,,, I had this KTM 06 SM 950, it had this GOD AWFUL noise at the starter assembly,
like what you may be describing, you could hear this thing make this grinding noise,
you could hear it a block away! scary shit I speak of, as a demon possessed bike would make,
as it turns out, this was something that KTM had recalled....
humm.... I don't know why KTM does not send out letters to the customers pertaining to these sorts of problems.
that noise was a fine tool to make my next door neighbors look at me like I was grinding their brains up...
it was annoying, something I would not know much about.
DMNTD
Clanking noise when starting will be the torque back limiter on the clutch,sounds horrendous when it fails,but apparently does no harm to the motor apart from the noise...... as said a known fault on earlier sd's and done under waranty...... opening the throttle when starting makes it worse.
Roost
I took a small video clip of it trying to start so you can hear the sound, but I'm not sure how to post it hear. I can try to send it out in a email if anyone wants to have a listen. [/img]
DMNTD
Rigga, That is the noise my man, much worse w/you give it gas, the more gas the more "Engine Kick Back" is what I called it.
Roost, you can e-mail me if ye like to but I am no wizard w/it come to the forum stuff, I am still trying to put together my digital camera.
My teenagers can both do this it is just hard for them to take any of their time to help me + I need a new memory card.
[email protected]
Roost, you can e-mail me if ye like to but I am no wizard w/it come to the forum stuff, I am still trying to put together my digital camera.
My teenagers can both do this it is just hard for them to take any of their time to help me + I need a new memory card.
[email protected]
Dr F
'Lack of use' is the usual culprit.
rigga
From what i recall the sd req a very high voltage to even think about starting,11.6 volts or summat silly,so whilst most bikes will start if the battery has lost a little charge through standing,the sd will laugh in your face with that noise that every one dreads....... esp when you have got yourself all kitted up and wheeled the bike outside much to the amusment of the locals