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Slipperclutch - Worthwhile mod?
30 posts · Started by Dutch · 18 Mar 2008
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Post 7 by Beer,
#7it's another thread on the same sunject Joe
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Post 9 by Beer,
#9Hello Beer,,, joe likes yer name,,he would like to Say WELCOME to this most excellent forum in this whole world.
thank ye for the complement, I guess One thing that I like is frogs, it really does not matter if they are in a box or a jar, just does not matter,
my previous avatar was the annoying thing, a blue frog. "Classic" is a high complement for one small joe, Thank You!
I hope you are having a good time on yer SD, mine is so much fun to me that I have to think of you good folks over here,
cos I feel like I am over here with you dudes, believe it or not, anyhow I think
I am British sos I feel more civilized and stop doing wheelies and backin er in,,,, hehe,
I am a Enviro"mental"ist, would like a slipper clutch too, if I did not like it I could sell it in here...
Gonna ride the chopper popper again at the race track,,,wee hooo !!
thank ye for the complement, I guess One thing that I like is frogs, it really does not matter if they are in a box or a jar, just does not matter,
my previous avatar was the annoying thing, a blue frog. "Classic" is a high complement for one small joe, Thank You!
I hope you are having a good time on yer SD, mine is so much fun to me that I have to think of you good folks over here,
cos I feel like I am over here with you dudes, believe it or not, anyhow I think
I am British sos I feel more civilized and stop doing wheelies and backin er in,,,, hehe,
I am a Enviro"mental"ist, would like a slipper clutch too, if I did not like it I could sell it in here...
Gonna ride the chopper popper again at the race track,,,wee hooo !!
Post 10 by Beer,
#10A box of frogs got nothin' on Joe.
He's averaging over 10 posts per day since his joining the group.
I think a slipper clutch is a great thing for the track - it eliminates wheel hop on downshifting, and is great if you like to "back it in". For street riding?
If you ever had a road-going two-stroke, then you know what minimal back pressure feels like when downshifting into a turn. Proper clutch technique can give you the exact same experience as a slipper clutch, and save you few bones in the process. If I had a track-day only bike (like a 690SMC or SV650), I'd put one on for sure.
He's averaging over 10 posts per day since his joining the group.
I think a slipper clutch is a great thing for the track - it eliminates wheel hop on downshifting, and is great if you like to "back it in". For street riding?
If you ever had a road-going two-stroke, then you know what minimal back pressure feels like when downshifting into a turn. Proper clutch technique can give you the exact same experience as a slipper clutch, and save you few bones in the process. If I had a track-day only bike (like a 690SMC or SV650), I'd put one on for sure.
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Post 14 by bic_bicknell,
#14Hi all can you help answer some questions for me? I love watching bikes backing it in, I have a 2009 superduke which I love I am havin a slipper clutch fitted, I am a confident fast rider and i am hopeing this will help me start learning to back it in little by little, can anyone tell me if I am going to poo myself when I first use it ( did you) I understand mycorner speed will improve? And does it start to come easyier with time any tips are well recieved ! Any help or hints will help
Post 15 by Twisted Jester,
#15No, you won't poo yourself (unless you already have a problem in this dept. - dianesse diapers anyone?). Simply put - nothing will happen, the clutch will slip and rear wheel rotation will continue as normal.
A slipper clutch will not improve your cornerspeed per say. It will mean that the corner entry phase is more settled in hard braking / rapid down change situations though, this may give you the confidence to slow the bike less and enter the corner with more speed, but that's down to the rider and, thank god, there's no part that can help with that.
A slipper clutch will not improve your cornerspeed per say. It will mean that the corner entry phase is more settled in hard braking / rapid down change situations though, this may give you the confidence to slow the bike less and enter the corner with more speed, but that's down to the rider and, thank god, there's no part that can help with that.
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Post 21 by mr.cool,
#21I've done it and never regret... a must on the track and useful on street
Post 22 by tripoddave,
#22seems the slipper is the way to go if you have track shifter, ride infrequently then forget, torque works 2 ways, fore and against.
Post 23 by Colonel_Klinck,
#23To echo some of the comments on here I'd say its not worth it for the road but is a bonus for track use.
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Post 25 by DribbleDuke,
#25Hello Colonel, Things are good, big changes in the last couple years. Still have the pumpkin. Moved from urban to suburb and sold my shop, so now I seem to be the home improvement guy X2. Odd thing is-all things have changed in a drastic way but it is still a blast to ride the SD, just like the day I bought her. Oh she is in black these days..
Post 26 by bic_bicknell,
#26First and best mod done until I got the suspension sorted.
As noted, not needed to back a bike in (which I suspect very few here do intentionally on their SDs). Where it shines is around town, or whenever hard braking while-downshifting-and-into-trailbraking. No more chatter on hard and fast downshifts; much more control over what the rear of the bike is doing. Using the clutch lever intelligently WITH the slipper clutch, the control the rider has can't be beat for urban assault, sport riding, or track.
Not my first slipper clutch, and yes, I still blip (rev match) down shifts. Where the slipper comes in, particularly on the track, is that it makes these speed and gear transitions seamless every time. More smooth, more consistent = more control = more speed. On the street, more control = more safe. OK, and speed too.
As noted, not needed to back a bike in (which I suspect very few here do intentionally on their SDs). Where it shines is around town, or whenever hard braking while-downshifting-and-into-trailbraking. No more chatter on hard and fast downshifts; much more control over what the rear of the bike is doing. Using the clutch lever intelligently WITH the slipper clutch, the control the rider has can't be beat for urban assault, sport riding, or track.
Not my first slipper clutch, and yes, I still blip (rev match) down shifts. Where the slipper comes in, particularly on the track, is that it makes these speed and gear transitions seamless every time. More smooth, more consistent = more control = more speed. On the street, more control = more safe. OK, and speed too.
Post 27 by RRR,
#27On too many to count, occasions my whoafucckinshitwhatthefucckamIdoingandwhenistherearendgoingtosettlein? moments i wish I had a back torque limiting device. There are tymes when you get the whole situation right and remember torque works both ways and you feel that that is what riding a moorsickle is all about. This makes you not wish for all the poopoo that the mass public need to make "biking" more pleasurable?
Can I lap faster with torque limiting devices, yes. Do I think that they are a form of cheating myself of a fuller riding experiance, double yes.
Different hits for lazy trips.
Hey Joe, batten down the hatches Tornadoe Moe is twirling your way.
Can I lap faster with torque limiting devices, yes. Do I think that they are a form of cheating myself of a fuller riding experiance, double yes.
Different hits for lazy trips.
Hey Joe, batten down the hatches Tornadoe Moe is twirling your way.
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Post 29 by Vortex155,
#29First off. Joe, it's good to see you posting again, you were part of the reason I liked this forum when I joined, I have missed you.
I have a slipper clutch and I have a quick-shifter. (For two years now since my first comments earlier on this very same thread!) Both of them I have learned to enjoy and benefit from when I want to. But I also will never stop blipping my throttle and matching the revs when I ride because, for me this is what I enjoy about riding and getting the "feel" of riding my bike, (whatever that means ) Stamping down the gears without a thought to the engine seems fundamentally crude to me and not very mechanically sympathetic. It took me decades to learn to do really well and even more so with big singles and twins. Same with changing gears, quick-shifters are great when you're really caning it but for lots of road situations it's not the best way to change up. Now, after years of having both I just switch between using them or not. I don't even think about it anymore.
So if anyone asks me I would say that both are better to have when you want them but it doesn't mean you have to use them all the time have to loose the pleasure of riding without them.
I have a slipper clutch and I have a quick-shifter. (For two years now since my first comments earlier on this very same thread!) Both of them I have learned to enjoy and benefit from when I want to. But I also will never stop blipping my throttle and matching the revs when I ride because, for me this is what I enjoy about riding and getting the "feel" of riding my bike, (whatever that means ) Stamping down the gears without a thought to the engine seems fundamentally crude to me and not very mechanically sympathetic. It took me decades to learn to do really well and even more so with big singles and twins. Same with changing gears, quick-shifters are great when you're really caning it but for lots of road situations it's not the best way to change up. Now, after years of having both I just switch between using them or not. I don't even think about it anymore.
So if anyone asks me I would say that both are better to have when you want them but it doesn't mean you have to use them all the time have to loose the pleasure of riding without them.
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