TuneECU: Official Topic!

dade

2010-06-14 20:15:00 UTC

Seems like the open source version of TuneBoy... Does the same things (more or less), uses a standard USB/OBD cable...

The software: http://www.box.net/shared/pusg6v7nyd

Instructions...http://www.tomhamburg.net/Tunes_in_Hex_ ... ion_En.zip

The cable...? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... K:MEWAX:IT

A handy PDF
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/zaysj4

So now? Who tries it???

EDIT: Thought that this could became THE topic dedicated to this Revolution in our little Super Duyle World....

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Edited by Bert: Looking for maps? Wanna know what map to use for your bike?
Take a look at the special thread:

Links to cable parts UK
http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/00 ... _vag_com_/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-Cab ... 001C1MNTM/
http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/02 ... er_cable_/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OBD-OBD2-Connec ... 0054FJEDK/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Japanese-Sumitomo ... 230839fe0a

dade

The download link doesn't work, anyone have a new link?

jaanusj

2010-09-28 05:47:00 UTC

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harvester

2010-09-28 06:20:00 UTC

jaanusj

And what cable did you end up using? thx

MrZ32

2010-09-28 08:55:00 UTC

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2010-09-28 11:52:00 UTC

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2010-09-28 13:08:00 UTC

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2010-09-28 16:43:00 UTC

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Reb

2010-09-28 16:56:00 UTC

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Reb

2010-09-28 20:20:00 UTC

cable ordered, going to repco to find out about a male obd11 and 6 pin plug

jaanusj

2010-09-28 20:59:00 UTC

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2010-09-28 21:13:00 UTC

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samba

2010-09-28 21:44:00 UTC

Great success:)

I readed map once again - KM610AK050E002Map.hex
KTM 990 SuperDuke 05-06 model years with Akrapovic Titanium slip-on exhaust

Downloaded PCIII file from SD.net for this akra map (I think it was Klinck-s map) and added it to my original akra map. Flashed it to the ecu and it works. Engine runs and no FI codes

Weather is bad at the moment but i will go and try it asap.

Some tips for tuneecu users:

1) Rename your map file in windows after reading it from ecu. If you dont tuneecu wont read your map next time.

2) Download button in tuneecu means that you write the map to the ecu.

3) If you buy this cable you dont have to make or buy the adapter for superduke, just buy 3 male 3 female crimp pins and crimp them to 3 wires.

Connect them to SD:

SD orange is +12 and connects to OBD pin 16
SD yellow red is data line and connects to obd pin 7
SD Brown is Ground and connects to OBD pin 4

2010-09-30 10:12:00 UTC

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MrZ32

2010-09-30 10:51:00 UTC

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PowerCell

2010-09-30 15:16:00 UTC

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TheJoker

2010-09-30 18:28:00 UTC

This is very interesting, but at the moment not interesting enough for me pursue (I have my bike mapped on Dyno with TuneBoy)

However, If you're around my are and want to borrow the TuneBoy cable, you're welcome to. I also think that Dave Wood - who tuned my bike - might be able to do the dyno work. He was a bit scarred from using the TuneBoy though, so you might need to convince him a bit extra. Just for reference - he won the KTM SuperDuke UK cup!

I'll keep my eye on this to see what it leads up to. Would be cool if you could connect two wideband sensors directly to the same laptop and then go out for a few runs and it would auto adjust.

PowerCell

2010-09-30 21:16:00 UTC

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2010-10-01 01:36:00 UTC

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2010-10-01 05:47:00 UTC

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Bert

2010-10-03 17:41:00 UTC

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Schnauzer

2010-10-08 18:11:00 UTC

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I think we should support tuneecu team and show Superduke community respect to this project.
Tom can you help us with Tuneecu paypal or other information how do support your team?

Tom-Hamburg

2010-10-15 07:57:00 UTC

2010-10-20 11:19:00 UTC

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2010-10-20 11:27:00 UTC

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2010-10-20 17:05:00 UTC

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2010-10-21 10:56:00 UTC

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2010-10-21 11:01:00 UTC

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dade

2010-10-21 14:57:00 UTC

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harvester

2010-10-21 18:26:00 UTC

I have just received the cables from China
And found the cheapest way for the KTM connector:

1 quadrat-mm ferrules (just flatten them and plug into the original KTM diag connector)

My items:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BENZ-MER ... 4153bef531

http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Vag-Com-OBD-2-O ... 33618f4fed

Arrived in 8-9 days

The whole thing works like a charm, and it didn't have any problems with the COM port with running engine

I have the Akra map without O2 sensor and SAS checking..
TPS read 3% (sometimes 4 for a second) when I connect and 0% when engine is running..
Throttle body sync is OK too, 5-10 hPa differences maximum, but bike is still snatchy sometimes

MrZ32

2010-10-22 11:11:00 UTC

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2010-10-22 12:00:00 UTC

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2010-10-22 12:35:00 UTC

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2010-10-22 14:28:00 UTC

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Tom-Hamburg

2010-10-22 15:05:00 UTC

Hi,

Here from Otto Leirer the settings for the virtual com port.

With these settings, it works when the engine is out. When Engine is running, but there are still occasional disconnections.

BR, Tom

Tom-Hamburg

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mrbubblehead

2010-10-31 14:36:00 UTC

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PowerCell

2010-10-31 15:49:00 UTC

Hi,

Here is the answer by Alain:
TuneECU follows the KTM convention, and commits the Trim 1 to F1 (rear cylinder).

It's very strange, the power commander does not respect the convention of KTM.

BR, Tom

ktmguy

2010-10-31 18:49:00 UTC

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MrZ32

2010-11-02 15:19:00 UTC

2010-11-06 17:58:00 UTC

Ok I have downloaded the map out of the ECU its KM610AK0503D03Map from my 06 Akrapovic slip-ons. Comparing it to my custom map it looks like this

2010-11-13 10:14:00 UTC

This thread is turning out to be one of the all time greats on SD.net and I've been following with much anticipation.

I ride a 2006 SD with Motobox and round slipon Akras (I like to consider this the default setup )

Never really had the urge to get a PC3 and custom map, though I was getting more and more convinced of the need until TuneECU turned up. I reckon loading the map (and all other settings) directly into the KTM ECU is a much more elegant solution.

I'm currently on the list for one of Powercell's cables and hope to be downloading the map from my bike in the next few weeks. In the mean time I've been doing the same things as a lot of people on here have:

Downloaded the TuneECU software, pulled in a load of maps, overlaid Klincks PC3 map, committed F trim and outputted my own custom map... basically all the funky stuff that you can do, without actually being connected to an ECU.

What I hope to achieve:

If I'm interpreting my Dyno charts (specifically the A/F ratio) correctly, is that the fueling is way too rich below 7000 RPM, after that it goes a bit lean until 8500! <-- this is what I'll be tackling first.

The colors aren't the easiest to see, the 2 blue lines are before the Motobox went on, while the red and green lines were the last 2 runs, now with Motobox. I suppose it's worth noting that all 4 runs were done on the same day, with about 3 hours in between the 2 sets.

I find it a bit weird that the A/F for the green run drops to around 10 (silly rich?) while the red run was round the 13 sweet-spot until 5500 RPM, then it goes a bit lean.

Anyways, this is what I'll be doing over the winter and wanted to share that with my fellow SuperDukers.

And another big thumbs-up to Tom and Alain for making this possible. Awesome work

mrbubblehead

2010-11-14 00:27:00 UTC

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2010-11-14 02:05:00 UTC

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2010-11-14 09:32:00 UTC

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Bert

2010-11-14 10:40:00 UTC

2010-11-15 17:16:00 UTC

No need for a PC3 map. My Akra map was modified during runs on the dyno.
So, make a run on the dyno, look where fueling can be approved. Make changes in TuneECU, download modified map to the bike.
Make another run on the dyno, etc... untill you are satisfied (or dyno-time runs out).

MrZ32

2010-11-15 17:20:00 UTC

2010-11-16 20:56:00 UTC

@ Tom

Any chance in the near future to check the throttle balance, since the SD has one vacuum sensor per cylinder?

edit: srry never mind

No. 47

2010-11-22 00:14:00 UTC

2010-11-23 20:26:00 UTC

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BASH69

2010-11-24 05:17:00 UTC

No win 7 support. I wished I would have known that before I bought the cables. It's away something with windows. You ether have a out dated ver. or the new ver. is not yet supported. WTF.

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit. If you have this. Good luck. Lol.

ducknose

2010-11-24 06:09:00 UTC

TuneEcu and my cable work perfectly on my Windows 7 64bit laptop...

Tom-Hamburg

2010-11-24 06:20:00 UTC

I've used TuneECU on my sister's cheap Fujitsu notebook with Win XP 32 bit and .NET 3.2 I think (maybe 3.5) without any problems. I just checked the COM settings but were the same as you wrote earlier.

Bert

2010-11-24 13:45:00 UTC

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ducknose

2010-11-26 18:21:00 UTC

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mrbubblehead

2010-11-26 18:58:00 UTC

Yes, my lappy is AMD64 bit. I also thought i had a faulty cable. Not so, my cable from powercell is working great.

Check these 2 dialog boxes and see if the files match up. You may have looked at these already but i thought i would post here for you.

I wish i had more to offer. Not the most PC savy person but i try.

I did more updates to that link i sent you.

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MrZ32

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Imageseekr

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Tom-Hamburg

2010-12-16 02:09:00 UTC

Update

12-15-10 TuneECUv1.8 now released

Support Speed Triple 2011.
Copy / paste the table values.
Adding a DLL file and delete key.

BR, Tom

Tom-Hamburg

2010-12-16 03:34:00 UTC

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2010-12-16 09:12:00 UTC

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2010-12-17 09:55:00 UTC

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KeeBLer

2011-01-05 00:16:00 UTC

Update

01-04-11 TuneECUv1.8.3 now released

- Adding coil and injectors tests (KTM)
- Bug when opening some RST Futura maps, Fixed.

BR, Tom

sunnbmx

2011-01-05 06:44:00 UTC

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fuel

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2011-01-05 14:20:00 UTC

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2011-01-08 15:47:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

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2011-02-13 17:25:00 UTC

I got the plug here:
http://www.corsa-technic.com/item.php?item_id=230
It arrived quickly.

Bert

2011-02-16 14:40:00 UTC

Hi Bert, recieved notice this morning that my parts are underway from Vienna, Xmas electronics
ordered some extra B6 plugs, maybe can be of use for other Belgian SD or RC owners?
Hard to find those connectors.

Shall arrive in a couple of days so I can fix a cable with mag protection read the map from ECU I hope and adjust idle speed is first thing, I'm gonna do.

KG666

2011-02-16 21:26:00 UTC

Not sure what you want to do with the idle speed. Don't set it too low. There have been .

ktmguy

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No. 47

2011-02-21 12:48:00 UTC

As per Bracken - same place, same number.

MRK-01

2011-02-21 14:55:00 UTC

has anybody played with ignition timing on the standard superdukes ? I have looked at the SDR maps standard and from Otto and noticed that there is quite a dramatic change between the SDR and the SD maps.
You can spot that if you do the compare function. I do not see that Otto has changed anything on the ignition timing compared to the standard SDR Akra mapping. Also his SDR maps shows a couple of very odd jumps
if you look into the graphs, looks odd to me.
So question would be of anybody has adopted the SDR ignition timing to an SD map and if yes what are the results you had ?

thx

MrZ32

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jambox

2011-02-25 22:46:00 UTC

2011-03-03 19:53:00 UTC

Still can't get the fooking thing started. Not sure what you meant by change the throttle, however, cold it was showing 3.9v at 100%.

MrZ32

2011-03-04 01:00:00 UTC

2011-03-06 00:32:00 UTC

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PK1

2011-03-06 03:37:00 UTC

Sorry missed the bit that he has the sensors replaced by the eliminators...

Same thing really, the ecu still looks for the signal and the power draw over the resistor hence the need for the eliminators.
So one of the eliminators could be faulty also.

AGRO!

2011-03-06 06:45:00 UTC

Didn't realise that I had turned them off.. Will check what I'm running... May turn th o2s on again and see how it runs and let u all know

Bert

2011-03-06 16:37:00 UTC

well today i took he o2 elimnator plugs off and one thats under the tank was fin, the one down by the battery box may have been the issues, once i unrapped it from the tape, the plug would not come apart, eventually it came off, to find some green stuff inside the plug.

conected back to the the stock plugs, started her up and no FI light.

Plugged tuneecu on and no error codes, however on the left side on map edit it shows a tick in the o2 sensors, which means on, in james map.

i have left it on, is this right?

also today i have been having connection issues, never before but it would keep dropping today arrgh, if only it would stay connected all the time tuneecu would be perfect, or am i doing something wrong

AGRO!

2011-03-07 16:59:00 UTC

2011-03-11 17:52:00 UTC

So I have this map now on my SD 07

08 SD james' map for grim and motobox (will run motobox as it is rich enough).hex
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/88oy9d

I ran into some issues with my o2 eliminators so, plugged them back into oem, and then went out for a ride, and noticed the bike was bogging down in 1st and and came straight back

Opened up Tuneecu (with my powercell cabel ) and diasbled the o2 on tuneecu, went for a blat and felt good.

then after reading a few post i realised my SAS was not turned off on the tuneecu (SAI) and as i have it removed,tonight i diabled it and will have to wait till tomorrow to see if it has made a difference.

Next week i am hoping to put it on the dyno to atleast see how the bike is running with the map etc.

will report back

Thumbs up for Tuneecu/powercell/and members for knowledge

Colonel_Klinck

2011-03-11 18:01:00 UTC

$59 is less than I paid. Due too the fact that I first tried ordering my own part's to make my own. Then got tired of waiting for the parts to be shipped. Then ordered Powercells 2nd batch of cables. (which btw is very well made) I only wished it had worked. Total waist of money for me. My one and only late model Sony laptop running windows 7 home prem. Would never connect. So, $59 could be a lot of money for some of us to throw away.

drkwng

2011-03-11 21:18:00 UTC

3-11-11 TuneECUv1.8.7 now released

* Support 2011 maps for 990 SM/SMT/SMR

* Added a procedure to adjust the throttle cable for KTM's

BR, Tom

duffman

2011-03-11 21:28:00 UTC

Tom , love the new look aswell :thumbs: up

Vortex155

2011-03-14 08:49:00 UTC

2011-03-20 04:31:00 UTC

Oh and guy gave me some good pointers too

Colonel_Klinck

2011-03-20 09:28:00 UTC

2011-03-23 15:58:00 UTC

Back already, had small issue connecting, bike refused to connect, but did when I pluged it into the battery loader, was first time I didn't plug it into the loader.After solving that, tried the throttle adjustment, valve closed like mentioned and I adjusted the cable, my tps was reading 1% on closed throttle.
Then fired up the engine, ECU stayed connected until I pushed the kill switch, bike came back with kill switch off.

this is my cable

2011-03-30 10:16:00 UTC

has there been a better supplier of cable parts found for UK people since I last tried to jump on the bandwagon? I originally bought the various cables to make up a TuneECU one but then sold them as I was going to have to sell the bike...

I got to keep it for another year so I'm back on the TuneECU market - so, any recommendations for where to buy the cable parts? Don't wanna pay through the nose for an assembled one from the US...

whufc0

2011-03-30 10:20:00 UTC

I just used fleabay, About 26 quid for the three bits

AGRO!

2011-03-30 10:30:00 UTC

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Bert

2011-03-30 12:04:00 UTC

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trackday junkie

2011-03-30 18:01:00 UTC

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MrZ32

2011-03-30 21:24:00 UTC

I downloaded Mr.Z's modified Shade map this afternoon.
I'd already saved the stock map and overlayed it with PCIII I've been running.
Pretty straightforward.
Thanks to Tom, Alan, and MR.z32 too.
It may be a few weeks till test it out but I'll get back as soon as I do.
Jeff

fuel

2011-03-30 21:30:00 UTC

No mate.. U don't want to do that... If your pc3 map was done for the akra map then that is the map that u should overlay it on

If u want, send me ur pc3 map and I will knock something together for you.

Fuel... Do you know when your map will be ready?

MrZ32

2011-03-30 21:37:00 UTC

It's booked in next week.

fuel

2011-03-30 21:47:00 UTC

Fuel.. As always... Champion. Sound like you are doing what I'm planning on doing when my jtm dvs is finally finished...

Got a call the other day... Came in had a look and asked if they had read the cad drawings that I had put together... Oops.. We will fix that by the weekend. Weekend passed and still not done.. Ok rant over... Point is thanks fuel.

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2011-03-30 21:58:00 UTC

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MrZ32

2011-03-30 22:49:00 UTC

2011-04-10 08:09:00 UTC

I will put back the O2 sensors and disable them in the TuneECU. I don't have money for the O2 eliminators, I think they are overpriced if I can simply disable them in the TuneECU

Now I'm using a .hex map made with O2 eliminators (Klinck's map).

drkwng

2011-04-10 08:51:00 UTC

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browser

2011-04-13 22:44:00 UTC

04-13-11 TuneECUv1.9 now released

* Support KTM 690

BR, Tom

edefauler

2011-04-13 23:23:00 UTC

Thanks Tom.. Time to buy a 690smc then... Bit of advance and that docile engine will be fun

KingPin

2011-04-15 16:07:00 UTC

Help needed, quickly!
I managed to download and install the TuneECU succesfully, and I connected my bike. I was able to do some of the tests etc. but I cant read my map. I did the port setting that were recommended, I tried the new and the old driver for the cable and everything.

do you have any suggestions what to do? The computer has USB2, but the transfer doesn't work.

All I managed to change, is that I got the FI light burning for "purge valve being open blah blah blah..."

Tom-Hamburg

2011-04-15 17:12:00 UTC

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OldTLSDoug

2011-04-20 04:20:00 UTC

I used Tune ECU on my 2010 RC8R. I am going to remap the Super Duke shortly and remove the PCIIIusb. I love that the Tune ECU does all the stuff with zero drama. I am running a Dell Laptop with Vista and I bought my cable from dualsport warehouse. Great investment. I also went back and donated a few Euros to Tune ECU. Excellent software, thanks a lot. The instructions say it takes 20 min to read a map and/or download. Mine did it in under a minute both ways, haven't hooked up the Super Duke yet, but will soon. I may just use the PCIIIusb map, unless I like one of the ones on here better. Woo Hoo!

Here is my hookup

And, of course, gratuitous shots of the scooters

2010 RC8R Akrapovic 23 of 25

2011-05-05 09:11:00 UTC

Just done testing version 1.9.2 on the RC8 bike stays connected in static and running mode on TuneECU
(I always use my optimate to provide bike current while connected)
version 1.9 connection problem seems to be gone.

Question to Tom or Alain TuneECU Guru's
Was reading the manual ver1.9, there are some lines regarding the temp.control ventilator run setpoint, it seems this will not do for KTM ECU, correct?

I read Kes his answer meanwhile, a couple of replies here above, but only was wondering, if it is possible to tweak that into another update?
If it aint possible, so be it....but it would be nice

There's something strange with my ECU, if temp rises above 95°C, the injection is set lean, so was thinking to tweak with the temp control, so it hardly will reach that setpoint.

Cheers

preey

2011-05-09 21:11:00 UTC

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jambox

2011-05-09 22:07:00 UTC

wear can i get a lead thats already made up ?
does the Triumph one fit you can buy them on ebay
sorry just after a easy life with out trying to make a lead up

preey

2011-05-09 22:18:00 UTC

No the trumpet one won't fit.

You can buy a ready made one from http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/TuneECU.html

Or make your own getting these parts:
http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/00 ... _vag_com_/
http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/02 ... er_cable_/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Japanese-Sumitomo ... 230839fe0a

PowerCell

2011-05-09 22:37:00 UTC

All the links to parts to make a lead just say Product Status

Sorry, no details are available for this product.

and the ebay one is also dead
i looked b4 i posted

preey

2011-05-09 22:59:00 UTC

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2011-05-17 23:19:00 UTC

Yes, the changes are not live so you have to make the changes and then flash the ecu with the updated map

Colonel_Klinck

2011-05-18 05:37:00 UTC

I do apologize, as I've not used the software yet, but could you give a very brief synopsis of how that's done. ie, is there a place to save the map after the live changes are being made, then reload them? Thank you.........

RosscoB

2011-05-18 05:48:00 UTC

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TC's SD

2011-05-18 18:48:00 UTC

Hi Guys, I have been reading with much interest this thread about TuneECU. You SD guys seem to take your tuning very seriously Anyway, I don't have a SD, I have a SMT. I have a set of Wings NOS exhausts to fit and the MH air box. I will be de-SAS ing and adding home made O2 eliminators to rid my bike of the terrible part and closed throttle fueling it suffers with. Unfortunately, there isn't a PC V option for the SMT at the moment, Dynojet are dragging their feet for some reason ( apparently there is an issue with the RPM pulse to the PC). Tune ECU seems to be the answer to my prayers.
However, there are only a few standard and Akro tunes available for the SMT, and I am not convinced the Akro map is going to give me the results I expected after parting the better part of £1100 on the go faster goodies. Not being a tuning god myself (I understand the basics and principles), I was wondering if there was tuning house in the UK that has experience with using TuneECU. I notice there are foreign tuners embracing the software but I have yet to find a reference to a UK tuner, preferably one in the South West, but I will travel to get the bike set up properly. Any advice greatly appreciated.

RosscoB

2011-05-18 18:55:00 UTC

HM Racing

TC's SD

2011-05-18 19:22:00 UTC

Are hm racing doing it now , as when I was there a few months ago, the guy basically said PC all these other things don't work aswell and dismissed tuneecu ??

Twisted Jester

2011-05-18 19:28:00 UTC

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12511&p=186049&hilit=hm+racing&sid=ea314e76649739a29ec0593910f16324#p186049

I'm told they've bought the cable now..........

blb

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2011-05-31 07:26:00 UTC

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PowerCell

2011-05-31 07:50:00 UTC

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Tom-Hamburg

2011-05-31 09:05:00 UTC

If its popping on decel you will have to put a marble in the hose that comes off the air box to the sas valve. The valve must be open a bit and sucking air on decel. This is what I did untill I got block off plates.

jambox

2011-05-31 09:40:00 UTC

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2011-05-31 11:01:00 UTC

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CEREC1

2011-06-01 18:17:00 UTC

Guys n gals
This is a great thread and there are several of us in the U.S. drooling and reading along...(paricularly in The greater Los Angeles area) that are looking to do the Tune ECU map downloads.. but..like me..I have a desktop not a laptop...or not enough PC savy to take the chance...Willing to purchase cables, buy beer etc.. and looking for some willing paricipant to help us out...Anyone out there...????
Cheers..!!!
Mike

blb

2011-06-01 18:24:00 UTC

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2011-06-01 18:35:00 UTC

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blb

2011-06-01 21:02:00 UTC

06-01-11 TuneECUv1.9.5 now released

* A few minor bug fixes.
* Support for KTM RC8R model 2011.

BR, Tom

jambox

2011-06-06 06:22:00 UTC

Re DubsandBikes

1)Yes just turning them off is fine.

2)I trying this the other day along with other things and it made it pop more on the overrun. Turned them back on and the poping has gone and didn't notice any difference in performance. I've still got my SAS installed so I would recommend leaving it ticked if you've still got them

3)to do the reset, yes it is just let it idle for 15min. Whether you have to do it after unticking these, I don't know. It won't hurt if you don't do it, but it wouldn't hurt if you did when not needing to (if you get what I mean).

If you arten't going to get any mods for a while, you may want to try giving "08 SDGuysCustom possibly the best map for aftermarket pipes .hex
https://files.me.com/craig.wiltshire/xm46mo" a go as well.

bruce950sm

2011-06-06 12:36:00 UTC

Thanks jambox!

MrZ32

2011-06-13 00:36:00 UTC

Has anyone tried Klincks new map in a later model SD. I also noticed that the O2's, SAS, etc are still ticked as on. I'm assuming these should be unticked

bruce950sm

2011-06-13 02:54:00 UTC

2011-06-30 00:04:00 UTC

I'll have mine too, won't stay connected while running but good for maps and stuff.

BASH69

2011-06-30 06:37:00 UTC

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the_shakes

2011-06-30 08:40:00 UTC

Got my Leo's installed and loaded the Akra map tonight. SAI and O2 unchecked...

Holy crap, feels like another bike !

Great software! Loaded from a Mac running WinXP on VirtualBox. No problems to speak of, everything went smoothly. Donation to tuneecu guys on the way, they really did a great job here.

Looking forward to playing around with this some more this upcoming weekend. This is really cool stuff, a far cry from the playing with carb jets of the past.

Can anyone tell me what the "2nd throttle" checkbox does?

Also, my bike now exhales FIRE Is this something I should be worried about? I can't imagine it's good for the exhaust packing, but can't say I mind it, haha.

Cheers,

jambox

2011-06-30 09:11:00 UTC

Leave the 2nd throttle checked unless you have removed the secondry Butterfly valves in the intake (guessing you haven't).

I'd also recommened ticking the SAI again as well unless you have removed the SAS. This should help with the flaming exhaust (this is speaking from experience, I turned them off but left the SAS installed and there was more popping on the overrun), or leave them unticked and stick a marble in the SAS tubing.

the_shakes

2011-06-30 09:24:00 UTC

Great info, Thanks!

I've got the SAS block of on the way and hope to get to it this weekend.

Cheers.

Twisted Jester

2011-07-02 00:56:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2011-07-02 09:52:00 UTC

Hi everyone,
ive got my leads and hoping to do the Tune ECU this weekend.
The thing is im not the best with this computer stuff so basically just looking for some help.Ive enlisted the help from a mate who doesnt know much about bikes but he knows about downloading so should be ok.
My bike is a 07 SDR and has Remus hexagon cans,motohooligan tune kit with the SAS blanking plates,resister,modied butterflies.it currently runs with the Ackra map and 02 illiminators.Dont think this makes any difference but it also has a RC8R throttle fitted.
Could someone please advice which map i need.
Thanks in advance for any help.

jambox

2011-07-02 12:21:00 UTC

2011-07-06 16:14:00 UTC

Hi Guys,

I'm going to have a go with a different map just to see the difference between Guys map and the modified one by otto on the tuneECU site. I find Guys map a bit lean at small throttle openings at 3-4k revs in town. I could just modify it slightly I suppose but anyway...

My question is do I have to do the TPS reset straight after the map change or can I do it later? The reason is I don't want to piss off my neighbours by leaving my bike running outside for 15 minutes.

Will it learn something wrong by riding it in to work?

Thanks in advance! Please help i'm desperate!

oooh 1000th post in this topic!

Bert

2011-07-07 20:31:00 UTC

I wouldn't worry. I've ridden without resetting after doing map changes.
Just do the reset at a more convenient time

BlueFlame

2011-07-07 23:29:00 UTC

in Tune Ecu
As a cheap ass way of removing 2nd throttle plates,
has anyone clicked on the 2nd Throttle section and set them all to 100% ????
That would make the butterflies fully open all the time right?

blb

2011-07-08 07:53:00 UTC

2011-07-14 04:32:00 UTC

the EVO4 map is what i'm running and it is very good, keep in mind that SAI and O2 options are selected active as downloaded...you can uncheck them if you wish (right click), also the rev limit is higher than necessary

wille

2011-07-16 17:35:00 UTC

I checked the Tune ECU site and here - is there a user manual in English posted somewhere (I only see a french one). - should be a sticky?

I would like to read and learn about the tables specific to the KTM maps. Thanks.

jambox

2011-07-25 17:51:00 UTC

Hey guys,
I've got an 07 SD with Akra cans and aftermarket headers and I've been running the correct Akra map but still had issues. I was getting use to them but after reading recent posts regarding Otto's map, I decided to give it a go this morning. I downloaded it to the ecu and then did the 15 minute reset. I took it our for a quick 30 mile ride and all I can say is WOW! The Superduke is like a whole new bike. It feels really polished and is so buttery smooth at low RPM. It pulls like a beast in every gear and feels like what I imagine it should have always been right from the factory. I am truly amazed at how much of a difference it seems to have made.

Wooly808

2011-07-25 23:58:00 UTC

Amazing how many are doing well with the Otto map(s). I too installed the SD 4EVO map on my 2008 standard duke. Unlike most I don't have an aftermarket exhaust but I do have the MH air box. Driveability has become much better. Fueling is almost as smooth as a carbed bike, it will pull without the jerkiness that I had grown accustomed to. There is barely any popping. The reduced engine braking also makes the bike far less jerky.

One thing that I also noticed is that in the 5 or so tankfuls since the change the mpg has varied no more than +- 1 mpg whereas mileage would vary by 6-8mpg before.

All in all probably the best mod yet.

zoddas

2011-07-26 00:05:00 UTC

Could you remind for a link to Otto's map.? Is it one of those at the top of the thread?

Thanks

drkwng

2011-07-26 00:28:00 UTC

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Wooly808

2011-07-26 01:35:00 UTC

cheers boss

Wooly808

2011-07-26 16:47:00 UTC

2011-07-26 22:18:00 UTC

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Anata

2011-08-09 03:42:00 UTC

2011-08-21 01:08:00 UTC

Can someone explain how this works. I can see any specific help in the doc?

Select compare file, select another map and nothing seems to happen,

Thanks

MrZ32

2011-08-21 04:01:00 UTC

You have to hit the download button in the top right hand corner once the map is selected. If you haven't removed the flies then you will need to turn them back on in the map I sent

DukeMonster

2011-08-21 08:19:00 UTC

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Plipton

2011-08-21 10:31:00 UTC

2011-09-02 07:07:00 UTC

Do you mean this map - "08 SDR Shade fuel - Otto ignition - motobox - flies - pipes.hex"

Yes I have tried it - I thought it was too rich (although I never actually measured this) & running with the baffles out made the bike feel like a big fat lazy fly

It certainly didn't feel like more power to me.

So I went back to Jocke's map.

Cheers,

Paul

Viking

2011-09-08 04:38:00 UTC

This one! 07 SD with MH air box, FMF cans and O2 eliminators.

Works great.

treid this one, very snatchy at 3-5k, rough idle (even died a few times) and bog at WOT for me.

THEDUKE

2011-09-10 09:18:00 UTC

Ok, just read through the thread. Bare with me, i'm just off nightshift

Pretty interested in this but the info seem a wee bit all over the place.

I have an 05 SD. Akras, standard airbox and filter with snorkel removed. It has a PC3 fitted already. Usually run baffles out, but on some trackdays it will be baffles in.

What i'm looking to do is remove the SAS and secondary flies, (i still have to do a search on flies removal) then get a suitable map with fueling and ignition mapped well, gear limiters removed, 02, sas, and secondary flies all disabled.

From what i can see there is no point in having the PC3 fitted if it gets a zero map, so i was thinking about just taking this off and selling it.

I downloaded the softwars but it's in italian.

Is it really as easy as it looks here. Buy cable, download software, save old map then download new one, hey presto, instant 5bhp+ more??

Willh

2011-09-10 09:49:00 UTC

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joey120373

2011-09-10 09:55:00 UTC

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joey120373

2011-09-10 11:05:00 UTC

I agree with Willh as mine runs lean with loaded map. suck it and see I seem to be unlucky

levert

2011-09-13 04:17:00 UTC

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ktmguy

2011-09-14 00:40:00 UTC

2011-09-23 00:28:00 UTC

2011-09-28 13:45:00 UTC

I've tried this but the other way around - using a newer SMR / SMT map in an 08SD.

All was good (and very smooth) until about 4000 revs and then a massive 'blackhole' or something as the engine virtually died, however, it would rev through but this blip made it virtually impossible to ride.

I was looking for a map that was in-between the std sd map and the akra map in terms of fuel.

I'm guessing there was probably quite a difference in the exhaust tuning which caused this blip and probably could have been tuned out.

You will have to copy the tables from one map to another as you won't be able to directly load a map for a different model bike onto yours.

I will probably re-visit this once I get a wideband sensor.

joey120373

2011-10-04 20:35:00 UTC

Here is the tune I am using right now, It is running very well. I have not had a chance to datalog it, so no hard numbers, but it is a modified Otto map, basicaly gave it more fuel where it was running lean (see previous post a ways back).

2007 SD
AMF cans
Motohooligan airbox
O2 eliminators (stock O2 sensos removed)

larryf8

2011-10-04 20:38:00 UTC

lets try uloading it again.....

Tom-Hamburg

2011-10-06 03:30:00 UTC

Evidently I cannot load a file from my work computer, I will try to load it from home once i transfer the file.

I would like to know if it works as well for others as it does for me. So...... once i get it loaded, anyone running the Otto tune for an 08SD might want to try it.

jaanusj

2011-10-08 22:26:00 UTC

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lcjohnny

2011-10-10 00:19:00 UTC

Here's what i did-No disconnect even when engine running

1. Ferrite choke on OSBDII cable ECU connect side
2. Installed latest D2XX drivers
3. Configured com port settings and advance settings too
4. At power options on device manager, set to maximum ferformance and disabled suspend modes on advance settings
5. Headlight fuse removed
6. Battery tender connected
7. Laptop power supply connected

Windows7 starter Operating system 32bit/TuneECU 1.9.9

hope this helps

ktmguy

2011-10-10 15:09:00 UTC

Update:

Oct-10-2011 new TuneLibrary v1.9.9.2.
* Added support for KM691CR0980236Map (KTM RC8R Track only)

BR, Tom

ktmguy

2011-10-12 18:02:00 UTC

Just got my bike back from Evolution Suspension in San Jose, CA after dropping it off for a custom map. For some reason, the shop owner wasn't able to get a good fuel/air reading from my bike. He is not sure why. He thinks it could be something to do with the exhaust, but he has not had this problem on any other bike. He said that the sensor showed that the bike was running way lean, but if that were really the case, the bike would not run at all. As a sanity check, he used TuneECU to increasing the fueling across the board by the max (45%) and ran it again. He said the sensor still showed the bike running lean and the increased richness made the bike run like crap.

He was going to try to put the sensor into the O2 sensor hole, but the hole was smaller than the sensor and would have required some drilling to the exhaust, which I chose not to do.

He did show me the results of a dyno run using the Akrapovic map and the power curve is VERY linear - looks beautiful actually. 93 HP peak, but that was on a Mustang Dyno, which == 1.15 x on a DynoJet Dyno, or 107 HP, which is ballpark what I would expect for this bike.

My mods, again are:
Motobox
2nd butterflies removed
FMF Apex Exhaust
Akra map

At this point, I think I'm leaving well enough alone, and I'm just going to enjoy the bike. I still think it bogs more on WOT than before I removed the 2nd butterflies, but the less snatchy throttle response is worth it, IMO.

Lastly, if you're in the San Jose area, don't hesitate to go to Evolution Suspension for work. They couldn't help me in this case, but they are a 100% class act all the way. Despite all of the time he spent he insisted that I not pay him because the end result is he wasn't able to give me what I came there for. I've gone there for suspension work in the past and they are outstanding.

jaanusj

2011-10-12 18:07:00 UTC

bct1192, is your SAS still enabled/in place? Someone correct me if I am wrong, but if that is in place then you could get false readings with a sniffer in the exhaust cans since the SAS injects fresh air into the exhaust for emissions purposes.

Viking

2011-10-12 18:09:00 UTC

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2011-10-12 18:14:00 UTC

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PowerCell

2011-10-12 18:37:00 UTC

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2011-10-18 23:29:00 UTC

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nampus

2011-11-05 04:43:00 UTC

So this is getting frustrating. I've done the ground mod on my cable(even changed the cable because the shielding was horrible on it and could not get solder to stick to it) and the com port adjustments. I still get disconnected when the bike is started. Any ideas? Running ver1.9.9

MrZ32

2011-11-05 08:28:00 UTC

Are you using a lap top and if so do you have it hooked up the the main power?
What about having the lead hooked up to the bike start bike then plug lead into computer this might work?
Has the bike battery got good power or is it a bit down on charge?
Like I said try to start bike first as if the battery is a bit dead this could be the problem on start up.

Bert

2011-11-05 09:10:00 UTC

Anyone in here who knows if I can use a tuneboy cable for tuneecu? My first tought is: a cable is a cable, should've be ok, but just want to be sure.
Thanks!

nampus

2011-11-05 10:21:00 UTC

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kowekiller

2011-11-05 13:14:00 UTC

2011-11-13 13:30:00 UTC

Hi there,

Question on PC-V to the experts:

Is Map1 in a PC-V-map, identical to the KTM- layout? Or it's like with the PCIII maps?

BR, Tom

ktmguy

2011-11-14 06:03:00 UTC

2011-11-27 15:23:00 UTC

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AGRO!

2011-12-11 21:34:00 UTC

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MrZ32

2011-12-11 22:22:00 UTC

A quick go over with a de-burrer to take out a mm will fix the problem... You don't need to remove the system to do it either. Its a 10mm lip and the dynonet requirement is 12mm.

Linga

2011-12-11 23:29:00 UTC

The plugs are a standard sump plug thread or spark plug. 18mm x 1.5mm I think.
You can get some really neat ones from a hydraulics place. Allen head fit, nice and flush. No good for drill and wiring though. I've just got some sump plugs with copper crush washers drilled and tied.

Scribe78

2011-12-14 03:32:00 UTC

Thanks, MrZ32 and Linga. I'll give it a go!

AGRO!

2011-12-14 05:28:00 UTC

I found that post

viewtopic.php?t=10549

Linga

2011-12-14 06:12:00 UTC

Good find Agro!
Very neat and simple

kevxtx

2011-12-14 08:02:00 UTC

I cut mine out with an air tool & cutter.

2012-01-19 11:01:00 UTC

any one tried this cable w/ positive results?

2012-02-02 13:58:00 UTC

2012-03-26 09:49:00 UTC

Tom-Hamburg

2012-03-26 09:58:00 UTC

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AGRO!

2012-04-05 12:14:00 UTC

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marc lenssen

2012-04-05 12:54:00 UTC

From the R3 forum:

"The fuel tables F and L specify a volume of air which translates into a fuel pulse based on the air/fuel (A/F) table values.

The F tables are the main fuel tables used above about 15% TP. They are a function of TP and RPM.

The L tables are used below about 7%. They are a function of manifold pressure (MAP) and RPM. In between 7 and 15% TP, a combination of the L and F tables is used. "

"The F_L Switch table sets the change over point from MAP (L tables) to TPS% (F tables). This switch point can be rather abrupt. So abrupt in fact, that it can cause issues to smooth operation at the points where the change-over occurs. In the latest versions of TuneECU, the tables are set so that the numbers indicate roughly the TPS% point at which TPS takes over from MAP. In older versions, the numbers were a little bit harder to understand - a 24 actually was closer to 6% TPS."

L and F tables are used at all points. It is just that one has much higher priority under some conditions than under others.

Marc

jambox

2012-04-05 15:30:00 UTC

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larryf8

2012-04-05 21:52:00 UTC

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marc lenssen

2012-04-07 10:31:00 UTC

I was wondering about the F-L switch set to 0. If there is no L influence over 2000 rpm could that mean that a trip through the mountains (athmospheric pressure differences; L mapping) may cause wrong fuelling? You only ride on the F mapping then which is TPS dependent and does not take the athmospheric differences into account.
If that is the case would it be an idea to keep the original L-F switching points but adjust the L mapping in such a way that at switch point the fuelling is closer to the F mappping to avoid jerkiness?
Regs,
Marc

ktmguy

2012-04-07 11:39:00 UTC

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marc lenssen

2012-04-09 17:49:00 UTC

I'm saving up KTMguy

In Tuneecu with engine switched off I get a TPS reading of 2-3% with throttle not touched. Does this mean my TPS needs adjusting? I thought it had to be on 0%?

Thanks,
Marc

Colonel_Klinck

2012-04-09 17:57:00 UTC

Mine is on 4% engine cold and off.

marc lenssen

2012-04-09 18:20:00 UTC

So, no issue then?

MrZ32

2012-04-09 21:10:00 UTC

It is fine as long as the bike doesn't stall when you suddenly lift off the throttle or under heavy braking... If it does then it may need some adjusting

marc lenssen

2012-04-09 22:25:00 UTC

Tops,

Bike runs fine and hasn't stalled since I have it, rock steady idle.

Thanks MrZ,
Marc

kevxtx

2012-04-09 22:31:00 UTC

The TPS reads 2 to 4% because the stepper motor has raised the throttle plate ready for cranking. If it does not lift the throttle plate for some reasion the bike won't crank over.

Scribe78

2012-04-10 20:37:00 UTC

When we use the O2 Sensor Eliminators that come with Power Commanders, we trick the ECU into using only the open loop maps (F maps in TuneECU).

But what about when we turn the O2 sensors off using TuneECU? Obviously this means the ECU is technically running in open loop mode because there's no feedback from the O2 sensors. But does the ECU still use the closed loop maps (L maps in TuneECU) below the F-L thresholds, or does it use ONLY the F maps when the O2 sensors have been turned off? In other words, is turning them off EXACTLY the same as using O2 Sensor Eliminators, or is there a difference?

AGRO!

2012-04-10 22:08:00 UTC

Hey Scribe I think the only way to check this would be to put all FL settings to Zero as me thinks that at idle the bike is still using the L map. So if its only using the F map the bike will not idle properly but if it is using the L map It will idle properly?

Scribe78

2012-04-11 00:20:00 UTC

Agro - you mean turning the O2 sensors off in TuneECU might disable the L maps everywhere except at idle?

AGRO!

2012-04-11 02:02:00 UTC

Sort of but I was thinking more along the lines of putting all FL switch setting to 0. As this should let you know if the L maps have anything to do with turning the 02s off. As you said with the 02s off does it run on F map only and my thought was the best way to test would be to set FL switch to all 0 by doing this the map would only run on F map. If it doesn't idle like normal this means that the L map has to be used for low settings. Me I think that with 02s off the L map is still activated.
Does this make sense?

Scribe78

2012-04-11 03:11:00 UTC

I get what you're saying, and might try it out.

Makes sense to me that the L maps might continue to function on the low side of the F-L switch, with or without the O2 sensors to provide feedback - unless the ECU goes into some kind of "safe mode" when it can't see the O2 sensors, guarding against engine damage from overly lean mixture by using only the F maps.

AGRO!

2012-04-11 06:55:00 UTC

Keep me posted on the outcome.

marc lenssen

2012-04-11 14:06:00 UTC

I ran the l-f mapping at 0% as of 2000rpm, works fine.
Question on the o2 sensors? If I switch them off in Tuneecu, are they still heated? If not they probably get knackered real soon if I don't physically remove them. German forum mentions that someone in KTM mentioned that the official Akra mapping leaves the power to the heating on but the ECU disregards the lambda signals. Just switching them off in Tuneecu actually cuts the heating power. Suggestion on the German forum is to leave them switched on. Also to not set the l-f mapping anywhere below 5%, as the TPS is not precise enough at very low openings.

regs,
Marc

AGRO!

2012-04-11 23:09:00 UTC

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Scribe78

2012-04-12 01:23:00 UTC

Thanks, guys, for going to all this trouble to answer my question. I just wish I understood what you said. I can't even figure out how to ask for clarification. So, Agro, would you mind laying it out for me from the beginning one more time? How do we now know that the L maps are still in play after the O2 sensors have been turned off in TuneECU? Sorry to be so dense here...

AGRO!

2012-04-12 02:35:00 UTC

I will try But in a nut shell I think that the L map is still activated even when the 02s are turned off.
If this was not so the smoothened Akra map that James has done would not use any L map settings.
If you have a look at the smoothened map you will see that from low throttle to 2000 rpm the settings go from 12 12 6 then 0 onwards.
So if you would like to see if this is not so just set all FL switch settings to 0. At 0 the L map should be deactivated and the bike should not Idle.
Me I think It wont idle and just keep cutting out. But I could be wrong
You would be better off to ask Mrz Just to make sure as I could be leading you up the garden path

kevxtx

2012-04-12 21:14:00 UTC

F/L maps are active all the time with O2 sensor on or off, the F/L maps have nothing to do with the closed loop circuits, the O2 sensor runs off its own map with the fuel trims set to 14.7:1, it looks for coolant temp/rpm/engine load to work out it if it will switch to the closed loop map/circuit to lean the bike out, it would be great if we could tune the closed loop fuel trims/circuit to 13.6:1.

The F/L tables have no effect on the closed loop circuit, F/L maps as mentioned are only for open loop tuning.

If a fuel map has been tuned correctly there is no nead to move the switch points, I will be back on the Dyno on Thursday & will check to see what effect it has to the A/F ratio when the switch points are moved & the F/L maps have not been completely remapped in those zones for the adjustments.

Scribe78

2012-04-12 22:37:00 UTC

Kevxtx - If the L maps are not the closed loop maps, what purpose do they serve? What's the advantage of the L maps using MAP instead of TPS as the horizontal axis of the table?

marc lenssen

2012-04-13 05:10:00 UTC

From what I read on different forums the TPS is not exact enough at low opening %. The MAP sensor driven L maps would be more exact.
The idea of changing the L maps in such a way that the difference in fuelling between L and F maps at the switchover points is interesting, this would indeed lessen the on-off effect. It means quite a lot of adjustement though, the difference between L and F map fuelling is pretty big. Curious to see if we get a mapping that brings teh 2 closer together at the switch points.

Marc

kevxtx

2012-04-13 07:19:00 UTC

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marc lenssen

2012-04-13 07:55:00 UTC

Hello Kevxtx,

The difference between the L and F mapping could be signifant. That switch point might feel quite jerky when riding in slow town traffic for instance. Unpleasant. Are you saying that if the bike is tuned properly this jerkiness is less? Would that involve changing the values in the L or F mapping in such a way that the difference in fuelling at switchpoint is less aggressive?

I am riding a bog standard SD 2006 and have the L-F mapping switchpoints set to 0% above 2000 rpm, 2nd flies open 100% and o2 sensors switched off. You would say that the L-F switchmap changes can cause more then just a fuelling change but also an iginition change? Thereby the bike may run at whatever unknown config which is not always the best?

I have to say that my bike witch current settings rides fine but somehow boring and I am not too comfortable with the adjusted settings (except for the flies, which I should fully remove soon).

I think we just opened the discussion on here on potentially changing the L maps instead of just the F maps and switchpoint. What would be your suggestion?
Thanks,
Marc

marc lenssen

2012-04-13 08:00:00 UTC

And on a slightly different note: when I bought the bike a few weeks ago it run nicely aggressive, bit hesitant and jerky below 4000rpm but I figured that is simply how big twins run (had the same on my 2003 Honda Varadero).\
When I finally got my cables and ran a tuneecu I saw that the bike had the KTM Akra mapping loaded, I guess the previous owner had akra's and switched back to standard cans before selling the bike but neglecting to switch the mapping back to standard..

Is it an idea to open the side service flaps a bit on the airbox, hoping to get a bit more air, and run the richer akra mapping? Would I then still run overly rich? Or is it the standard anker that is the bottle neck in the breathing off this beast?

Thanks,
Marc

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2012-04-13 12:08:00 UTC

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Scribe78

2012-04-13 12:14:00 UTC

Thanks for the explanations. This is all making much more sense to me now. I can understand the need for MAP-driven calculations when TPS readings are likely to be less accurate and/or when air pressure values are likely to be more important and relevant in determining the amount of air that will show up for combustion. This is all independent of the O2 sensors and the closed loop map that remains invisible to us in TuneECU.

I was thrown off from the start by something I read elsewhere that described closed loop operation as utilizing MAP, rpm and O2 sensor readings - this led to my faulty assumption that the L maps were the closed loop maps.

I have read about the Lambda Window, which is the central principle in closed loop operation. As I understand it, this is a very narrow range of fuel mixture around the stoichiometric ideal of 14.7:1, and feedback from the O2 sensor is used to maintain strict adherence to this ideal during closed loop running to minimize emissions. I assume this is what makes the stock O2 sensors "narrow-band," as opposed to the wide-band sensors used for tuning at other AFR's. It seems like the stock O2 sensors can only measure the mixture as long as it's very close to Lambda, and if the mixture drifts too far away from Lambda, the O2 sensors are no longer able to give meaningful feedback to the ECU - is that correct?

So, in a stock setup, without any interference from O2 sensor eliminators or TuneECU device management, I gather there is a switching map (like the F-L switch) that governs closed loop operation. Kevxtx says the variables for this map are coolant temp, rpm and engine load (which I assume must be calculated with the assistance of the MAP sensor, and that's what the earlier reference was referring to). And there must be a fueling map for closed loop operation that works off of an AFR table with all values set to 14.7:1. Is this right?

When we turn off the O2 sensors in TuneECU, we shut down this entire process and only the open loop maps are in play. When we use O2 sensor eliminators, we trick the ECU by sending it a constant signal it believes is coming from working O2 sensors, but it's a signal that prompts the ECU to abandon the closed loop maps and work off the open loop maps. I assume this has something to do with limitations in the closed loop's range of fueling adjustments or it's a signal that the ECU interprets as meaning the mixture is too far outside the Lambda Window for the O2 sensor's feedback to be meaningful. But I'm not clear on this yet. What conditions would prompt the O2 sensors to send this signal in a completely stock setup?

kevxtx

2012-04-13 12:55:00 UTC

A O2 sensor sends a voltage signal to the ECU as soon as the bike starts up, when at operating temp which is usually around coolant temp 70C the closed loop starts to operate, it looks at RPM verse TPS % & will decide when to sample the O2 voltage reading. The heater circuit is supplied voltage from the coil + circuit, the neg is ECU switched.

The KTM uses an old type closed loop circuit, on the newer bikes we are using different tools to adjust the closed loop circuits.

The closed loop circuit is used as an emission control device mapped to 14.7:1 which it is far from perfect, if the closed loop circuit was mapped at 13.6.:1 we would not feel the change over, Dyno jet have of late have listed a O2 emulator which simulates a 14.7:1 mixture but acutally fools the ECU & the true A/F ratio is 13.6:1 for the newer FI bikes.

The closed loop circuit is triggered by coolant Temp/RPM/TPS.

For best results untick your O2 sensor using Tune ECU & map your bike corretly on a Dyno or Data logging device.

Scribe78

2012-04-13 20:38:00 UTC

Many thanks for your efforts to answer my questions, Kevxtx! You've been very generous, and I'm gradually getting it. Sorry to say I'm still not clear on the normal operation of the O2 sensor. Under what conditions would the stock O2 sensor send the same signal as the O2 sensor eliminators, prompting the ECU to abandon the closed loop maps in favor of the open loop maps? I mean, what does that particular message to the ECU normally mean with everything stock?

kevxtx

2012-04-13 21:09:00 UTC

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larryf8

2012-04-14 11:12:00 UTC

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Bert

2012-04-14 11:39:00 UTC

larryf8, you loose engine braking because you leave the secondary butterflies open (100% values).
About the high idle RPM... my bike always does this after changing a map or after doing the 15 min reset. It has always fixed itself after doing some riding.

larryf8

2012-04-14 11:47:00 UTC

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AGRO!

2012-04-14 12:20:00 UTC

Hey Larry did you restart the engine after the ride? Why I'm asking is that I had the same thing happen one time after loading a map and going for a ride it would hold revs so I pulled over turned engine off then restarted and it was normal again.

jambox

2012-04-14 12:20:00 UTC

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larryf8

2012-04-14 21:15:00 UTC

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larryf8

2012-04-14 21:19:00 UTC

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Scribe78

2012-04-15 20:26:00 UTC

Kevxtx, or anyone else with insight and interest in this area -

There was a controversy in another thread (see: "some good reasons to keep the O2-sensors working") in which an Austrian tuner named Highscore insisted that using O2 sensor eliminators forced the ECU to also stop using inputs from pressure and temperature sensors that would allow it to compensate for atmospheric changes. He said that using the eliminators might make the bike run better at the temp and altitude in which its open loop map had been designed, but not in significantly different atmospheric conditions (just like a carbureted bike). He said this is because the eliminators only create a passive resistance to voltage, imitating the presence of a sensor, but without the active signal of a real sensor.

The ECU would only encounter this in the stock setup when the sensor hadn't yet reached operating temperature. When presented with this situation, he said, the ECU waits on the sensor's signal, defaults to a richer open loop map, and suspends consideration of inputs from air pressure and temperature sensors that normally help shape the ECU's calculations. One poster agreed strongly that this must be true because his bike only ran well at different altitudes with the O2 sensors engaged. Other posters argued that, with O2 sensor eliminators installed, their bikes still adjusted to altitude perfectly well. Where do you stand on this point about the eliminators, and how is it different if the O2 sensors are disabled in TuneECU?

Also, people talk about "fuel cut" on closed throttle as part of the reason for abrupt throttle response in FI bikes, and sometimes attribute it to the O2 sensors because getting rid of them makes throttle response smoother. Is this thing called fuel cut really the switch into closed loop mode, wherein the mixture is much leaner? I guess the same could be true for the transition between the F and L maps, if the contrast between them is great enough. (When I look at my maps, the L maps look much, much leaner than the F maps.) Is fuel cut one or both of these things, or something entirely different?

As always, thanks very much to everyone who helps us understand these confusing matters!

AGRO!

2012-04-15 23:10:00 UTC

I know with the Yamaha FZ1 that they had throttle snatch probs especially on the 06 model and you can buy a fuel cut eliminator from a dude called Ivan in the USA. Here is a bit of what he wrote.

2006 - 2010 Yamaha FZ-1 Page

This bike has lazy throttle response, and also the typical abrupt on/off throttle transition problem that all of todays EFI bikes have.

This is due to "fuel cut".....

"Fuel cut" happens when you close the throttle anytime above 4500 rpm (on this bike), the fuel injectors will stop.....

Upon re-application of the throttle, there is a delay before the system will start back up and re-wet the intake tract and combustion chamber..... the rider feels this as a delay and jerky response from closed throttle.... especially while leaned over in a turn.

In addition to the response problem, there is also one loud bang from out the exhaust that is usually heard when re-applying the throttle, after you change the exhaust.

Under these conditions, throttle response is much less than precise.
I have designed the FCEtm (fuel cut eliminator - $195.00) for this bike, and as a result there is a marked difference as to how much better this bike responds under any riding condition.... and as the first dyno chart shows, more midrange power between 6000 & 9000 rpm.
The product will add as much as 10hp due to the sub-throttles opening at a faster rate as well as preventing the EFI system from shutting off under decel conditions.

Combined with proper fuel and ignition mapping, this bike is transformed from a precarious ride under aggressive riding conditions to a perfectly smooth and predictable ride under any riding condition.
This product will make a marked improvement in any year fuel injected Yamaha FZ-1 (2006 - 2010) because it eliminates the root cause of the abrupt throttle response - "Fuel Cut" and it also offers the advantage of a faster opening rate of the sub-throttles.... regardless of what the factory may have done to improve this model.
The fact is... as long as there is "fuel cut", the problem will remain.

kevxtx

2012-04-15 23:24:00 UTC

I am not sying I am right or wrong I am just sharing my finds.

I do not find the fuel cut off agressive with a correctly tuned map on my 990 with 2nd files removed, with the second flies removed it gets rid of alot of compression braking.

I data logged my SMR using Dyno Jets wideband commander 1 which can record hours out riding & captures RPM/ TPS/ A/F ratio's, I log my bike for 4 months building different maps for different mods before I got my PCV.

From the logs I could see with the O2 sensors turned off the A/F ratio changed at altitude & ambient air temps, 600m above sea level would be the highest I would ride. The bike was tuned at sea level, what I did find there was a difference using different fuel RON ratings between 95 & 98, about 0.6:1 difference between the fuels, the bike was tuned using BP 95 & it ran richer with BP 98 fuel used & a A/F ratio difference between the fuel manufactures using the same ron fuel.

With my bike mapped correctly using a PCV +Tune link software it is 99% perfect, I have no abrupt throttle openings off over run cut off. I found using the Akra map it was to lean at Zero throttle above 3000rpm & to rich below that. The Akra's map balance of A/F ratios between the 2 cylinder was shocking, I also checked my standard map & it's A/F balance as also way out which is half the problem.

The other problems are most riders share maps, if you know anything about tunning you should now no 2 bikes are the same, the other problem which I have proven over the years different countries run different fuel blends which effects the A/F ratio big time, so if you are sharing maps from country to country the maps A/F ratio could be be way out. If you build your map using let's say BP 95 you should run that fuel all the time, if you now switch to Shell 98 the A/F will be different I have proven this a few times over the years. If you have summer & winter fuels it will affect the bikes Tune.

So the moral of the story is if you want your bike to run correctly get a Dyno single cylinder tuned map & use the same fuel all the tune that is tuned for your bike, anything else the bikes tune will be out.

Scribe78

2012-04-16 01:18:00 UTC

Kevxtx,

Your point about sharing maps is well taken, and I just read about the fuel blend issue in my new fuel injection book earlier today! I just want to make sure I understood what you were saying about your altitude experience - sounds like with the O2 eliminators on, AFR changed with altitude, which we would NOT expect if the ECU was properly compensating, right? That seems consistent with Highscore's claim. Do you know if altitude compensation is preserved when disabling the O2 sensors with TuneECU?

I'm currently running a PCV with dual-channel AutoTune, but I've got the O2 sensors turned off with TuneECU. I like the automation of the Dynojet stuff I've got, but I can't really see what's happening, like you can with a Wideband Commander. I assume the AutoTune will take care of altitude compensation to some extent, but I want the ECU making the best possible calculations to start with.

kevxtx

2012-04-16 02:56:00 UTC

I have not done any data logging with the O2 sensors connected as it is pointless, you can not tune the bike correctly with the closed loop pulling the A/F ratio to 14.7:1 when you are trying to keep the A/F ratio between 13.2 & 13.6 for for best power & good fuel economy.

The switch points between open to closed circuit from A/F ratios 13.6:1 to 14.7:1 when on the cruise can felt quite a bit, I have tried turning on the O2 sensors after a custom map & it felt terrible on the cruise.

Scribe78

2012-04-16 03:15:00 UTC

Kevxtx - I didn't mean tuning with the O2 sensors on. I get it that closed loop operation cancels out any fueling changes. I'm just trying to understand if/how the ECU functions differently with the O2 sensors turned off in TuneECU, as opposed to using O2 sensor eliminators.

kevxtx

2012-04-16 06:25:00 UTC

Turning off the closed loop circuit or using O2 eliminator are two different things.

When the O2 sensors are turn off they are off, when using an eliminator you are fixing the A/F ratio to a predetermined A/F ratio in the closed loop circuit & will still switch between open & closed loop circuits.

Turning them off is the best result.

When I have some spare time I will data log the closed loop circuit A/F ratio with O2 eliminators for you.

AGRO!

2012-04-16 09:20:00 UTC

Hey Kev do you know much about the kastl that Highscore is selling?

kevxtx

2012-04-16 09:39:00 UTC

Sorry I don't mate, high score would be the best person to ask.

I don't think there is a perfect 100% tune for these 990's as there are many factors beside the fuel injection at the lower RPMs one being the V twin engine design, if some could get into the closed loop maps then things could be quite different, the problem with the closed loop circuit is it has other adaptive trims within the equation that can effect the over all injector adaption trims.

Scribe78

2012-04-16 12:48:00 UTC

Thanks again for all the time you've put into answering questions here, Kevxtx. If I understand you correctly, you're saying that turning the O2 sensors off with TuneECU eliminates all closed loop operations, but using the O2 sensor eliminators only stabilizes the closed loop operation at fixed default values, while the ECU continues to switch back and forth between open and closed loop mapping. Actually, the closed loop mode in this case isn't truly closed any more, without feedback from the O2 sensors, but the ECU still switches to the failsafe mapping for closed loop operation at the same switching points that it did with the O2 sensors hooked up.

When I asked Dynojet about this, they would only tell me that the O2 sensor eliminators forced the ECU to operate in open loop mode continuously. Technically, this is correct and obvious - by definition, closed loop operation requires an active signal from the O2 sensors for feedback. But this matter of the ECU continuing to switch back and forth between the usual open loop maps and a hidden closed loop map is an important consideration for tuning, as it introduces a variation in fueling that we cannot see or control. If that's true, turning off the O2 sensors in TuneECU would have a clear advantage over using O2 sensor eliminators.

I guess the only way to be absolutely certain about this would be to compare data using the O2 sensor eliminators with data using TuneECU to disable the O2 sensors.

stalker

2012-04-26 19:40:00 UTC

please please please can someone point me at the driver i need to hook up to bike , as i plug it in and nothing .

if i am doing it right the one the tuneecu website points me to is not working . need bike working in the morning.

thanks in advance .

Bert

2012-04-26 19:50:00 UTC

stalker... providing us with as much information as possible makes it alot easier for us to help you. Just saying 'it doesn't work' doesn't tell us a lot, does it... Did you plug in the cable?

Did you get the drivers from ? (that page provides you with a link to ).

stalker

2012-04-26 20:01:00 UTC

sorry bert.

installed the framework and have saved some maps to try. all good.

i have a tuneboy cable . pluged in the the cable turned the ign on and nothing. not even a manual connect .

tried the site you and tom point too , but still nothing. must be me .

Bert

2012-04-26 20:09:00 UTC

where did you get the cable?

When you plug in the cable, does it show in the Windows device manager or is there a yellow exclamation mark?

stalker

2012-04-26 20:13:00 UTC

came with the bike but never used as the bike was still standard .

nothing comes up on the computer when pluged into the bike ,

if i go into devices it shows it . but with a yellow exclamation mark.

Bert

2012-04-26 20:22:00 UTC

this means that the driver wasn't installed.
What is your OS? Windows XP, 7? What happens when you run ? Error messages? Confirmation message?
Try to run the file without the cable plugged in. Reboot the computer and then plug in the cable. You should see some things happen in the systray (bottom right of the screen, where the clock is). What does it say?

stalker

2012-04-26 20:26:00 UTC

that file takes you to a page saying not available .

nothing comes up on the screen at all.

searching and searching through posts trying to see if i missed something , but i think i just need a driver.

Bert

2012-04-26 20:46:00 UTC

very strange. When I click the link I'm presented with a file (CDM20824_Setup.exe).
When I doubleclick the file I'm presented with a warning. Proceeding just pops up a command window (black dos box) that prompts me that the driver was installend and then closes automatically.

If you want to try it the old fashioned way, do the following. Download the zip file with the appropriate driver for your OS (32 bit or 64 bit) from (you will need to scroll down a bit). Extract the files from the zip file to a location that you can remember.
Go to the device manager with the cable plugged in and right-click the line with the exclamation mark. Choose update driver (or install driver, not sure what it will say).
Choose search my computer for a driver and browse to the folder where you extrated the zip file.
That should do the trick...

stalker

2012-04-26 20:59:00 UTC

thanks for the help bert . i will keep trying tonight.

stalker

2012-05-03 14:03:00 UTC

new cable rocked up and hey presto all good.

so the tuneboy cable was the problem (and it was brand new) .thanks again bert.

Bert

2012-05-03 14:09:00 UTC

I'm glad you got it working!

No. 47

2012-05-03 14:11:00 UTC

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stalker

2012-05-03 17:46:00 UTC

NO MATE . HERE

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221000374338? ... 1438.l2649

GOOD SERVICE AND FAST .

No. 47

2012-05-03 18:42:00 UTC

Ta..... or rather TA

stalker

2012-05-03 20:41:00 UTC

sorry i was shouting

SuperHoon

2012-05-04 00:46:00 UTC

tried to hook my 07 SD up to my laptop and its not linking!! GRR.

i get an error on my laptop saying i need to install drivers for "FT232R USB UART" ....

what is going on here?

CADScott

2012-05-04 02:25:00 UTC

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SuperHoon

2012-05-04 03:00:00 UTC

2012-05-26 17:37:00 UTC

I have never bothered with a 15 min reset after changing a map but others will tell you it's important. You definitely don't need to worry about downloading a map with 02s on and then another with them off. Just choose one or another.

The faster idle can be normal sometimes when changing to a new map. It should settle back down to just below 1500 rpm (for the SD) after 10 secs or so (mine took that long). If not, then maybe the TPS needs adjusting though I'm not sure if the values are any different for the RC8. Perhaps somebody else knows more?

Grendel

2012-05-27 20:02:00 UTC

ok so I know this is prolly an easy question and may have been answered before but I can't seem to find it. I have downloaded the latest tune ecu software and an waiting on the cable..I opened the program just to see what it was like and everything it shows is the Triumph guages etc etc...I am not able to access any of the options in tune ecu either. (am iu to assume this is because I have not hooked it up to my bike and downloaded a map yet??) So is there a way to change them, to KTM face...did i download the wrong version etc etc...any help is greatly appreciated.

stalker

2012-05-27 20:30:00 UTC

KTM gauges will show when you hook it up to your bike. Also, once it is hooked up, so long as you are on the correct tab, all the options will be enabled.

mytskaniuk

2012-05-27 23:38:00 UTC

2012-06-20 18:32:00 UTC

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jambox

2012-06-20 18:53:00 UTC

Yes, it has a standard SD engine, but KTM is claiming 125 hp or so for the 2012 R and the have modified the oil pumps. So maybe older SD could benefit from the mapping, if there is something new.

Bert

2012-07-01 22:15:00 UTC

my disconnection issues have been sorted when I changed my bust reg/rec for one that No 47 sent me it now stays connected

Jermo

2012-07-02 01:03:00 UTC

can someone steer me in the way of cable please??

tripoddave

2012-07-02 08:27:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-07-02 09:25:00 UTC

To turn off the O2 sensors, do I have to download the complete mapping, change it and upload it again or is there a quicker way to do this?

Bert

2012-07-02 11:37:00 UTC

Can someone recommend me a map to start from please?
We have a run up tomorrow and the mpping we've currently got is WAAAAAYYY off!

So spec is:
2005 Superduke
DNA Stage III Airbox
SDR throttle bodies
Gas flowed
Race Cams
Hi comp pistons
SDR Headers
Akra Evo Y and Cans.
other than that the motor is completely standard (or not).
thanks.

tripoddave

2012-07-02 11:53:00 UTC

Dude no one has a setup anything like that.

Mine is Motobox, Full Evo, 2nd Flies out. You are more than welcome to try but its missing some of the key ingredients

Jermo

2012-07-02 12:19:00 UTC

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No. 47

2012-07-02 21:22:00 UTC

2012-07-18 19:31:00 UTC

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gfunkmc

2012-07-29 12:24:00 UTC

2008 sdr what is the correct tps settings I am getting 0% at closed throttle and 94% at full throttle, 6.1v at closed throttle and 3.7 at full open

Jermo

2012-07-29 14:23:00 UTC

0%, 100%, 0.6V and 3.7V engine hot on mine.

Jermo

2012-07-29 20:19:00 UTC

thanks No 47 bike is running funny again, surely my exhaust gaskit has not gone again in less than 100 miles

gfunkmc

2012-07-29 22:04:00 UTC

What do you mean, funny?

Colonel_Klinck

2012-07-30 21:18:00 UTC

similar to last, at low rpm it is missing a bit like it is lean or cutting out briefly, not all the time, so took the race belly pan of today to find the bracket under the engine bust , so loosend of the whole lot and realigned things, do you take the tps readings while the engine is cold bike turned on but engine not running,

Colonel_Klinck

2012-07-30 21:21:00 UTC

Engine off but hot, minimum four bars.

KTM666

2012-07-30 21:26:00 UTC

thankyou for the quick reply

KronosMotorsports

2012-08-01 09:39:00 UTC

how the funk do i turn off mu o2 sensors and secondary throttle sensors keep getting 0222 error i need a guide

cdlabate

2012-08-01 21:06:00 UTC

Did you save the mapping before you downloaded it to your ECU?

jambox

2012-08-01 21:15:00 UTC

I'm thinking of putting the secondaries on 100% open until I made my own airbox, then I'll remove motor and shafts as well and custom map the SD.

1: Does anyone know what setting them at 100% does to the A/F ratio?

2: Is the only difference for the smoothened mapping the [ 12 - 12 - 6 - 0 - 0 - 0 ] numbers in the "F-L switch" part?

Edit:
Got my answers by now, Klinck sent me the smooth mapping. Differences are the secondaries @ 100% all the time and the F-L numbers I mentioned above. Did the same to the SDR Akra mapping for a friend as well now.

gfunkmc

2012-08-05 19:32:00 UTC

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Bert

2012-08-05 19:56:00 UTC

You have to turn them off by right clicking on them (hmm I think it's right click) save the map, then download it back to ECU.

Jermo

2012-08-12 17:49:00 UTC

+1
If you don't know what exactly you change and why you do this, DON'T!

While reading the map unplug the headlight fuse (second fuse from left side) to make sure you won't drain the battery. Downloading the map only takes a short time so unplugging the fuse for downloading only isn't needed.

gfunkmc

2012-08-12 20:01:00 UTC

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Tom-Hamburg

2012-08-23 21:41:00 UTC

Update August -21-2012, TuneECU 2.3.4 now Released

Note:
* Lambda sensor can be deactivated in map 0 and/or map 1 (Walbro Euro III)
* Added some Walbro maps.

BR, Tom

41KS

2012-08-28 09:02:00 UTC

Any advice where to get reliable Tune ECU cable inside EU? (asking as I do not want to mess with with questionable quality electronics...)

Tom-Hamburg

2012-08-30 06:41:00 UTC

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Keenaz

2012-08-30 17:59:00 UTC

When was the last time you took your bike into the dealer. They can scan the EFI system for trouble and upload update for the EFI system.

Don't think it true. I was up to here with my herky jurky throttle on my 08 SDR. I had taking it in two years ago. And the dealer did a update back then. And the bike was better. But as of the last few months, the herky jurky has come back. So much so as I was thinking of selling the bike.

Last weekend I had plans to do a Sunday Monday over mightier. And was going to take my 02 R1 sportbike instead of my SDR. But at the last minute desired to have the dealer scan the bike for troubles. So took the bike in on Saturday morning. And while the bike was being worked on I took there 2012 RC8R Demo bike out to my back yard twisty road, Mines road in Livermore ca. I was out on it for over two hours. What a fun bike. Throttle is now super smooth. I was right. They added flywheel waight to the 2012 to smooth out the herky jurkys.

So when I got back. The device manager said the found four trouble codes. One was the rear cylinder secondary butterflys motor was way out of adjustment. He said they wear able to re calibrate it. He also said the TPS was out of adjustment. Long story short. The bike ran smoothly the hole trip.

jambox

2012-09-17 21:42:00 UTC

Update September-17-2012, TuneECU 2.3.5 now Released

Note:

* Adding "Reset Adaption" command for KTM 990/1190, F7 graphic mode enabled in L, A/F tables.

BR, Tom

Mr_Trecolareco

2013-01-17 23:10:00 UTC

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Aphex

2013-01-30 15:54:00 UTC

Just wanted to make sure I have this right.

Untick AIS, is there only one hose to plug in the airbox?

EPC is the 2nd/3rd gear limiter so I can untick that.

I can disable the secondaries but how do I set them to 100% open?

What will I gain from unticking the o2 sensor?

I've read/backed up the current map on my bike but how do I tell what map it is? Just by going to "map info" and reading the map comments?

Did Klinck, ever put together that pdf of frequent Q&A for TuneECU and the SD?

One67

2013-02-08 07:49:00 UTC

Is anyone still having trouble with the tune ecu software becoming unresponsive when you fire up the engine ?

Everything is fine with just the ignition on, so I've been able to download maps, but when I fire up the engine it responds for about 5 seconds then just acts as if there is no connection, has a blinking red square at the bottom right side of the screen.

I've got the latest version of tune ecu.

ktmjunkie

2013-02-08 08:04:00 UTC

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One67

2013-02-08 09:30:00 UTC

Thanks ktmjunkie and ktmguy, I'll give it a go.

jambox

2013-02-14 05:47:00 UTC

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAG-COM-KKL-409 ... e7&vxp=mtr

will this cable work? The link in the beginning of this thread is not active..

jambox

2013-02-14 13:04:00 UTC

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ktmjunkie

2013-02-14 19:09:00 UTC

Okay great thanx I was thinking I needed one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KTM-Motorcycles ... 13&vxp=mtr

Aphex

2013-02-14 19:19:00 UTC

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lockers

2013-02-15 07:01:00 UTC

I do not know if i am allowed to mention it here but i also have some cables to offer, because of tax and shipping it would be mainly interesting for Europe only i think but just send me a pn if you want some...i could also do the ground mod so that tuneecu does not crash anymore when connected and bike is running!

MrZ32

2013-02-18 20:26:00 UTC

Hi there
After reading many post I decided to buy the tune ecu cable to do a couple of mods on my 990 sd. So I brought the sas black off kit and wanted to turn of the O2 sensors.

So cable arrives I plug in read map(akro dealer map)so I save the map as start base map great all done.
Next day fit the sas plates so connect tune ecu back up to turn sas and O2 sensors off download new map, disconnect BAM fi light is on blink code 54 (or p0444)canister purge valve code won't deleat but bike run perfect not as much serging but fi light still on. Phoned a couple of dealers that had no idea .

So after getting the hump a couple of time I decided to download a random map similar specto what I have got logged that in fi light goes out delete code job done.

So my question is has any 1 got or recommend a map for my

2008 uk superduke. I live in uk as well if that makes a difference
Round akro end cans
Sas removed
02sensors tuned off
Stock air filter
And maybe 2nd flys set to 100%till I get a moto box or remove them (your opinions please)

Many thanks del

P.s I do love my beast of sd

lockers

2013-02-19 04:49:00 UTC

does anyone have the zip they can upload box is saying he has no more bandwidth

MrZ32

2013-02-19 05:26:00 UTC

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Tom-Hamburg

2013-02-20 03:36:00 UTC

Had my PC3usb die on me today I think... Well, sort of.

Bike was running a bit funny (which was fixed by balancing the throttle bodies) but while I had the bike hooked up to TuneECU and the PC3usb software I came across a firmware update for the PC3usb. Updated the firmware but now the bike won't run for more than a few seconds. Stupid PC3usb.

Removed the PC3usb (thanks to TuneECU I really don't need it) and of course bike seems to run fine. BUT. I had a custom tune on my PC3usb.

I imported the custom map into TuneECU and commited the trims to the ECU map and downloaded it to my bike.

I do seem to recall however that with the PC3usb and KTM ecu the cylinders are reversed.... Does the TuneECU software take this into account or would my map be rooted at the moment?

I haven't actually been for a ride cos I'm off to work in about 10 mins....

Any input??

Thanks guys.

Tom-Hamburg

2013-02-20 05:53:00 UTC

Hi Lockers,

you have to do it, TuneECU takes ist as is.

I do it with the Power Commander Software and after swapping the zylinders import it to TuneECU.

Not a big deal but a little fiddling with copy and paste and saving (to a new file!) in between.

Cheers
Roland

ktmguy

2013-02-20 10:11:00 UTC

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blb

2013-03-12 15:11:00 UTC

I have a 59 plate (late 2009) model standard superduke with Akra round slip ons, sas removed and blanked and i have used smoothened 07-08 hex file but what is the difference between that and the 09-10 smoothened file?. I ask as to be honest how do I tell if mine is an 08 bike purchased in 09 or is in fact an 09 bike?.

Thanks in advance Gary.

hjp1968

2013-04-12 21:34:00 UTC

2013-04-23 21:04:00 UTC

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AGRO!

2013-04-30 16:35:00 UTC

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weeksy

2013-04-30 19:06:00 UTC

Hi
My throttle bodies were way out, feels much smoother now.

jambox

2013-05-19 15:11:00 UTC

Just downloaded James' smoothed akra file to my 2010 990 uk spec Sd using tune-ecu. I was surprised how quickly the map downloaded and somebody mentioned that I need to download 2 maps to the ecu. Can some some ody confirm this and if true, how do I select separate map files and transfer them? Cheers, Graham

weeksy

2013-05-23 13:01:00 UTC

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weeksy

2013-05-25 06:29:00 UTC

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ktmguy

2013-05-25 06:53:00 UTC

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robjederuiter

2013-05-26 07:27:00 UTC

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weeksy

2013-05-26 09:26:00 UTC

Weeksy what do you want to achieve by blocking the SAS?
If it's the backfire (popping) then you should either block the hose connected to the airbox (I plugged it with a bolt and some teflon tape) or remove it completely and assemble block plates.
Anyway the SAI should be unticked in tune ecu ( empty square)

I have the 06 akra map, O2 and SAI unticked, works for me (standard stacks en sec flies not removed)

robjederuiter

2013-05-26 10:12:00 UTC

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AGRO!

2013-05-26 10:57:00 UTC

2013-06-05 20:20:00 UTC

Yestrday I decided to load ne map. I get cables from my friend and first downloaded original map. It is AKRA map and it was loaded by dealer. Bike was bought with AKRA round cans. I don`t have db-killers in.
Here are some picures :
COLD bike, not running

HOT bike, not running

HOT bike, running

Then I uploaded "smoothened" map, did 15min reset and went on a ride.

I have to say WOW! If I would now this before I would do it when I bought bike.

I struggled last year with poorly controllable bike. Driving was not so much fun like on my old 950SM.
This year I replaced tyres for Diablo rosso corsas and suspension setting seems perfect, bike is great trough corners.
But now, when I tried this new map, I feel like I have NEW BIKE.

Twisty road I ride to work and back just become favorite road.
It looks like there is not so much engine braking when off throttle, engine is not so twitchy, on/off throttle is smooth, bike pulls in second like mad (made surprise wheelie in second when passing truck).
Also sound from air filter is different (mostly under high revs with throttle off).

Bike is more smooth now and driving is more fun then ever!
Don`t hesitate, TUNE IT!

AGRO!

2013-06-07 16:10:00 UTC

Can someone tell me what the difference between the 07+smoothened map for standard sd and the James 07+ smoothened please?. I have a 59 plate standard SD with Akra rounds and SAS removed and blanked.
Cheers Gary.

levert

2013-06-08 08:34:00 UTC

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levert

2013-06-08 08:47:00 UTC

2013-08-01 02:22:00 UTC

As far as I know all maps are the same format therefore the map shouldn't really effect idle unless there is something really wrong.
Now what could be wrong? Check using TuneECU the idle setting. Is it correct? If not get another map as the one you are using is corrupt.
If it is Ok then now what? Throttle cables too tight? Was it Ok before the 15minute reset? If it was then try re-loading the same map. I don't
think this will actually work because the 15minute reset seems to modify some static values in the ECU that is not available to TuneECU but
it is worth a try. If all else fails go back to the original map.

No. 47

2013-08-01 06:25:00 UTC

Puzzled by this 'cos according to the parts fiches '11 SDRs are the same as '08-'10 SDRs - will compare maps today but could be that they differ in areas TuneECU can't reach?

No. 47

2013-08-01 10:29:00 UTC

2013-08-30 13:54:00 UTC

2013-09-07 08:54:00 UTC

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Top_cat2

2013-09-17 08:58:00 UTC

2013-10-28 17:14:00 UTC

Anyone out there running E10? Here in California we only have only 10% Ethanol blend at the pump. Generically speaking, that means running ~10% rich to get similare results, or so I am told. At this point I am not so much concerned with WOT, but more light throttle. Is 13.8 AFR a reasonable cruising light throttle AFR with E10, or should I be shooting for something richer? Right now I am at 13.2 or so. I'd like to streach the mileage a bit. It's an 05 with the smaller tank and at best, I can pull down 75 miles before the light come on.
Thanks!

ktmguy

2013-11-12 00:43:00 UTC

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Dukem

2014-03-12 12:59:00 UTC

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solstice

2014-03-12 17:54:00 UTC

2014-03-16 06:42:00 UTC

No worries Tim glad to help Jeff
Let me know what you think after a ride...

ktmguy

2014-03-17 08:34:00 UTC

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solstice

2014-03-17 09:14:00 UTC

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Palau

2014-03-17 09:43:00 UTC

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AGRO!

2014-03-17 10:38:00 UTC

Excellent, thanks buddy

solstice

2014-03-18 07:09:00 UTC

one quick noob question..whats the differences between FI Map and EP Map? I'm still waiting for my TuneECU cable so that i can remap my bike..but i've stumbled upon this info and its quite confusing indeed

Dukem

2014-03-18 07:21:00 UTC

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solstice

2014-03-23 19:14:00 UTC

2014-04-11 09:38:00 UTC

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Aphex

2014-09-13 15:37:00 UTC

2014-09-22 21:06:00 UTC

TuneECU is awesome. I read through this thread, got a cable from Rottweiler and downloaded the software. I must be one of the lucky ones because it connected first try. My bike is a US spec 08 SDR that is stock except for a set of carbon leo's. I loaded up James's 08-10 US SDR Akra Smoothened map from the map thread and the rideablity of the bike is greatly improved. No more hunting and surging in the 3500-4500 range and the lurch when cracking the throttle is almost totally gone. I can also lug through a neighborhood at 3000rpm smoothly now, which is nice if I'm trying to keep a low profile. Those Leo's are loud. Thanks to everyone who contributed to getting this stuff figured out. I almost feel like I cheated by coming to the party late after all the bugs where worked out.

I do have some questions I was hoping somebody could answer. The guy I bought the bike from said that he took it to a guy who remapped it when he put the cans on. The map that was on the bike is 611US0802001. I understand from reading this thread that this is the stock map for a 08 US SDR. If I understand correctly maps that are modified with tuneECU retain there original names right? I want to compare the one that was on my bike to a stock unmodified 611US0802001 map to see if they are the same but I can't find the stock map to download either here or on the tuneECU site. TuneECU has the stock EU map but no US map. Next question, should I have a noticeable power increase with the smoothened akra map? Rideability is greatly improved but it doesn't feel like it gained (or lost) any noticeable power. I can see by comparing the 2 maps that the Akra map is richer everywhere. If anybody wants to look at the 611US0802001 map that was on my bike I would be happy to send it to you. Thanks!

ktmguy

2014-10-12 01:46:00 UTC

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Thom

2014-11-16 03:23:00 UTC

So using the Android App, how does one load a map to the bike?

Just realised that you can swipe back and forth to change the screens, which I didn't know about previously.

I get a few different commands on the map screen, but nothing that actually says, load the map.

I have downloaded a map, unzipped it to the file and the app can read it. I just don't know how to push it to the ECU.

Also, is there a way to look at the current map?

Thom

2014-11-17 09:02:00 UTC

Ok, to answer my own question, and for future android users

1. set up android device to the bike.

2. (remove your light fuse) and turn on the bike (electrics only).

3. Swipe once to the map screen.

4. at map screen press map to bring up map options. Load appropriate map.

5. At the ECU tab, select "Reprogram".

6. Click ok at the warning. map load will commence. Keep an eye on the flashing "battery" bar on the bottom right hand corner. The light will flash from red, to yellow, to green when complete.

7. You will either get a "map load not compatible (which is what I got twice...)" or "remapping successful!"

8. Don't forget to run your bike for 15 minutes after load.

ktmguy

2014-11-17 09:59:00 UTC

The android thing is fairly new so not much people tried it most of us use the laptop version.
Good to get your feedback!

Vortex155

2015-02-06 15:16:00 UTC

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Vortex155

2015-02-06 15:25:00 UTC

Was coming back into this topic for that Android setup on Tuneecu, I bought an OTG cable already. Have yet to setup all things proper. It's good to see that with the Android store the guys are finally earning some money with their efforts.

Not tempting to use the ELM bluetooth, the TuneEcu site clearly states that it's then read only & write to ECU is not supported. I guess it's the safest way to have an hardware connection also, becuz U don't wanna lose the BT-connection while writing into the bike's ECU.
I'll have a go with TuneEcu with my RC8.

ktmguy

2015-02-06 18:54:00 UTC

2015-03-11 05:50:00 UTC

I... I already have the ELM327... I've had it for a while to use on my cars. I understand the BT is not full feature and is mainly for diag on the bike. I'm not asking about using the ELM to upload maps.

The tuneecu website seems to describe (as well as some reviews) that with an OTG micro USB-USB adapter to connect the obd2 on the bike directly with phone lets you read/write maps, where using bluetooth cannot

bruders8146

2015-03-11 06:13:00 UTC

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bruders8146

2015-04-30 09:13:00 UTC

Can anyone advice/help

I've got the cable for the bike,got a Otg got a Samsung tablet 8.4 connected to the bike opened up the app switched on ignition and the bike won't connect?

No idea

bazz21

2015-04-30 10:46:00 UTC

try closing the app turn key on then open the app it should auto connect

bruders8146

2015-04-30 16:09:00 UTC

Winner

I did try that a few times however it's solved

Thanks

Vortex155

2015-05-08 10:06:00 UTC

2015-05-21 04:03:00 UTC

and for any one interested in using tune ecu with the android app for the smart phone after the latest up date tune ecu is working flawlessly only takes 2 seconds to load a map and doesn't lose connection at all it bullet proof now cheers bazz

990RR

2015-05-21 07:31:00 UTC

2015-07-11 07:53:00 UTC

Yes mate you can.

Once you're connected, go to the ECU drop down menu and select read map. This'll save the currently installed map (save the file as something that'll reflect this), you then load the map you want to use and then go to the Ecu menu again, then Download.

Chapinduke

2015-07-25 03:18:00 UTC

Gents, I was just able to install a motohooligan airbox and yoshimura slip ons. During the process I took out the 2nd flies and SAS as well. Klink gave me the "08US_SD_MB_2ND_FLYS_REM_FMFApex_NoDB" map, but I noticed that both cylinders are mapped the same. Is this okay? It seems having both mapped is ideal from reading this thread. Is there a more up to date map anyone has? My Superduke is standard, 2008 US. Thanks guys. This forum rocks.

ktmguy

2015-07-25 08:06:00 UTC

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Chapinduke

2015-07-25 14:31:00 UTC

Thanks ktmguy! I was also able to find a map on the interweb for a US 2008 standard w/ the rott intake and yoshi slip ons. Should be pretty close, right? I'll try all three and see how they run. Unfortunately I bricked my notebook and am attempting to resurrect an extremely old one, so I likely won't be able to try for a day or two.

jambox

2015-08-02 06:59:00 UTC

Ok I'm having a total mare with tuneecu. I cant seem to determine what the correct driver is to download. I have windows 7 64 bit - but then I get a little confused as there is no driver listed?? I did manage to get the red light flashing on my sons laptop running windows 8 but it wouldnt connect to the ECU - just came up with an error message that it could not connect. Any help most appreciated.

Chapinduke

2015-08-02 08:53:00 UTC

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xrpilot

2015-08-05 23:29:00 UTC

something really weird happend

I download the 08 SDGuysCustom possibly the best map for aftermarket pipes .hex
map to my bike but on the restart of the bike when the fuel pump make the noise
the red temp light stays solid, and the temp bars start blinking.

The bike is completely cold cause i did this first thing on the morning.

So I did some tests.

-Check all the grounds
-Clean all the sensor connectors
-Check sensors everything is great
-Check oil temp and pressures not issue at all

Do the 15:30 minute reset after downloading the map to the ECU
with the bike cold, and a fan right next to the radiator.

the temp bars blink and red light still on

I measure the temperature after the 15 minutes via TuneEcu and the fans are working fine starting right in the correct temp. So i did a run near my house with the bike trying to figure whats wrong.

Came back, load the OEM map the one i already got installed and the bars stop blinking the red light went off.

tried different maps like 08_SD_US_standard_smoothened (1).hex but not lucky trying to make this work

here is the video of the issue

https://youtu.be/GzLwClwYAqo

[youtube]https://youtu.be/GzLwClwYAqo[/youtube]

Ps: excuse my english its not my native language but i did my best trying to express the issue

ktmguy

2015-08-06 04:47:00 UTC

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xrpilot

2015-08-06 17:06:00 UTC

Damm

I suspect that you are probably right ktmguy, here in my country its like some kind of myth that the dealers sell us old models like there were the new ones, even on my vehicle tittle its said is a 2008 but i would do what you are saying i would compare my map and see what happens.

Thanks for your help, its was impossible for me to compare here with another bike cause only 2 superdukes 990 were imported here, and the other one
get the ecu fried in the ktm dealer cause they were trying to download a map for akrapovic slip ons to my friends bike.

thanks again ktmguy i would post later what happen if i load an older map

joey120373

2015-08-06 22:34:00 UTC

Did you save the old map? If you did you can cross ref it to find out what model/year it is

Aphex

2015-08-07 21:15:00 UTC

Thanks for the help,

The bike is an 06 i decode the vin online, so i load the james map 06 and it work fine.

gotta go to the dealer and see what happen the bike tittle said it is a 2008 so maybe they cheat on the
import form or something.

But im gonna make tomorow a 300kms test on an open road and keep you posted
of the tune.

ps: yes i keep on my mail the OEM map just in case

ktmguy

2015-08-19 03:47:00 UTC

Can someone tell me if there is any issue with turning the O2 sensors on with the Akra smoothened map. Just testing something and want to make sure I don't hose anything up.

Edorta

2015-10-17 12:05:00 UTC

Yesterday i checked the ecu and the map loaded is 3D03 map, SAI and O2 on.
So i think there is little to do.
Maybe the map is not properly well tuned with Exan exhaust.
Do you recommend me to mount OEM air filter?

Nukem

2015-11-07 16:40:00 UTC

Hi,

I picked up a 2009 Superduke and have been playing with it. I am looking for the best map, until I can get it dynod.

I now have:
Full Akrapovic system.
SAS removed.
Secondary Flies removed (shafts still present for now)
Rottweiler air box.
O2 killers.

I have TuneEcu, any suggestions on the best map.

Thanks Guys.

Runner130

2015-12-28 15:52:00 UTC

just making sure i have the right idea with this.

i have an 06 sd with akra slip ons with baffles in, no other modifications. i am planning on using KM610AK0503D03Map.hex off the tune ecu website. then if i want to add to this i merge this 05SD_uk_akra_DBkillers to it.

is it worth using them together right from the off?

cheers all.

DukeNukem999

2016-02-01 11:52:00 UTC

Hi everybody!

I have a doubt with pciii mappings, so if anybody can help me I would apreciate a lot.

I always use an Otto mapping in my bike and I'm very happy with it, but this mapping is made for exhaust with dbkillers and I don't use them so I want to probe with another one.

There is an map with EU specs and no dbkiller but I never use a pciii map and I want to be sure.

First of all i have to load an Akrapovic map, OK

Then import de pciii table, OK

Save the mapping, OK

And nothing more? I ask because I read something about that the values of each cilinder are oposite in power commander and tune ecu, so i don't know if anything more is necesary.

I've also see the Guys Custom map. KTMGuy is this mapping owner? I've see that you're aussie. Any problem with your mapping in a EU specs SD? And is for an open exhaust or a exhaust with DBkiller?

Thanks a lot!!!

Nukem

2016-02-08 09:20:00 UTC

I finally got around to having a play with TuneECU today. Slightly distracted by having to manage my incredibly overly helpful 4 year old at the same time, so managed to make ever single "don't do this" mistake in the book...
1) Plugged in the cable while connected to the internet and let the computer download the 'standard' cable drivers (they don't work btw - you have to go get the correct ones)
2) Didn't pay any attention to the "how to" video which clearly showed the LED lighting up on the OBD connector when the cable was connected to the bike. Eventually found that one of the wires in the cable had been severed and needed to be stripped and inserted into the plug again.
3) Couldn't get it to work for the life of me. Tried plugging and unplugging every sort of cable, no luck, put the headlight fuse back in a tried it again, no luck, suddenly thought to check the kill switch and - duh, must have banged it when moving the controls to fit bar- end mirrors (I' don't think I've ever used it on this bike). LED light came on in the cable and connection was a go!

Seems like my ('05) bike has the correct map - "KM610AK050E002 990 SuperDuke, Akrapovic slip on pipes (Off road use only, Not using O2 sensor)". Someone has already turned the SAI off - the SAS hasn't been removed but I'll be doing that in a week or so.

I got a few error codes: P0113 - Inlet air temperature sensor open circuit or short circuit to battery; P1105 - MAP sensor pipe fault; P1106 - MAP sensor2, pipe fault
As per recommendations on other posts in this thread, I'll clear the codes and see if they reoccur in case they are historical (unless someone can see a clear issue here).

I'm going to install a Motohooligan Airbox at the same time as taking off the SAS, (but I'm not sure what to do about the secondary butterflies) - so I'll be looking for a new map once that is done, and will go scrounging for help in the hex/map thread. I would have actually liked to have taken the bike to get properly dyno'ed but it doesn't seem like there is a trustworthy dyno tuner in the vicinity so I'll see what I can pick up here.

What a fantastic and powerful tool TuneECU is - massive thanks to Alain, and to all who have posted here for the little tips that helped me troubleshoot my way through getting connected.

DukeNukem999

Sorry but I don't understand your argument.
If I compare a standard map with an akra map of course it will be different.
In TuneEcu website, under my standard map there is
KM611EU0704530Map.hex OEM - KTM 990 SuperDuke 07-10 model years with Evolution Titanium exhaust
and with the same code
KM611EU0704530MapEVO4.hex - KTM 990 SuperDuke 07-10 model years with Akrapovic-Slip on Evolution Titanium exhaust with buffles
a map by Otto that I read very well from other users.
So I think I would try this last, if someone can confirm it would be very appreciate.
Thank you

Edorta

2016-04-21 06:57:00 UTC

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El_Zeta

2016-04-21 09:23:00 UTC

Ok now I understand and I'll try to compare them thank you.
The bike is the first version of superduke r from end of 2007 so the engine is the standard of superduke.
The power with standard exhaust was fine but with leovince I lost the some torque I think due lack of catalyst.
Some italian friend suggested me Otto map

dread

2016-04-23 10:50:00 UTC

Hi all .... can anyone suggest an optimised / smoothed map for a totally standard 05 bike please the current one is causing very smelly fumes.

Chefket

2016-04-27 22:51:00 UTC

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dread

2016-04-28 13:20:00 UTC

Tried Otto map the bike works good
No more thunder sound on throttle relase even if I haven't disable sas.
The on-off is still present but someone suggest me to disable the O2 in Tuneecu

dread

2016-05-11 10:02:00 UTC

Hello,

I have just finished my bike for season 2016 and it included:
Complete removal of SAS (valve and hoses is gone, block of plates is mounted and a dongle for the contact is mounted).
Yoshimura Carbon

Other than this, the bike is a standard Superduke -2007 newer version (not a hybrid of 06/07).
I'm used to bikes and engines but I have not worked alot with injection so it's fun to learn alot of new things.
I have read a lot on this forum about the remap of the bike and yesterday I set it all up and made a try with TuneECU.
It all went good but it's just something that I couldn't find an answer for here on the forum or in the manual for TuneECU.

I saved my original map, "KM611EU0704501Map.hex" and remaped it with "SDGuysCustom possibly the best map for aftermarket pipes" as It feels safe and from what I have read, it should be a great map for my bike with my setup.
It all went good and I compared it with the standard map also.

When everything is ready, the ECU info up in the left corner where the serial-number and map name is shown, still shows the original name "KM611EU0704501Map".

Is this just how it should be? I thought it should change to something about the new map name?
Maybe the original map name is "connected" to the original ECU or?

/Fredrik

Chefket

2016-06-03 10:05:00 UTC

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bazz21

2016-06-04 01:54:00 UTC

a custom map is allways best but if u cant then get the 07 eu akra smoothened map . but put a marble in the sas and turn it of with tune ecu ,same with o2 censors, then enjoy cheers bazz

DukeNukem999

2016-06-05 21:51:00 UTC

Downloaded the "KTM 990 SuperDuke 07-10 model years with Evolution Titanium exhaust EU" Map to the ECU (KM611EU0704530Map.hex)
Seems to be better in general (but not as smooth down low when cold).
Will try it for a week and then try the "07-08_EU_SD_Akra_Map_Smoothened.hex" map. After that will try the file08_SD_GuysCustom_most_suited_to_aftermarket_air_filter_not_airbox_.hex" map.
It was running pretty good in general but felt like it had a flat spot about 6K rpm.

D1rkola

2016-07-28 08:22:00 UTC

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DukeNukem999

2016-07-29 05:35:00 UTC

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D1rkola

2016-07-29 07:23:00 UTC

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DukeNukem999

2016-08-01 01:45:00 UTC

Well so far it seems pretty good. Throttle is less snatchy for sure

billinom8s

2016-08-02 19:29:00 UTC

i had my 990 done using this method.
GPR cans
k&n air filter

bang on, no snatchy low end, pulls like a train and even got more miles from the tank.

DukeNukem999

2016-08-03 05:51:00 UTC

Same here in regards to better fuel economy !....I went from 14-14.5km/L to 13km/L when I tried the previous map (SuperDuke 07-10 model years with Evolution Titanium exhaust EU" (KM611EU0704530Map.hex)

DukeNukem999

2016-08-04 00:40:00 UTC

Okay so I gained back 1km/L since remapping.
Back to 14km/L after downloading "07-08_EU_SD_Akra_Map_Smoothened.hex" map". Mostly commuting to work and back.
For reference, I was getting 14.5-15km/L with stock OEM exhausts.

RichUK

2016-10-31 13:37:00 UTC

I've just uploaded my custom map from my PCIII to my PC so I now have a .djm file on my harddrive, and can view it with the PC software.

Is it possible to use Tune ECU to adjust my ECU's own map to be the same as what is it now with the PCIII adapting it (basically eliminating the PCIII)?
I have read the start of this thread but there was a suggestion it's not easy to do and I'm hoping to avoid having to read through all 81 pages to find the answer.

Many thanks, Rich.

larryf8

2016-12-07 16:23:00 UTC

Hi guys, been out of discussion in a long time. Rusty on using my tuneecu after quite a while. Can someone help me get the best map or hexfile for my '06 ktm sd990? akra slip ons, dna air filter, sas plugged and 02 sensors removed and installed resistors. thank you in advance.

orangeracer

2016-12-16 03:37:00 UTC

Trying to get a TuneECU from KTMTwins to connect but no success. For background, 2007 990SD, Rotty intake, Akra open ti exhaust, all emissions scuttled/blocked off. I'm using a JD Jetting tuner, (currently disconnected for the TuneECU), which got me 85% of the way there but it idles high (2k+ in gear) and has a small flat spot off idle. From reading here and elsewhere I'm thinking that TuneECU will help tweak the throttle/tps to help with the idle. The drivers installed fine and Windows sees the usb connection ok. No matter what sequence I use though, the software won't connect. I've tried 2 different computers/os, (xp & 7), pulling the headlight fuse, battery on tender, profanity, alcohol/nicotine, chicken's blood, et. al. to no avail.

The JD Jetting tuner works by adjusting the fuel flow btw, (made it actually quite good except for the idle). If I finally connect and get the idle sorted, would I still want to flash in a map through TuneECU and use the JD tuner as well? Thanks for any tips as always.

orangeracer

2016-12-19 16:57:00 UTC

I finally thought to check the continuity on the adapter cable that fits to the the bike wiring harness. It failed miserably. I took the plug apart and discovered that all three wire leads had been attached to the pins without stripping the insulation...

After stripping the wire ends and soldering them to the pins, I hooked it all up, bingo the light turned on the blue box and TuneECU connected at last! I saved my stock map and took a look at the tests, etc. By running the cable test it seemed to drop the idle a little bit, will be checking with JD today to see what they recommend, stay tuned... pun intended...

46doohanok

2017-01-05 07:48:00 UTC

Get an engine tuner to build you a custom map on a dyno personally detailed just for your bike it makes the ultimate difference

DukeNukem999

2017-01-06 01:23:00 UTC

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orangeracer

2017-01-13 04:44:00 UTC

Small update concerning the JD tuner + ECU. I got the error codes cleared, (from pulling off the emissions stuff), eventually went with a stock Akra map. From the JD tuner side just fattened up the zones a bit and running like a raped ape....

jambox

2017-01-26 09:53:00 UTC

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SPEIRMOOR

2017-04-11 09:41:00 UTC

Any one got a smoothend map for stock 08 sd ?

Link at the top is dead

Aphex

2017-04-13 12:33:00 UTC

Answer me this.
Bike is awesome except for the jerkiness.Yesterday I downloaded the smoothened map and all is well. Bike is great now at low speed and still has the brute power on top.
Bike also has a PowerCommander which I never removed so will that ever be a problem down the road?

No. 47

2017-05-07 07:55:00 UTC

2017-07-11 03:42:00 UTC

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Mr_Trecolareco

2017-07-11 05:19:00 UTC

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Mr_Trecolareco

2018-02-20 12:01:00 UTC

990

battleshaft

2018-02-20 16:19:00 UTC

I don't have dyno with the 05' 990 SD original or with just akrapovic round cans+akrapovic mapping. But looking around with good mapping I suppose just exhaust+akrapovic map should do around 110/115 max?

Eacho bike and dyno are a little different so hard to say. But heres what my final dyno was with motohooligan airbox, no butterflies and no SAS, rc8 intake trumpets and costum mapping.

nampus

2018-05-01 23:03:00 UTC

Can any suggest a map for me? I have an 06 SD with Akrapovic pipes, stock airbox and butterflies still installed but SAS removed and block off plates installed, running the smoothened map currently and after a 15 minute reset it will seem OK but some time down the line things will start to feel rough again for some reason.

Should I remove butterflies? Perhaps reset TPS (I've not done this before). By the seat of the pants, it feels fine in higher RPM but low RPM performance it's fairly rough, even after a TB balance using a carbtune tool.

Thanks in advance!

battleshaft

2018-05-25 14:16:00 UTC

Hello all,
I currently have round Akras on my ’11 SD, running the KTM Akra map. I’m about to install a Motohooligan Motobox and SAS block-off kit and wondered if there are any maps available for Tune ECU that accommodate these mods, as don’t want it to end up running too lean with the new airbox.
I am of course planning on dyno + custom remap at some point, but was looking for a short term solution/guidance for inevitable riding in between!
Cheers

Sarasota_Steve

2018-05-25 16:10:00 UTC

The akra maps are rich enough to be run with the motobox.
Best is always to get it properly set up on the Dyno. But for short term the akra map should be fine, you could always do a single run on the nearest Dyno, to check if it's not running lean.

Tyler Durden

2018-05-25 17:23:00 UTC

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Sarasota_Steve

2018-05-30 07:55:00 UTC

Thanks chaps!